Re: [Emc-users] What should I do to get the performance back?

2012-10-25 Thread Sven Wesley
Nevertheless, Sven, it would helpful to know details about your computer---motherboard, bios version, cpu, ram, etc. Like Michael said, I do not see yet how an OS version change should make much difference here. Yes, we want to help you get back your performance, but we also want to be

Re: [Emc-users] What should I do to get the performance back?

2012-10-25 Thread Lars Kruse
Hi, @Lars, in my first post [..] to avoid any confusion for other readers: I sent a private mail to Sven yesterday explaining that FMPOV he needs to be more specific about the meaning of speed and how he measured its decline. cheers, Lars

Re: [Emc-users] What should I do to get the performance back?

2012-10-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 October 2012 08:48, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: True, I could gather some HW info and post it. I'll do that. Your idea with a headless machine is a great test! Software open-GL might be another interesting test along the same lines. If this is a servo system, though, it

Re: [Emc-users] What should I do to get the performance back?

2012-10-25 Thread Sven Wesley
2012/10/25 Lars Kruse li...@sumpfralle.de Hi, @Lars, in my first post [..] to avoid any confusion for other readers: I sent a private mail to Sven yesterday explaining that FMPOV he needs to be more specific about the meaning of speed and how he measured its decline. cheers, Lars

Re: [Emc-users] What should I do to get the performance back?

2012-10-25 Thread Sven Wesley
True, I could gather some HW info and post it. I'll do that. Your idea with a headless machine is a great test! Software open-GL might be another interesting test along the same lines. If this is a servo system, though, it would seem unlikely that latency would have any effect on the

Re: [Emc-users] What should I do to get the performance back?

2012-10-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 October 2012 11:44, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: In fact, this is a servo based step/dir system (my big steel router) and not a closed loop á la Mesa style servo system. If you are limited by software step generation then I strongly advocate a change to a Mesa 5i25 if you

[Emc-users] Old Siemens Servo Motors With Allen-Bradley Ultra3000 Drives

2012-10-25 Thread Bruce Layne
I'm doing a LinuxCNC conversion of a huge CNC saw and dual gantry router. I call it The Beast. It's a gantry machine with a 7.5 HP radial arm saw, two 15 HP routers, and two air drills. It's made the enclosures for some of the finest loudspeakers ever built, and needs to do so again.

Re: [Emc-users] What should I do to get the performance back?

2012-10-25 Thread Sven Wesley
2012/10/25 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com On 25 October 2012 11:44, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: In fact, this is a servo based step/dir system (my big steel router) and not a closed loop á la Mesa style servo system. If you are limited by software step generation then I

Re: [Emc-users] What should I do to get the performance back?

2012-10-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 25 October 2012 10:48:10 Sven Wesley did opine: 2012/10/25 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com On 25 October 2012 11:44, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: In fact, this is a servo based step/dir system (my big steel router) and not a closed loop ل la Mesa style servo

Re: [Emc-users] What should I do to get the performance back?

2012-10-25 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Gene Heskett wrote: I'd agree, but those of us using the D525MW need a 5i25 that will fit that teeny little slot on that board. It has crossed my mind to do that at least once in the last year, but that is the show stopper. Its something that I would need to get to a

Re: [Emc-users] Old Siemens Servo Motors With Allen-Bradley Ultra3000 Drives

2012-10-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 October 2012 13:56, Bruce Layne linux...@thinkingdevices.com wrote: I think part of the problem I'm having might be caused by not using the Hall Effect sensors. The old Siemens motor uses 15V Hall Effect sensors and the Ultra3000 wants them to be modern 5V Hall Effect sensors, so

Re: [Emc-users] Old Siemens Servo Motors With Allen-Bradley Ultra3000 Drives

2012-10-25 Thread John figie
Voltage translation of the 24V hall sensor outputs to 5V would be straight forward. Inside the Ultra the hall sensor inputs are pulled up to 5V by 1K and also the input goes through 1K to the input of a 74HCT14. There are clamp diodes at the 74HCT and a small cap. On Oct 25, 2012 8:02 AM,

Re: [Emc-users] What should I do to get the performance back?

2012-10-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 25 October 2012 14:54:50 Peter C. Wallace did opine: On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Gene Heskett wrote: I'd agree, but those of us using the D525MW need a 5i25 that will fit that teeny little slot on that board. It has crossed my mind to do that at least once in the last year, but that is

Re: [Emc-users] Old Siemens Servo Motors With Allen-Bradley Ultra3000 Drives

2012-10-25 Thread Bruce Layne
On 10/25/2012 11:41 AM, andy pugh wrote: If the drives are using the encoders for commutation after an auto sense then the locked-rotor situation might be caused by the encoder and motor having a different idea of clockwise. I would certainly try swapping two motor power leads to reverse the

Re: [Emc-users] What should I do to get the performance back?

2012-10-25 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
I was under the impression it was straight pci, Peter. And my boards IIRC have a teeny little pci-e slot. The 6i25 is the PCIE version of the 5i25. Stephen -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web

Re: [Emc-users] What should I do to get the performance back?

2012-10-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 25 October 2012 16:30:11 Stephen Dubovsky did opine: I was under the impression it was straight pci, Peter. And my boards IIRC have a teeny little pci-e slot. The 6i25 is the PCIE version of the 5i25. Stephen And a careful look at the MB's connector layout, it shows the

Re: [Emc-users] What should I do to get the performance back?

2012-10-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 October 2012 21:38, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Am I to understand then that if I put a 5i25 in, the regular parport then becomes available for other controls? Yes. But then for only another $120 you could add a 7i76 and have a handy breakout and 32(?) proper IO pins in

[Emc-users] Hardware Question - Mesa

2012-10-25 Thread Gandjpappy
Brand new to Linux and LinuxCNC. I have an old CNC Mill that I am gutting and even though it had been converted with a stand alone motion board, I am thinking about starting over with LinuxCnC. My question is on the Mesa boards. My mill uses servos so it looks like a 5i25 and 7i77 would work

Re: [Emc-users] Hardware Question - Mesa

2012-10-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 October 2012 23:43, Gandjpappy gandjpa...@aol.com wrote: My question is on the Mesa boards. Don't forget to look at the Pico solutions too. http://www.pico-systems.com/motion.html My mill uses servos so it looks like a 5i25 and 7i77 would work but I read where someone was using a

Re: [Emc-users] What should I do to get the performance back?

2012-10-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 25 October 2012 17:30:38 andy pugh did opine: On 25 October 2012 21:38, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Am I to understand then that if I put a 5i25 in, the regular parport then becomes available for other controls? Yes. But then for only another $120 you could add a