Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem CD's are bootable Harddrive partitioned with hal91 fdisk -l and dmesg | grep hdc messages

2009-04-22 Thread Jon Elson
Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: > > Can anyone shed any light on why I'm getting these "tray open..." messages, > Is there any possibility you have the IDE cables swapped, and the CD is on IDE1 and the hard drive on IDE2? Some BIOS's may be able to boot an existing OS like that, but may be un

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem CD's are bootable Harddrive partitioned with hal91 fdisk -l and dmesg | grep hdc messages

2009-04-22 Thread Rafael Skodlar
Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: > Hi Stuart, > > I don't mind the redundancy. Sometimes things are tried twice (or more) in > order to get them right once. :-) > > Machine B will not boot from the CD at all. hal91 on floppy will boot every > time from the floppy. hal91 files on a CD will no

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem CD's are bootable Harddrive partitioned with hal91 fdisk -l and dmesg | grep hdc messages

2009-04-22 Thread Dave Engvall
Maybe just as easy(?). Remove the hard drive from the machine that won't (isn't) booting the CD and install it in the box that can come up under 'Live'. Go thru the installation process and then move the disk back to the other machine. There is a possible issue here and that is getting X window

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem CD's are bootable Harddrive partitioned with hal91 fdisk -l and dmesg | grep hdc messages

2009-04-22 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Jim, One more redundant question. When you boot MachineA from the CD are you then running Linux? If so is it possible to remove the CD from MachineA and put it into MachineB? thanks Stuart -- you can lead a person to knowledge but you cannot make him think

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem CD's are bootable Harddrive partitioned with hal91 fdisk -l and dmesg | grep hdc messages

2009-04-22 Thread Jim Fleig - CNC Services
und the "dd" command, and messages disappears. Nice to have in muLinux. I am using hal91 instead of muLinux but will the commands work the same? Thanks for your interest and help. Have a good day, Jim - Original Message - From: "Stuart Stevenson" To: "Enhanced Machi

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-22 Thread Marty Swartz
Hm. The BIOS in most motherboards I have used (Dell, Intel, Nvida, Via) will allow you to SPECIFY the order in which boot devices will be attempted. In my daily non-EMC context, I usually set this to Floppy first, CD second, HDD third. When setting up EMC this allows me to boot the LiveCD to do wh

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem CD's are bootable Hard drive partitioned with hal91 fdisk -l and dmesg | grep hdc messages

2009-04-21 Thread Stuart Stevenson
ready > hdc : tray open > [hal91 -=- /] _ > > Are there other commands that would provide useful information? > > Thanks for your questions and advice. > > Hopefully this is closer to working. > > Have a good night, > > Jim > > > ----- Original Message - &g

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-21 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 08:56 -0700, Rafael Skodlar wrote: ... snip > PC is going to bootup from CD regardless of what's on the hard drive so > all that playing with partitions won't make a difference if drive is not > recognized. >From my experience, I have had trouble with booting new Linux instal

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem CD's are bootable Hard drive partitioned with hal91 fdisk -l and dmesg | grep hdc messages

2009-04-21 Thread Jim Fleig - CNC Services
mands that would provide useful information? Thanks for your questions and advice. Hopefully this is closer to working. Have a good night, Jim - Original Message - From: "Stuart Stevenson" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem Boot accomplished with hal91 Linux bootable floppy

2009-04-21 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Jim, Have you booted the CD in another computer? If not, you need to be able to boot the CD. When you are able to boot the CD then the installation process will identify the hard drive and partition it for you. It will do an automatically generated configuration or you can do a manual configurat

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem fdisk -l results

2009-04-21 Thread Jim Fleig - CNC Services
fdisk -l Enter displays the following: The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 1027. This is larger than 1024, and may cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO) 2) booting and paritioning software form other OSs (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) Segmentation f

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem Boot accomplished with hal91 Linux bootable floppy

2009-04-21 Thread Jim Fleig - CNC Services
The tower has booted! Thank you for all of the replies. I read (but did not understand) all of them. It seemed to make sense to me to focus on trying to boot with a floppy because the DBAN floppy would boot every time. It took a long time to find and then a couple of attempts to get hal91 to

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-21 Thread Jim Coleman
has it yet been determined that the cd is in fact working and bootable? I've seen people download the iso with winrar or a similar compression program installed, see the icon and open and extract the files to a folder, then burn the dir to a cd. autorun works, but no bootability. another issue th

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-21 Thread Ian W. Wright
Jon wrote:- <> That was really my intention with the suggestion I made - boot from a utility floppy and partition the hard drive so that it won't wait around looking for partitions - plus, you at least have the reassurance that you are doing something positive!! We know from Jim's original pos

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-21 Thread Rafael Skodlar
Jon Elson wrote: > Rafael Skodlar wrote: >> computers DO NOT SEE drives because of the partition. BIOS code knows >> nothing about the partitions when it makes PC send low level commands to >> hard drive: reset, read disk configuration (heads, cyl, sec/track), >> seek, read raw sectors, transfer th

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-21 Thread Jon Elson
Rafael Skodlar wrote: > computers DO NOT SEE drives because of the partition. BIOS code knows > nothing about the partitions when it makes PC send low level commands to > hard drive: reset, read disk configuration (heads, cyl, sec/track), > seek, read raw sectors, transfer that data to memory, etc.

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-21 Thread Rafael Skodlar
Ian W. Wright wrote: > Jim, > > As you have probably worked out by now, your problems stem > from the fact that DBan erases everything on the hard drive > including the partition tables which are the index to the > 'filing cabinet'. Your easiest way to get going again would > be to start by cr

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-21 Thread Ian W. Wright
Jim, As you have probably worked out by now, your problems stem from the fact that DBan erases everything on the hard drive including the partition tables which are the index to the 'filing cabinet'. Your easiest way to get going again would be to start by creating a new primary partition of a

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-20 Thread Rafael Skodlar
BRIAN GLACKIN wrote: > To all, > > Jim, >> this is way beyond EMC support ... You need seek help for BASIC PC setup >> elsewhere. However > > > While this is true, many of the people coming to EMC are from a different > planet (windoze) and learning to walk in a new land takes time and > patien

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-20 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
To all, Jim, > > this is way beyond EMC support ... You need seek help for BASIC PC setup > elsewhere. However While this is true, many of the people coming to EMC are from a different planet (windoze) and learning to walk in a new land takes time and patience. This very stumbling block has tr

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-20 Thread Stuart Stevenson
--- Original Message - > From: "Rafael Skodlar" > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 1:54 PM > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem > > >> Jim, >> >> this is way beyond EMC support ... You ne

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-20 Thread Jim Fleig - CNC Services
- From: "Rafael Skodlar" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem > Jim, > > this is way beyond EMC support ... You need seek help for BASIC PC setup > elsewhere. Howe

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-20 Thread Rafael Skodlar
Jim, this is way beyond EMC support ... You need seek help for BASIC PC setup elsewhere. However Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: > Hi Ian, > > Thank you for the reply. > > The boot sequence was set to CDROM, A, C. > > I downloaded Ranish, unzipped and copied to a floppy. The boot sequence was

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-20 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Jim, Since it will boot from a floppy at least it is not dead. You might try setting the boot sequence (again) so CDROM is first; nothing after that does you any good. If you have a known good bootable CD then try that. I have had trouble with some CD drives. Swapping drives often fixes things.

Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem

2009-04-20 Thread Jim Fleig - CNC Services
Hi Ian, Thank you for the reply. The boot sequence was set to CDROM, A, C. I downloaded Ranish, unzipped and copied to a floppy. The boot sequence was changed to A, C, SCSI (no A, C, CDROM choice). When the computer is turned on the boot screen lists Pri. Master Disk: LBA, UDMA 66, 8455MB, P