Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-30 Thread Yann Jautard
I'm not sure what remains after drying WD40 is oil, because it doesn't look greasy. Just dry. And doesnt leave marks on clothes like oil does. But also protects less efficiently than pure oil. - Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com a écrit : WD-40 is mostly composed of a solvent that

Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-30 Thread Eric Keller
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Yann Jautard brico...@free.fr wrote: I'm not sure what remains after drying WD40 is oil, because it doesn't look greasy. Just dry. And doesnt leave marks on clothes like oil does. But also protects less efficiently than pure oil. My experience as a bike

Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-30 Thread Dave
Has anyone ever tried Penetrol? It is a paint additive for oil based paints and it claims to be an effective rust preventer. I haven't tried it. An old woodworker I once new swore by the use of paraffin mixed into kerosene. You heat up some kerosene in a pan and dissolve paraffin wax into

Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-29 Thread yann jautard
Le 27/12/2010 02:22, Kirk Wallace a écrit : The rain came and put a 1/8 of water across the whole shop, then sunny the next day and turned the shop into a sauna on freezing cold steel. Only the few cruddy parts of my machines escaped the rust. I'm _really_ pissed with mother nature right now,

Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-29 Thread Igor Chudov
There are some rust preventative sprays that 1) adhere to surfaces 2) displace water 3) do not become sticky over time. Examples include LPS-2. I buy it by the gallon and put in spray bottles. i On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 7:00 AM, yann jautard brico...@free.fr wrote: Le 27/12/2010 02:22, Kirk

Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-29 Thread yann jautard
WD40 is said to be such a product. I buy it by 5liters cans and use it also in spray bottle. Old bottle from window cleaner is very convenient :) Le 29/12/2010 14:10, Igor Chudov a écrit : There are some rust preventative sprays that 1) adhere to surfaces 2) displace water 3) do not become

Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-29 Thread Igor Chudov
WD-40 is mostly composed of a solvent that evaporates, leaving a thin layer of oil. I am not sure why one would want to pay for solvent, for rustproofing purposes, so I prefer buying straight sprayable oil. i On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 8:30 AM, yann jautard brico...@free.fr wrote: WD40 is said

Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-29 Thread Jon Elson
Igor Chudov wrote: There are some rust preventative sprays that 1) adhere to surfaces 2) displace water 3) do not become sticky over time. Examples include LPS-2. I buy it by the gallon and put in spray bottles. I use LPS-1. You used to be able to get it in a trigger pump spray bottle,

Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-29 Thread Igor Chudov
For me, flood coolant itself is a rust preventative. I never had anything rust that was sprayed with coolant. The only minus of it as a rust preventative is that it dries. i -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters

Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-29 Thread Karl Schmidt
Most of the cutting fluids are rust preventing - I put a bit of the concentrate on a rag and wipe things down - don't get any rust. Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com

Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-28 Thread Mark Wendt
On 12/26/2010 08:22 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: The rain came and put a 1/8 of water across the whole shop, then sunny the next day and turned the shop into a sauna on freezing cold steel. Only the few cruddy parts of my machines escaped the rust. I'm _really_ pissed with mother nature right now,

Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-27 Thread John Thornton
That can be really frustrating when you work so hard to keep your machines clean and they rust up on you. I added some water to my coolant by just pouring it into the mill one evening and didn't run the coolant pump after and in the morning I had a light coat of rust on my vise and table...

Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-27 Thread Igor Chudov
Sorry to hear this., To me, rust is a constant worry. I do a few things. 1) I keep everything that can be oiled, oiled. 2) I run a room heater to keep things well above the dew point. I had a disaster once, where after very cold weather, my garage was freezing cold. Then one day the temp shot

Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-27 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 17:22 -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: The rain came and put a 1/8 of water across the whole shop, then sunny the next day and turned the shop into a sauna on freezing cold steel. Only the few cruddy parts of my machines escaped the rust. I'm _really_ pissed with mother nature

Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-27 Thread Roland Jollivet
You can make yourself a de-humidifier with any old refrigeration system. A friend used a chilled-water-dispenser to keep his dungeon dry. Worked quite well. Let the cooling coil snow up, and turn off at intervals to let the ice melt and drain into a drum. You don't even have to worry about

Re: [Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-27 Thread Don Stanley
Hi Kirk; Most small dehumidifiers only run when the humidity is above the the Dryness Control setting. Mine runs a lot during the summer (high humidity season) and almost never otherwise; except for warm driving rains (through the Doors). The small Whirlpool unit is drying a 4000 sq ft basement