Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-08 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 07.05.15 09:35, Gene Heskett wrote: Just one question: Since I know ext4 will fry the SSD eventually, what filesystem are you using with them? Some useful conclusions from firsthand experience are outlined here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives#Advantages_over_HDDs

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/07/2015 11:11 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: Most people will never come anywhere close to using up the write lifetime of an SSD, but how much use one has had is a consideration if you're buying a used one. Never, ever, buy a used SSD! Jon

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 May 2015 18:44:32 Dave Cole wrote: On 5/6/2015 3:57 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 06 May 2015 14:17:23 Dave Cole wrote: Hand editing grub is supposed to be a no-no. I have no idea why. I used a graphical grub editor the last time I got in trouble with grub and

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-07 Thread Dave Cole
You asked about SSD drives as replacement for rotating disks. I've been using these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A35X6GM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8psc=1 I've had some installed now for several years on commercial/industrial machine that run daily and have yet to have a

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-07 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 5/7/2015 6:57 AM, Dave Cole wrote: You asked about SSD drives as replacement for rotating disks. I've been using these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A35X6GM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8psc=1 I've had some installed now for several years on commercial/industrial machine

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 07 May 2015 08:51:41 Dave Cole wrote: Gene, I'm sure I used it for Debian. Look here at the second entry for a link to a Wheezy build: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16t=117971 The key line at that link: Or we have Wheezy-compatible packages, built against the

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-07 Thread Dave Cole
Just running ext4.Yes, they will die eventually but apparently the write leveling software in the drives pushes that out many years. That drive I quoted isn't the fastest but it is fast enough and they seem rock solid reliable. An interesting article on SSDs and Linux.Note that they

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 07 May 2015 08:57:24 Dave Cole wrote: You asked about SSD drives as replacement for rotating disks. I've been using these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A35X6GM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_ s00?ie=UTF8psc=1 One, with adaptor ordered. After this, I do NOT trust this 2T Toshiba

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 07 May 2015 10:22:07 Dave Cole wrote: Just running ext4.Yes, they will die eventually but apparently the write leveling software in the drives pushes that out many years. That drive I quoted isn't the fastest but it is fast enough and they seem rock solid reliable. I would

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 May 2015 at 13:57, Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com wrote: You asked about SSD drives as replacement for rotating disks. I've been using these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A35X6GM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8psc=1 I have been using these:

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-07 Thread Dave Cole
Gene, I'm sure I used it for Debian. Look here at the second entry for a link to a Wheezy build: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16t=117971 The key line at that link: Or we have Wheezy-compatible packages, built against the Debian libraries, in the MEPIS community repositories: Or

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-06 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 04.05.15 10:06, Gene Heskett wrote: I did make those changes to /etc/default/grub: GRUB_DEFAULT=0 GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=10 #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2 /dev/null || echo Debian` GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= Gene,

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 May 2015 05:43:22 Erik Christiansen wrote: On 04.05.15 10:06, Gene Heskett wrote: I did make those changes to /etc/default/grub: GRUB_DEFAULT=0 GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=10 #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2 /dev/null ||

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 May 2015 09:52:48 Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 06 May 2015 05:43:22 Erik Christiansen wrote: Apropos the useless manpages; there are a couple of those about, deliberately left uninformative by one or two politicised developer groups who wish to see info replace man.

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-06 Thread Dave Cole
On 5/6/2015 3:57 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 06 May 2015 14:17:23 Dave Cole wrote: Hand editing grub is supposed to be a no-no. I have no idea why. I used a graphical grub editor the last time I got in trouble with grub and that worked fine - no drama. Dave Do you recall the

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 May 2015 at 16:34, Erik Christiansen dva...@internode.on.net wrote: The discussion has also slipped your memory, it seems. Google too. It doesn't want to give hits in list archives any more, apparently, because neither the above subject line, nor Message-ID: 4d9e8496.9070...@erols.com

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 May 2015 11:34:02 Erik Christiansen wrote: On 06.05.15 09:52, Gene Heskett wrote: I do not know if the isolcpus=1 command was in the old /boot/grub/grub.cfg, but after running update-grub, its gone! Gene, Oops - I'd forgotten our Beating Grub2 into submission discussion

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 May 2015 14:17:23 Dave Cole wrote: Hand editing grub is supposed to be a no-no. I have no idea why. I used a graphical grub editor the last time I got in trouble with grub and that worked fine - no drama. Dave Do you recall the name of it at this late date? Thanks Dave.

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 May 2015 13:21:35 Erik Christiansen wrote: On 06.05.15 12:01, Gene Heskett wrote: So I have added it manually to /boot/grub/grub.cfg on the normal, default=0 entry. I did that only to the normal boot, not to the recovery entry. And now the drive refuses to e2fsck at

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-06 Thread Dave Cole
Hand editing grub is supposed to be a no-no. I have no idea why. I used a graphical grub editor the last time I got in trouble with grub and that worked fine - no drama. Dave On 5/6/2015 1:21 PM, Erik Christiansen wrote: On 06.05.15 12:01, Gene Heskett wrote: So I have added it manually to

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-06 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 06.05.15 12:01, Gene Heskett wrote: So I have added it manually to /boot/grub/grub.cfg on the normal, default=0 entry. I did that only to the normal boot, not to the recovery entry. And now the drive refuses to e2fsck at either the default superblock or the suggested -b 8193 option

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-06 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 06.05.15 09:52, Gene Heskett wrote: I do not know if the isolcpus=1 command was in the old /boot/grub/grub.cfg, but after running update-grub, its gone! Gene, Oops - I'd forgotten our Beating Grub2 into submission discussion in 2011, and been thinking in terms of the general case, where

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 May 2015 10:17:58 Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 06 May 2015 09:52:48 Gene Heskett wrote: On further checking, and I've no clue why its working on the milling machines install, and not on the lathe machines install. Same install cd in both cases. The file 07_rtai is present

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-06 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 06.05.15 11:00, Gene Heskett wrote: Troubleshooting tips gleefully checked out. I think you're well ahead of the pack now. (You're leaving me behind on the straight.) Good luck with the possible fix. Erik -- One

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 May 2015 11:00:27 Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 06 May 2015 10:17:58 Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 06 May 2015 09:52:48 Gene Heskett wrote: On further checking, and I've no clue why its working on the milling machines install, and not on the lathe machines install.

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-04 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 03.05.15 20:51, Gene Heskett wrote: So, ok, I'll byte. What is the magic keyboard incantation that will allow the grub boot menu to be seen? It goes sailing right on by it. It's a while since I stuffed around with grub, but info grub says that it will boot immediately without displaying

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 04 May 2015 05:04:04 Erik Christiansen wrote: On 03.05.15 20:51, Gene Heskett wrote: So, ok, I'll byte. What is the magic keyboard incantation that will allow the grub boot menu to be seen? It goes sailing right on by it. It's a while since I stuffed around with grub, but info

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: There was GRUB_TIMEOUT = 0, GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=10, and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true in that file. GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 now, and the last line I'll consult the grub man pages on. Except exactly none of this stuff is

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 04 May 2015 08:17:52 Mark Wendt wrote: On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: There was GRUB_TIMEOUT = 0, GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=10, and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true in that file. GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 now, and the last line I'll consult the grub man

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Gene, At the top of the /etc/default/grub file, in the comments area, I found this: info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' Gave me a pretty thorough description of the parameters in the file. Mark Not for

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 04 May 2015 08:57:39 Mark Wendt wrote: On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Gene, At the top of the /etc/default/grub file, in the comments area, I found this: info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' Gave me a pretty thorough

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: I did make those changes to /etc/default/grub: GRUB_DEFAULT=0 GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=10 #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2 /dev/null || echo Debian`

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-04 Thread andy pugh
On 4 May 2015 at 15:06, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: I have now tried all the tricks to get the grub menu that have been mentioned here, including holding down the right shift key while booting from the original install cd for the ubu 10.04-4 LTS version. I just restarted my Live-CD

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 04 May 2015 10:22:15 Mark Wendt wrote: On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: I did make those changes to /etc/default/grub: GRUB_DEFAULT=0 GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=10 #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 04 May 2015 10:24:28 andy pugh wrote: On 4 May 2015 at 15:06, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: I have now tried all the tricks to get the grub menu that have been mentioned here, including holding down the right shift key while booting from the original install cd for the ubu

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-04 Thread Kyle Kerr
A bit off topic, but, I noticed you, Gene, retyped the same command after sudo. I'm unsure when it was added, but, you might try sudo !! to rerun a command as root that you previously tried running as a normal user. On May 4, 2015 11:04 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Monday 04 May

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 May 2015 20:51:56 Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 02 May 2015 19:58:00 Gene Heskett wrote: Chris Radek wanted me to run memtest+ on that box overnight. I just looked at /boot/grun/grub.cfg and the choice does exest in that file. And I'm tired s/grun/grub So, ok, I'll byte.

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 02 May 2015 19:58:00 Gene Heskett wrote: Chris Radek wanted me to run memtest+ on that box overnight. I just looked at /boot/grun/grub.cfg and the choice does exest in that file. So, ok, I'll byte. What is the magic keyboard incantation that will allow the grub boot menu to be

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 02 May 2015 12:11:29 Gene Heskett wrote: One thing I noted today was that when I put it all back together with the new 1 hp motor, I neglected to run a solid ground from the lathes frame to someplace on the star ground in the breakout and motor driver box. So I hung a light weight