Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2014-02-25 Thread Billy Huddleston
I've been looking ALL over for this plugin.. Did you find it Richard ? On 11/14/2013 02:04 PM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: Where can I find halio plugin? Richard -- DreamFactory - Open Source REST JSON Services for

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2014-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 25 February 2014 16:58:44 Billy Huddleston did opine: I've been looking ALL over for this plugin.. Did you find it Richard ? On 11/14/2013 02:04 PM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: Where can I find halio plugin? Richard I have it on one or both of my machines. ATM IIRC I did a

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2014-02-25 Thread Billy Huddleston
http://psha.org.ru/git/ is the only site I've found the camview stuff on.. but, not sure where the halio is.. I found a halio.c file here.. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Adding_Digital_Zoom_To_Camview-Emc No instructions on how to compile it.. On 02/25/2014 05:07 PM, Gene Heskett

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2014-02-25 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 11/07/2013 03:15 AM, Russell Brown wrote: I've been playing around with camview and a little 10mm endoscope type USB camera to see if I could rig such a thing up as an edge finder permanently mounted my mill's head. If you are having trouble finding camview, I have had some success using

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2014-02-25 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Interesting Mr Wallace, could you post some example files for us that are slow on the uptake please :) On 2014-02-26 02:40, Kirk Wallace wrote: On 11/07/2013 03:15 AM, Russell Brown wrote: I've been playing around with camview and a little 10mm endoscope type USB camera to see if I could rig

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-14 Thread Les Newell
Hi Gene, I got one of those short fat microscopes and it was really rubbish. The focusing mechanism also moved the lens side to side slightly and it wouldn't hold focus for more than a few seconds. It ended up in the bin. Les I looked at that one rather hungrily Les, but lost interest when I

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 14 November 2013 06:49:47 Les Newell did opine: Hi Gene, I got one of those short fat microscopes and it was really rubbish. The focusing mechanism also moved the lens side to side slightly and it wouldn't hold focus for more than a few seconds. It ended up in the bin. Les

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 14 November 2013 kqt4a...@gmail.com did write: On Wed, 13 Nov 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 13 November 2013 kqt4a...@gmail.com did write: After all this knocking about I have this that works Remove all camunits/camview related that you compiles from source Install

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-14 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 11/13/2013 02:11 AM, Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE wrote: Just a quick note in reply to my post that Hauppauge provides those recent cards: http://www.hauppauge.com/site/webstore2/webstore_impactvcb.asp?product=impactvcb The card has 3 to 4 input sources and digitalization is done in

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-14 Thread kqt4at5v
Where can I find halio plugin? Richard -- DreamFactory - Open Source REST JSON Services for HTML5 Native Apps OAuth, Users, Roles, SQL, NoSQL, BLOB Storage and External API Access Free app hosting. Or install the open

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-14 Thread David Armstrong
On 14/11/13 19:04, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: Where can I find halio plugin? Richard -- DreamFactory - Open Source REST JSON Services for HTML5 Native Apps OAuth, Users, Roles, SQL, NoSQL, BLOB Storage and External

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-14 Thread kqt4at5v
On Thu, 14 Nov 2013, David Armstrong wrote: On 14/11/13 19:04, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: Where can I find halio plugin? sent you email Richard Got it If I put halio.so in /usr/lib/camunits linuxcnc works but camview fails with RTAPI: ERROR: could not open shared memory (errno=2)

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 14 November 2013 15:42:38 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: Where can I find halio plugin? Richard I did some housecleaning so all I have left is the .so, but ISTR I got it from one of the tarballs I pulled from the russian site. But, today I can find no mention of it and google

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-13 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE
So I just bought an endoscope camera off ebay for $22. Its about the size of a AAA battery, 2 meter usb cord, self illuminating 640x480, 8 bit color, should be many times faster in its imaging output with the reduced amount of data to handle. Ought to be here by the 18th. Analog

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-13 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE
Just a quick note in reply to my post that Hauppauge provides those recent cards: http://www.hauppauge.com/site/webstore2/webstore_impactvcb.asp?product=impactvcb The card has 3 to 4 input sources and digitalization is done in hardware, according to product description == The digitizing of the

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-13 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: So I just bought an endoscope camera off ebay for $22. Its about the size of a AAA battery, 2 meter usb cord, self illuminating 640x480, 8 bit color, should be many times faster in its imaging output with the reduced

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 13 November 2013 13:34:54 Mark Wendt did opine: On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: So I just bought an endoscope camera off ebay for $22. Its about the size of a AAA battery, 2 meter usb cord, self illuminating 640x480, 8 bit color, should

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-13 Thread Les Newell
I haven't had a huge amount of success with those endoscopes. They are fixed focus and the one I had only gave about 15 FPS. The Supereyes microscopes like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Supereyes-200x-Portable-Digital-USB-Microscope-Enodscope-Video-Camera-LED-TE01-/190884342766 work quite

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 13 November 2013 14:54:44 Les Newell did opine: I haven't had a huge amount of success with those endoscopes. They are fixed focus and the one I had only gave about 15 FPS. The Supereyes microscopes like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Supereyes-200x-Portable-Digital-USB-Microscop

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-13 Thread andy pugh
On 13 November 2013 20:10, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: My toy mill has a huge box on top of the spindle that hangs out so far all the way around, so there is not room for a device 5 (123mm) long without its hanging well below the tool itself. You could use a mirror. -- atp If you

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 13 November 2013 18:23:26 andy pugh did opine: On 13 November 2013 20:10, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: My toy mill has a huge box on top of the spindle that hangs out so far all the way around, so there is not room for a device 5 (123mm) long without its hanging well

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-12 Thread kqt4at5v
On Fri, 8 Nov 2013, David Armstrong wrote: On 08/11/13 19:13, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 08 November 2013 14:11:19 David Armstrong did opine: And it did NOT install convert_crop.so when I did the make install. And since its been a decade since I actually carved new C code, I'm not sure I

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 12 November 2013 12:24:10 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On Fri, 8 Nov 2013, David Armstrong wrote: On 08/11/13 19:13, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 08 November 2013 14:11:19 David Armstrong did opine: And it did NOT install convert_crop.so when I did the make install. And

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-12 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 12:24:10 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On Fri, 8 Nov 2013, David Armstrong wrote: On 08/11/13 19:13, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 08 November 2013 14:11:19 David Armstrong did opine: And it did NOT install convert_crop.so

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-12 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 12.11.2013 um 20:10 schrieb kqt4a...@gmail.com: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 12:24:10 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On Fri, 8 Nov 2013, David Armstrong wrote: On 08/11/13 19:13, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 08 November 2013 14:11:19 David

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 12 November 2013 14:35:24 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 12:24:10 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On Fri, 8 Nov 2013, David Armstrong wrote: On 08/11/13 19:13, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 08 November 2013

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-12 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Michael Haberler wrote: Am 12.11.2013 um 20:10 schrieb kqt4a...@gmail.com: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 12:24:10 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On Fri, 8 Nov 2013, David Armstrong wrote: On 08/11/13 19:13, Gene Heskett wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-12 Thread Billy Huddleston
Lots of talk on this subject.. But I never really saw anything on a actual camera that would be good for this. I have a older Microsoft Live Camera HD ( Wide Angle F/2.0 HD Lens, 720p HD 30 FPS Autofocus Widescreen) Was for a robot project. Was going to get 2 of them to make Stereo Eyes for

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-12 Thread Michael Haberler
The file exist $ ls -l /usr/include/libv4l2.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4679 Nov 17 2009 /usr/include/libv4l2.h Go figure. I just tried on a 10.04 (I did this before, so I have the prerequisite packages installed): git clone git://psha.org.ru/psha/camunits.git cd camunits/

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 12 November 2013 14:57:35 Michael Haberler did opine: Am 12.11.2013 um 20:10 schrieb kqt4a...@gmail.com: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 12:24:10 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On Fri, 8 Nov 2013, David Armstrong wrote: On 08/11/13 19:13,

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 12 November 2013 15:20:01 Michael Haberler did opine: The file exist $ ls -l /usr/include/libv4l2.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4679 Nov 17 2009 /usr/include/libv4l2.h Go figure. I just tried on a 10.04 (I did this before, so I have the prerequisite packages installed):

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-12 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 15:20:01 Michael Haberler did opine: The file exist $ ls -l /usr/include/libv4l2.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4679 Nov 17 2009 /usr/include/libv4l2.h Go figure. I just tried on a 10.04 (I did this before, so I have the

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 12 November 2013 15:35:31 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Michael Haberler wrote: The file exist $ ls -l /usr/include/libv4l2.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4679 Nov 17 2009 /usr/include/libv4l2.h Go figure. I just tried on a 10.04 (I did this before,

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-12 Thread billy
Have a link for i? On Nov 12, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 15:21:30 Billy Huddleston did opine: Lots of talk on this subject.. But I never really saw anything on a actual camera that would be good for this. I have a older Microsoft

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 12 November 2013 15:46:35 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 15:20:01 Michael Haberler did opine: The file exist $ ls -l /usr/include/libv4l2.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4679 Nov 17 2009 /usr/include/libv4l2.h

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 12 November 2013 16:25:31 bi...@ivdc.com did opine: Have a link for i? I assume you mean it? http://www.ebay.com/itm/400539856116 On Nov 12, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 15:21:30 Billy Huddleston did opine: Lots of talk

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-12 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 15:46:35 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 15:20:01 Michael Haberler did opine: The file exist $ ls -l /usr/include/libv4l2.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4679

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 12 November 2013 17:06:46 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 15:46:35 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 15:20:01 Michael Haberler did opine: The

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-12 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 17:06:46 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 15:46:35 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 12 November 2013 17:34:09 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 17:06:46 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 15:46:35 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-12 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 17:34:09 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 17:06:46 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 12 November 2013 19:39:09 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 17:34:09 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 17:06:46 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: On

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-08 Thread Russell Brown
Quoth Gene Heskett. However in camunits/0.0.37 tree there is a convert_crop.c that looks like a likely candidate. Is this the util you are referring to? PS, a make bails instantly in that camunits/0.0.37 subdir, seems that are include dependencies not supplied by 10.04.4 or in the tarball.

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-08 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 08.11.13 10:15, Russell Brown wrote: But quite what you do with convert_crop.so once it's copied to /usr/lib/camunits I don't know. From man ldconfig: EXAMPLES # /sbin/ldconfig -v will set up the correct links for the shared binaries and rebuild the cache.

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-08 Thread Russell Brown
Quoth Russell Brown. (yes it's bad form following up my own post. Sorry) But quite what you do with convert_crop.so once it's copied to /usr/lib/camunits I don't know. Aha! You stick it in the chain directly after the V4l2 bit and in camview (the standalone utility) you can move the slider

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-08 Thread Sven Wesley
2013/11/8 Russell Brown russ...@lls.lls.com Quoth Russell Brown. (yes it's bad form following up my own post. Sorry) But quite what you do with convert_crop.so once it's copied to /usr/lib/camunits I don't know. Aha! You stick it in the chain directly after the V4l2 bit and in

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 08 November 2013 11:12:59 Russell Brown did opine: Quoth Gene Heskett. However in camunits/0.0.37 tree there is a convert_crop.c that looks like a likely candidate. Is this the util you are referring to? PS, a make bails instantly in that camunits/0.0.37 subdir, seems

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-08 Thread Jon Elson
Russell Brown wrote: Cropping the image centre down to 110x82 pixels produces this: http://ruffle.me.uk/cnc-pics/snapshot2.png Oh MAN! This looks QUITE promising! I could easily see making an adaptor that puts it on a shank so it can go in a collet just like the old edge finder. Thanks

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-08 Thread David Armstrong
On 08/11/13 16:52, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 08 November 2013 11:12:59 Russell Brown did opine: Quoth Gene Heskett. However in camunits/0.0.37 tree there is a convert_crop.c that looks like a likely candidate. Is this the util you are referring to? PS, a make bails instantly in

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 08 November 2013 12:23:30 Russell Brown did opine: Quoth Russell Brown. (yes it's bad form following up my own post. Sorry) But quite what you do with convert_crop.so once it's copied to /usr/lib/camunits I don't know. Aha! You stick it in the chain directly after the V4l2

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-08 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 11/08/2013 11:02 AM, Jon Elson wrote: Russell Brown wrote: Cropping the image centre down to 110x82 pixels produces this: http://ruffle.me.uk/cnc-pics/snapshot2.png https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users but getting CV to understand what it was really looking at is

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 08 November 2013 13:40:57 Russell Brown did opine: Quoth Russell Brown. (yes it's bad form following up my own post. Sorry) But quite what you do with convert_crop.so once it's copied to /usr/lib/camunits I don't know. Aha! You stick it in the chain directly after the V4l2

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 08 November 2013 13:45:39 Sven Wesley did opine: 2013/11/8 Russell Brown russ...@lls.lls.com Quoth Russell Brown. (yes it's bad form following up my own post. Sorry) But quite what you do with convert_crop.so once it's copied to /usr/lib/camunits I don't know.

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 08 November 2013 14:03:59 Jon Elson did opine: Russell Brown wrote: Cropping the image centre down to 110x82 pixels produces this: http://ruffle.me.uk/cnc-pics/snapshot2.png Oh MAN! This looks QUITE promising! I could easily see making an adaptor that puts it on a shank so

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 08 November 2013 14:11:19 David Armstrong did opine: And it did NOT install convert_crop.so when I did the make install. And since its been a decade since I actually carved new C code, I'm not sure I am up to cleaning up this mess. convert_crop.c did not throw any errors,

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-08 Thread David Armstrong
On 08/11/13 19:13, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 08 November 2013 14:11:19 David Armstrong did opine: And it did NOT install convert_crop.so when I did the make install. And since its been a decade since I actually carved new C code, I'm not sure I am up to cleaning up this mess.

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-08 Thread Austin Epps
I had a similar problem while trying to put together a motion capture system last year. I ended up addressing it by replacing the stock lenses with S-mount (also known as M12) board lenses, and made new enclosures for the cameras out of layers of laser-cut acrylic. A captured 1/4-20 flange

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 08 November 2013 15:49:53 David Armstrong did opine: On 08/11/13 19:13, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 08 November 2013 14:11:19 David Armstrong did opine: And it did NOT install convert_crop.so when I did the make install. And since its been a decade since I actually carved new C

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-08 Thread Frederic RIBLE
Le 2013-11-08 13:16, Russell Brown a écrit : ... Now I just have to make a tweakable mount and try to figure out how I can persuade camview-emc to include the cropping slider in it's controls section within Axis so I can twiddle when it's being used for real. ... I have started a Wiki

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-07 Thread Sebastian Bachmann
The problem ist that the terms high magnification and depth of field does not fit well together. if you take a look at the equations for optical systems you see that there are lot of equations for DOF: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_of_field#DOF_formulas the problem is now if you need a

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 November 2013 11:15, Russell Brown russ...@lls.lls.com wrote: Has anyone found a USB camera with both a high magnification and a decent depth of field? Traditional travelling microscopes have long working distances (You can focus in things feet away).

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-07 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 11/07/2013 12:34 PM, Sebastian Bachmann wrote: The problem ist that the terms high magnification and depth of field does not fit well together. You can improve on the DOF if you use a very small apperture: a pin-hole. You will need a lot of light to image anything through a pin-hole and a

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-07 Thread Dave Caroline
And the minor but difficult to engineer, is the optical path parallel to the spindle axis Also look for the term telecentric lens, http://www.opto-engineering.com/resources/telecentric-lenses-tutorial Dave Caroline On 07/11/2013, Sebastian Bachmann m...@free-minds.net wrote: The problem ist

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-07 Thread Sebastian Bachmann
On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 12:48:04 +0100, Bertho Stultiens ber...@vagrearg.org wrote: On 11/07/2013 12:34 PM, Sebastian Bachmann wrote: The problem ist that the terms high magnification and depth of field does not fit well together. You can improve on the DOF if you use a very small apperture: a

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-07 Thread Ralph Stirling
A couple of months ago I spent a bit of time working on a camera based system for calibrating the position of a syringe needle in a LinuxCNC controlled bioprinter. I found a couple of USB microscopes I had on hand to work reasonably well. The depth of field was quite adequate for needles, but

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-07 Thread Kip Shaffer
This is a cool discussion, and inspires me to try something. Using the thin lens equation, 1/o + 1/i = 1/f, we can use a single convex lens as a 'transfer lens'. The 'real image' produced by this lens can be used just like the actual object, and can be inspected by the microsocpe. Since

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-07 Thread Russell Brown
Quoth Ralph Stirling. Are you planning on using crosshairs and eyeballing to determine your cutter length/diameter, Ummm... I was planning on using it by eye, with Camview for Linuxcnc (http://psha.org.ru/b/camview-emc.html - which generates a tab in Axis with the camera image + overlays) to

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-07 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 11/07/2013 03:15 AM, Russell Brown wrote: ... snip Has anyone found a USB camera with both a high magnification and a decent depth of field? (I've a feeling that these are mutually exclusive) or even one that can focus at a high resolution from a workable (~200mm?) distance? TIA In my

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-07 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/11/7 Russell Brown russ...@lls.lls.com Quoth Ralph Stirling. Are you planning on using crosshairs and eyeballing to determine your cutter length/diameter, Ummm... I was planning on using it by eye, with Camview for Linuxcnc (http://psha.org.ru/b/camview-emc.html - which generates

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-07 Thread Ralph Stirling
I somehow had tool offset in mind rather than work offset for some reason. Principles are similar though. -- Ralph Russell Brown russ...@lls.lls.com wrote: Quoth Ralph Stirling. Are you planning on using crosshairs and eyeballing to determine your cutter length/diameter, Ummm... I was

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-07 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/11/7 Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu I somehow had tool offset in mind rather than work offset for some reason. Principles are similar though. Take a look at Pavel's page: http://psha.org.ru/b/camview-emc.html Note that checkbox that says G43 H99 - it already is created so

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 07 November 2013 12:11:03 Russell Brown did opine: I've been playing around with camview and a little 10mm endoscope type USB camera to see if I could rig such a thing up as an edge finder permanently mounted my mill's head. That's OK but you have to get very very close to the

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-07 Thread Frederic RIBLE
Le 2013-11-07 19:04, Gene Heskett a écrit : ... If you find a workable answer, I am all ears. Cheers, Gene I have built a fix mount on Y axis for my webcam with a custom ball joint for fine orientation along the Z axis. You can find a description here: http://blog.f1oat.org/tag/hd5000/

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-07 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
I took the lens assembly from a small broken video camera and stuck the sensor from a usb cam to the end of it. The sensor had to be mounted about 2cm further back to allow for close up shots. The lens has 2 small stepper motors to adjust the 2 lenses. In version 1, I damaged the stepper motors

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-07 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
The only problem is that it does not work through 7 m long usb cable - that is how long it takes through all the cable chains. You need an active USB extension cable. They are powered and I've seen them available in lengths from 5m to 20m

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 07 November 2013 15:54:54 Frederic RIBLE did opine: Le 2013-11-07 19:04, Gene Heskett a écrit : ... If you find a workable answer, I am all ears. Cheers, Gene I have built a fix mount on Y axis for my webcam with a custom ball joint for fine orientation along the Z

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-07 Thread Frederic RIBLE
Le 2013-11-07 22:01, Gene Heskett a écrit : Thats exactly what I am looking for. ultil.crop, I don't recall seeing a mention of. Is there a man page describing it? I have discovered that this feature was existing when analyzing camview source tree ! Below is my camview config file. util.crop

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 07 November 2013 17:44:39 Frederic RIBLE did opine: Le 2013-11-07 22:01, Gene Heskett a écrit : Thats exactly what I am looking for. ultil.crop, I don't recall seeing a mention of. Is there a man page describing it? I have discovered that this feature was existing when

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 07 November 2013 18:09:38 Gene Heskett did opine: On Thursday 07 November 2013 17:44:39 Frederic RIBLE did opine: Le 2013-11-07 22:01, Gene Heskett a écrit : Thats exactly what I am looking for. ultil.crop, I don't recall seeing a mention of. Is there a man page describing

Re: [Emc-users] USB Camera for edge finder?

2013-11-07 Thread kqt4at5v
On Thu, 7 Nov 2013, Viesturs L?cis wrote: 2013/11/7 Russell Brown russ...@lls.lls.com Quoth Ralph Stirling. Are you planning on using crosshairs and eyeballing to determine your cutter length/diameter, Ummm... I was planning on using it by eye, with Camview for Linuxcnc