Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-12 Thread Dave
Bootstrapping is not the issue. I've already got a business. $20 will start you in some businesses, but don't try and become an industrial contractor with that. The issue is the ability to go after larger jobs, and for that you need capital and equipment. Anyway taking money from the

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-12 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, Heh - way OT - sorry - I just cannot resist Anyway taking money from the government is immoral... Seriously? If that is the case then most of the nation is immoral. If you accept a tax credit, then you are accepting money from the gov. The immoral part of taking money from

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-12 Thread Igor Chudov
Guys, I am sure that we are all intelligent people and every one of us has a few opinions about government, economy, and perhaps even some hot button political issues. Another newsgroup that I participated in, Alt.machines.cnc is certifiably dead for the sole reason of political spamming.

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-12 Thread Jon Elson
Jack Coats wrote: This thread has got me thinking. I am starting to believe that selling an appliance, that happens to run EMC2 might be the best way. Linksys did it with the imfamous WRT routers that run Linux, so using EMC2 in a similar way by putting it in a 'controller box' that could

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-12 Thread Jon Elson
Dave wrote: (Somebody else wrote:) that demand is now in Asia. If I was still young I would move to where the capital is. There are plenty of aging CNC machines that are good retrofit candidates still in the US. And, it would be QUITE ridiculous to send a machine to Asia to retrofit

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-12-12 Thread sam sokolik
Thanks! the drives are what is limiting.. They are 20a continuous and 40a peak. The servos are pretty close to an amp per ft-lb. with a 2:1 belt drive - that gives us 80ft-lb peak at the screws. That is pretty close to what the old hydraulic servos. sam On 12/11/2010 08:38 PM, Jon Elson

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-12 Thread Jon Elson
Igor Chudov wrote: Another newsgroup that I participated in, Alt.machines.cnc is certifiably dead for the sole reason of political spamming. rec.crafts.metalworking, is on the verge of dying because of so much political stuff posted there. . The above newsgroups are un-moderated. THIS

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-12 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sun, 2010-12-12 at 11:54 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: ... snip Probably also have something like Bob Campbell's standard boxes with the right hole pattern for connectors and internal components, so he could just pick the required parts, bolt into box, wire up and then attach to the machine. Or,

Re: [Emc-users] [OT] Charge Pump

2010-12-12 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sun, 2010-12-12 at 18:08 +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: ... snip there is much greater risk of slightly different input thresholds causing the outputs to contest, thereby trying to short +5v to ground, when the input is slowly changing. (Counted in nanoseconds) There is then a lot to be

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-12 Thread David Winter
Hello All, I would like to ask a question related to the commecialisation of EMC. I work as a Service Engineer fixing CNC machinery. One of our customers has a machine with an Acramatic A2100 control, this control has some serious problem with it. So, the question is, if I was to

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

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Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

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Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-12 Thread Karl Schmidt
I heard the other day that GE is bringing back all of their appliance manufacturing to the US from abroad. GE, we learned just last week, is now basically owned by our government - I would suppose that is why they are making such an illogical move. ( Further, I expect the political class

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-12 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Dave, On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:16 PM, David Winter davidwin...@hondaracing.freeserve.co.uk wrote: Hello All, I would like to ask a question related to the commecialisation of EMC. I work as a Service Engineer fixing CNC machinery. One of our customers has a machine with an

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 December 2010 17:18, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously?   If that is the case then most of the nation is immoral. If you accept a tax credit, then you are accepting money from the gov.   The immoral part of taking money from the government The Nation? The Government?

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-12 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:12 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 December 2010 17:18, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously? If that is the case then most of the nation is immoral. If you accept a tax credit, then you are accepting money from the gov.

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-12 Thread Dave
Jon, My father is an old machine shop teacher and he lives just west of Detroit. There is one auction house that he frequents and he periodically buys some smaller equipment from them. He told me recently that the number of auctions in Detroit has slowed since most of the defunct machine

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-12 Thread Arnoldritercnc
It is not only for United States of America. Many years ago I decided to leave Argentina because the corruption of government, and moved to Spain. I could no be more wrong, Here in Spain corruption is everywhere, and politician fight to defend is own privileges. I receive many visitors from

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-12 Thread ducemailbox
Well put! This thread is not off topic at all (IMHO). Thanks to all for proving that I am not alone in waste land of sheeple. Bruce Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Arnoldritercnc arnoldriter...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 23:20:37 To:

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-12-12 Thread Jon Elson
sam sokolik wrote: Thanks! the drives are what is limiting.. They are 20a continuous and 40a peak. The servos are pretty close to an amp per ft-lb. with a 2:1 belt drive - that gives us 80ft-lb peak at the screws. That is pretty close to what the old hydraulic servos. I wouldn't

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-12 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: From parts, sub-assemblies, to complete turn-key, when do the regulatory controls kick in? Being a tree hugger, I'm all for making sure a product is fit and safe for the environment, neighbors, customers, etcetera, but it sure is easier to do this in-house. There is

Re: [Emc-users] [OT] Charge Pump

2010-12-12 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:49:33AM -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: I need to add a voltage regulator and filter caps, but there is no magic there. I've noticed Matt's circuit is leaner because it doesn't need one. My circuit might be improved with some I/O protection, but that will make

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-12 Thread Jon Elson
David Winter wrote: Hello All, I would like to ask a question related to the commecialisation of EMC. I work as a Service Engineer fixing CNC machinery. One of our customers has a machine with an Acramatic A2100 control, this control has some serious problem with it. So,

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-12 Thread Jack Coats
If I remember right, EMC was initially developed by the US Department of Commerce's National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST.gov) to help spur automation in commerce and industry (or some such). So yes, it was made for 6 guys to run a machine in their garage, AND for anyone (companies