Re: [Emc-users] Pendant recommendations
Hi Dave; Take a look at X-keys @www.xkeys.com When they are programed to emulate the keyboard keys of AXIS, you can control all the machine functions with the hand held pendant. This really simplifies the operations for me allowing manual operation of the all the mills functions or at the mill setup and program control. My choice is the X-keys MWII which allows 39 functions on 4 by 7 pendant. You will need access to MS$ system to program the keys with the software the company provides via Internet. After programed simply plug into the computer USB port with the computer keyboard not in Caps Lock and go to work. I would not recommend programming the home function on the pendant. That is the one key capable of disaster if unintentionally pressed. Hope this helps Don On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:26 AM, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.zawrote: Jon Do you care to elaborate on the diode encoder? On 2013/06/03 02:42 AM, Jon Elson wrote: Dave wrote: I've look at the CNC4PC pendants and I have looked at the pendants on Ebay. I think the CNC4PC is a pretty good design, and should be reasonably robust. I have basically duplicated the function of that unit myself. The only change I made was to reverse the polarity of the white button, so it is normally open. This enabled the MPG when pushed. When not pushed, the MPG has no effect of the machine. The only reason I made my own is the CNC4PC is a bit expensive for what is in it. I also added a diode encoder so I could control 4 axes plus spindle override and feed override with only 3 wires to 3 digital inputs. (Another 2 for the rate select switch.) Jon -- Regards / Groete Marius D. Liebenberg MasterCut cc Cel: +27 82 698 3251 Tel: +27 12 743 6064 Fax: +27 86 551 8029 Skype: marius_d.liebenberg --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 130602-1, 2013/06/02 Tested on: 2013/06/03 07:26:31 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2013 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mesa 7i39 and BLDC
The way I start getting control over motor is: 1) first step - get it to spin in n mode; that will require that You setp bldc.value and bldc.frequency pins at some value. I usually set value at 0.15 and frequency 10 Motor is reversed by changing value to negative number. Easy way to do is issue setp bldc.n.value -0.15 in Show HAL configuration window. To me motor is not reversed by negating bldc.n.value. It reverses on negative frequency instead. Is this ok? -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pendant recommendations
On 06/02/2013 04:17 PM, Erik Friesen wrote: It is set up so that a second button has to be pressed to enable jogging to prevent accidental jogging. Is there some equivalent safety feature on the Jog It! pendant? Nope. The JogIt pendant is a very simple device. Pushing any button sends a keyboard command, the same as if the key was pressed on a keyboard. The difference is, the pendant buttons are specific to running a CNC machine, the simplified pendant keypad is laid out ergonomically for CNC control, and the keys are labeled for their CNC function as opposed to a regular keyboard that has letters and numbers and symbols spread all over the place. There is a pair of buttons to increase and decrease the jog speed so you can jog slowly for delicate work or you can go fast if you're in a hurry when making long moves. There are six dedicated buttons for jogging the X, Y and Z axes, each in both directions. The JogIt pendant also allows homing, running programs, stopping programs, pausing and resuming programs, control of two dedicated outputs AUX1 and AUX2 which might be used for flood and mist coolant in some applications. Because the JogIt pendant is essentially a keyboard and it's open source, you could easily add a normally open push button in series with the power from the USB port, so that button would need to be pressed before the other buttons were active, but so far I haven't found it to be a big problem. I just don't press buttons when I shouldn't. :-) An MPG is very cool and definitely has the real CNC feel about it, but I find the JogIt to be quite adequate for my needs, and I do love the plug-n-play aspect of it. If you have an open USB port for the JogIt, it's gonna work with no HAL file manipulation, no wiring, no searching the internet after it doesn't work, etc. There are a couple of demo videos on the KickStarter page I linked to in my last post. Here it is again. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1651082654/jog-it-open-source-controller-pendant-for-emc2-and Here's the direct link to the video showing the JogIt pendant controlling a machine via LinuxCNC. http://youtu.be/WcQDt7Doo5w (4:35 video) -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pendant recommendations
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: I want to buy a pendant for use with a Bridgeport CNC mill I have converted to Linuxcnc. I think I want an MPG with axes selection, but tell me if you disagree. I don't want to make my own as I have way too much other work to do right now. I am really looking for an off the shelf hardware solution. If it requires some hal configuration, I am not worried about that. What do you guys recommend? If the pendant gets bumped, I don't want it fracture and fly apart, etc. I've look at the CNC4PC pendants and I have looked at the pendants on Ebay. How practical are USB joysticks for use as pendants on a milling machine? If you are using a USB joystick as a pendant, which model are you using?? Thanks, Dave Dave, I've got both on my machine - one of the Keling MPG's and also a joystick. They have different uses the way I have them set up. With the MPG, I can move the machine exactly .1, .01, and .001 in any axis. With the joy stick I can do rapid moves by holding the stick over. Depends on what you want. Mark -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pendant recommendations
A commercial pendant could be ok on a knee mill if you have the holder for it but I've found just mounting the MPG to the table and having a selector switch for each axis and for increments much easier to operate. I use a joypad on my plasma for rough positioning but it would be awkward to use/store on my BP knee mill. MPG mount http://gnipsel.com/shop/bp1/bp1-01.xhtml Selector switches http://gnipsel.com/shop/bp1/bp1-07.xhtml These are always in the same place so I don't even have to look at them to use them... YMMV JT On 6/2/2013 2:16 PM, Dave wrote: I want to buy a pendant for use with a Bridgeport CNC mill I have converted to Linuxcnc. I think I want an MPG with axes selection, but tell me if you disagree. I don't want to make my own as I have way too much other work to do right now. I am really looking for an off the shelf hardware solution. If it requires some hal configuration, I am not worried about that. What do you guys recommend? If the pendant gets bumped, I don't want it fracture and fly apart, etc. I've look at the CNC4PC pendants and I have looked at the pendants on Ebay. How practical are USB joysticks for use as pendants on a milling machine? If you are using a USB joystick as a pendant, which model are you using?? Thanks, Dave -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pendant recommendations
Mounting to the table... that sounds very practical. I never thought of that. John how are you holding your screen? Is that something you made up? Thanks, Dave On 6/3/2013 7:41 AM, John Thornton wrote: A commercial pendant could be ok on a knee mill if you have the holder for it but I've found just mounting the MPG to the table and having a selector switch for each axis and for increments much easier to operate. I use a joypad on my plasma for rough positioning but it would be awkward to use/store on my BP knee mill. MPG mount http://gnipsel.com/shop/bp1/bp1-01.xhtml Selector switches http://gnipsel.com/shop/bp1/bp1-07.xhtml These are always in the same place so I don't even have to look at them to use them... YMMV JT On 6/2/2013 2:16 PM, Dave wrote: I want to buy a pendant for use with a Bridgeport CNC mill I have converted to Linuxcnc. I think I want an MPG with axes selection, but tell me if you disagree. I don't want to make my own as I have way too much other work to do right now. I am really looking for an off the shelf hardware solution. If it requires some hal configuration, I am not worried about that. What do you guys recommend? If the pendant gets bumped, I don't want it fracture and fly apart, etc. I've look at the CNC4PC pendants and I have looked at the pendants on Ebay. How practical are USB joysticks for use as pendants on a milling machine? If you are using a USB joystick as a pendant, which model are you using?? Thanks, Dave -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pendant recommendations
On 6/3/2013 5:08 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Davee...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: I want to buy a pendant for use with a Bridgeport CNC mill I have converted to Linuxcnc. I think I want an MPG with axes selection, but tell me if you disagree. I don't want to make my own as I have way too much other work to do right now. I am really looking for an off the shelf hardware solution. If it requires some hal configuration, I am not worried about that. What do you guys recommend? If the pendant gets bumped, I don't want it fracture and fly apart, etc. I've look at the CNC4PC pendants and I have looked at the pendants on Ebay. How practical are USB joysticks for use as pendants on a milling machine? If you are using a USB joystick as a pendant, which model are you using?? Thanks, Dave Dave, I've got both on my machine - one of the Keling MPG's and also a joystick. They have different uses the way I have them set up. With the MPG, I can move the machine exactly .1, .01, and .001 in any axis. With the joy stick I can do rapid moves by holding the stick over. Depends on what you want. Mark -- I was thinking that a Joystick would be great for a plasma cutter, but I need to do touch offs with the mill and that is a different situation. I'll see how this Chinese joystick works out. On the low $ end of pendants, it seems that the Chinese have the market cornered. I don't see the Jog it! being sold on Ebay or anywhere else for that matter. Thanks, Dave -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pendant recommendations
The black arm was left over from the Anilam control that I removed. The arm pivots but I never pivot it. It would be simple to construct one. I now have a desktop touch screen and just popped the cover off the base and screwed it down to the arm then put the cover back on. I can take a more recent photo in a bit and add it to my web site if your interested in seeing it. JT On 6/3/2013 7:34 AM, Dave wrote: Mounting to the table... that sounds very practical. I never thought of that. John how are you holding your screen? Is that something you made up? Thanks, Dave On 6/3/2013 7:41 AM, John Thornton wrote: A commercial pendant could be ok on a knee mill if you have the holder for it but I've found just mounting the MPG to the table and having a selector switch for each axis and for increments much easier to operate. I use a joypad on my plasma for rough positioning but it would be awkward to use/store on my BP knee mill. MPG mount http://gnipsel.com/shop/bp1/bp1-01.xhtml Selector switches http://gnipsel.com/shop/bp1/bp1-07.xhtml These are always in the same place so I don't even have to look at them to use them... YMMV JT On 6/2/2013 2:16 PM, Dave wrote: I want to buy a pendant for use with a Bridgeport CNC mill I have converted to Linuxcnc. I think I want an MPG with axes selection, but tell me if you disagree. I don't want to make my own as I have way too much other work to do right now. I am really looking for an off the shelf hardware solution. If it requires some hal configuration, I am not worried about that. What do you guys recommend? If the pendant gets bumped, I don't want it fracture and fly apart, etc. I've look at the CNC4PC pendants and I have looked at the pendants on Ebay. How practical are USB joysticks for use as pendants on a milling machine? If you are using a USB joystick as a pendant, which model are you using?? Thanks, Dave -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pendant recommendations
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: Dave, I've got both on my machine - one of the Keling MPG's and also a joystick. They have different uses the way I have them set up. With the MPG, I can move the machine exactly .1, .01, and .001 in any axis. With the joy stick I can do rapid moves by holding the stick over. Depends on what you want. Mark -- I was thinking that a Joystick would be great for a plasma cutter, but I need to do touch offs with the mill and that is a different situation. I'll see how this Chinese joystick works out. On the low $ end of pendants, it seems that the Chinese have the market cornered. I don't see the Jog it! being sold on Ebay or anywhere else for that matter. Thanks, Dave For touch-offs you are probably better set with the MPG. Be nice if they had a built-in joystick on the MPG I have. The nice thing about most of the joysticks is they're USB, so don't require a second parport. Also, a lot of the MPG's require an adapter to go from the DB25 parallel port to the DB-something or other the MPG uses. The adapter also requires 5 VDC, which is gotten from a spare USB port. Mark -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pendant recommendations
On 3 June 2013 12:41, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: MPG mount http://gnipsel.com/shop/bp1/bp1-01.xhtml Selector switches http://gnipsel.com/shop/bp1/bp1-07.xhtml My MPG is also fixed, but in a less ergonomic place. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/AfcLxywbiVM3Op2P8rhXFtMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink It is the brass knob under the monitor. It is actually one of these switches: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160392668169 And because my machine is running resolvers the counting is actually by a software counter running in the servo thread. But it seems to work fine so far despite only being 16 clicks per rev. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pendant recommendations
On 6/3/2013 8:48 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Davee...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: Dave, I've got both on my machine - one of the Keling MPG's and also a joystick. They have different uses the way I have them set up. With the MPG, I can move the machine exactly .1, .01, and .001 in any axis. With the joy stick I can do rapid moves by holding the stick over. Depends on what you want. Mark -- I was thinking that a Joystick would be great for a plasma cutter, but I need to do touch offs with the mill and that is a different situation. I'll see how this Chinese joystick works out. On the low $ end of pendants, it seems that the Chinese have the market cornered. I don't see the Jog it! being sold on Ebay or anywhere else for that matter. Thanks, Dave For touch-offs you are probably better set with the MPG. Be nice if they had a built-in joystick on the MPG I have. The nice thing about most of the joysticks is they're USB, so don't require a second parport. Also, a lot of the MPG's require an adapter to go from the DB25 parallel port to the DB-something or other the MPG uses. The adapter also requires 5 VDC, which is gotten from a spare USB port. Mark -- For touch-offs you are probably better set with the MPG. That is what I was thinking... I think I will just run it into a cheap BOB and then onto the LPT port. That should make the wiring easy. Dave -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pendant recommendations
On 6/3/2013 8:41 AM, John Thornton wrote: I can take a more recent photo in a bit and add it to my web site if your interested in seeing it. Please do if you have the time. I'm going back and forth on how to mount the screen to the arm.. I may use just use the Vesa mount, but then I have to build/find some type of swivel setup. This was a Boss 5 mill so it already has a substantial arm on the machine already. Thanks, Dave -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pendant recommendations
On 6/3/2013 8:51 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 3 June 2013 12:41, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com wrote: MPG mount http://gnipsel.com/shop/bp1/bp1-01.xhtml Selector switches http://gnipsel.com/shop/bp1/bp1-07.xhtml My MPG is also fixed, but in a less ergonomic place. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/AfcLxywbiVM3Op2P8rhXFtMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink It is the brass knob under the monitor. It is actually one of these switches: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160392668169 And because my machine is running resolvers the counting is actually by a software counter running in the servo thread. But it seems to work fine so far despite only being 16 clicks per rev. Nice... can't beat that MPG for cost! :-) Nice PC box also. Have you had that horizontal mill for a while? I don't remember seeing that in your other photos. Nice size. Dave -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pendant recommendations
On 3 June 2013 14:22, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: Have you had that horizontal mill for a while? I don't remember seeing that in your other photos. It's a universal mill, and spends most of its time being vertical. That is it set up in the gear hobbing configuration. The vertical head is dangling from the ceiling just out of shot (you can see the chains of the little hoist I use) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] BeagleBone + BeBoPr 3D Printing
On 06/02/2013 08:29 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: snip--- I've gotten enough of a response from my BeagleBone + LinuxCNC videos that I've created a blog to track the progress and post answers to questions so everyone can benefit (and I hopefully have less e-mail to respond to!): http://bb-lcnc.blogspot.com/ ...I'll still post here when I reach a major milestones, but check the blog if you want to track intermediate progress. - -- Charles Steinkuehlerthnqak thanks for all you work! tjtr33 -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pendant recommendations
I added a front and rear view of the touchscreen on the BP to the gallery. http://gnipsel.com/shop/bp1/bp1.xhtml JT On 6/3/2013 8:20 AM, Dave wrote: On 6/3/2013 8:41 AM, John Thornton wrote: I can take a more recent photo in a bit and add it to my web site if your interested in seeing it. Please do if you have the time. I'm going back and forth on how to mount the screen to the arm.. I may use just use the Vesa mount, but then I have to build/find some type of swivel setup. This was a Boss 5 mill so it already has a substantial arm on the machine already. Thanks, Dave -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pendant recommendations
Marius Liebenberg wrote: Jon Do you care to elaborate on the diode encoder? Down at the bottom of this page is a link to a pdf file with the schematic. http://pico-systems.com/pendant.html This one encoder X, Y and Z, feedrate and spindle overrides. The diodes convert the single pole switch so it creates a binary code, which is then decoded in the HAL file. I have HAL files linked there for two versions. The UPC pendant file matches the schematic, the PPMC pendant is a bit different, it has 4 axes before the spindle and feedrate settings. These connect to the digital inputs of my motion control boards, which require a sinking-type switch. In a case where the contacts need a voltage source, the diodes would be reversed. The whole purpose of this is to save digital inputs. On the UPC/Minimill setup, I had already used up all my encoder counters, so I interfaced the MPG also through digital inputs, and was running very short. The multiplexing allowed me to have 5 or 6 selections (axes plus overrides) as well as 3 rate selections with only 5 wires and 5 digital inputs. Jon -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pendant recommendations
FYI, I did something similar to Jon and used only 2 wires for the 3 feed rates. Though, I left the smallest (X1) increment as the unconnected one to use as the default if one of the other two weren't active. So if the switch is between positions, flaky contact, broken wire, etc it defaults to the smallest increment. Stephen On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Marius Liebenberg wrote: Jon Do you care to elaborate on the diode encoder? Down at the bottom of this page is a link to a pdf file with the schematic. http://pico-systems.com/pendant.html This one encoder X, Y and Z, feedrate and spindle overrides. The diodes convert the single pole switch so it creates a binary code, which is then decoded in the HAL file. I have HAL files linked there for two versions. The UPC pendant file matches the schematic, the PPMC pendant is a bit different, it has 4 axes before the spindle and feedrate settings. These connect to the digital inputs of my motion control boards, which require a sinking-type switch. In a case where the contacts need a voltage source, the diodes would be reversed. The whole purpose of this is to save digital inputs. On the UPC/Minimill setup, I had already used up all my encoder counters, so I interfaced the MPG also through digital inputs, and was running very short. The multiplexing allowed me to have 5 or 6 selections (axes plus overrides) as well as 3 rate selections with only 5 wires and 5 digital inputs. Jon -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] USB Pendant (XHC HB04)
Not to hijack the recent pendant thread, but I thought I saw scrolling past that someone may have had working the XHC pendants with LCNC? These are (rather sexy) USB or USB-Wireless units with an MPG, LCD for DRO and button pad. I picked up one of the wireless units, despite my misgivings about wireless control, more for fun with a friend who is still running Mach3 (so I could give it away if needed) - but thinking that maybe that someday I might actually get the time to see if HIDCOMP would see it. Although these are available from a variety of sellers, http://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/mpgs/wireless-mpg-handwheel-for-mach3-controller is the most loved distributor by the Mach guys, currently. This isn't a plug for this device, as I certainly don't have it working (at all) with LinuxCNC (or even Mach at the moment) - but I'm fishing to see if someone already has Regards, Ted. -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] USB Pendant (XHC HB04)
Ooh that's pretty! Too bad its USB and probably won't work on linuxCNC...? I'd love to have something like that on my Cincinatti Arrow retrofit. Pete On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Ted Hyde laser...@gmail.com wrote: Not to hijack the recent pendant thread, but I thought I saw scrolling past that someone may have had working the XHC pendants with LCNC? These are (rather sexy) USB or USB-Wireless units with an MPG, LCD for DRO and button pad. I picked up one of the wireless units, despite my misgivings about wireless control, more for fun with a friend who is still running Mach3 (so I could give it away if needed) - but thinking that maybe that someday I might actually get the time to see if HIDCOMP would see it. Although these are available from a variety of sellers, http://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/mpgs/wireless-mpg-handwheel-for-mach3-controller is the most loved distributor by the Mach guys, currently. This isn't a plug for this device, as I certainly don't have it working (at all) with LinuxCNC (or even Mach at the moment) - but I'm fishing to see if someone already has Regards, Ted. -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mesa 7i39 and BLDC
2013/6/3 propcoder marius.alks...@gmail.com The way I start getting control over motor is: 1) first step - get it to spin in n mode; that will require that You setp bldc.value and bldc.frequency pins at some value. I usually set value at 0.15 and frequency 10 Motor is reversed by changing value to negative number. Easy way to do is issue setp bldc.n.value -0.15 in Show HAL configuration window. To me motor is not reversed by negating bldc.n.value. It reverses on negative frequency instead. Is this ok? I guess that yes, as You will not control the motor with these setting anyway, it is just to check, if the drive actually can spin the motor - it is wired correctly etc. Now You can turn motor slowly and check, if all 3 Hall sensor signals are received and You can check, if encoder position is captured correctly (it increments/decrements correctly as motor turns one or the other direction). Did You try h mode? For me it was the toughest to find correct Hall pattern. Later on going to qh was relatively easy. -- Viesturs If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] USB Pendant (XHC HB04)
It would be really nice to have wireless control like this, as in my case, I have bit larger machine, and for zeroing the part, I literally need to be in the machine and do it. For now I'm struggling with Logitech wireless keyboard... I might give it a try to wireless gamepad if it will do the job for temporary... Not to hijack the recent pendant thread, but I thought I saw scrolling past that someone may have had working the XHC pendants with LCNC? These are (rather sexy) USB or USB-Wireless units with an MPG, LCD for DRO and button pad. I picked up one of the wireless units, despite my misgivings about wireless control, more for fun with a friend who is still running Mach3 (so I could give it away if needed) - but thinking that maybe that someday I might actually get the time to see if HIDCOMP would see it. Although these are available from a variety of sellers, http://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/mpgs/wireless-mpg-handwheel-for-mach3-controller is the most loved distributor by the Mach guys, currently. This isn't a plug for this device, as I certainly don't have it working (at all) with LinuxCNC (or even Mach at the moment) - but I'm fishing to see if someone already has -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] USB Pendant (XHC HB04)
On 3 June 2013 19:29, Ted Hyde laser...@gmail.com wrote: Not to hijack the recent pendant thread, but I thought I saw scrolling past that someone may have had working the XHC pendants with LCNC? http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/18-computer/26168-hal-file-to-enhace-mpg-pendant-usb-wireless#32739 -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pendant recommendations
On 3 June 2013 18:15, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: The whole purpose of this is to save digital inputs. The matrix_kb component might be useful for this too. Things don't have to be in a square physical array to be wired as a matrix. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mesa 7i39 and BLDC
On 3 June 2013 20:41, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: Did You try h mode? For me it was the toughest to find correct Hall pattern. Later on going to qh was relatively easy. PCW has pointed out to me that some of the Hall patterns are not actually valid, as they don't follow a progressive sequence. However, it is a bit late to go changing them now… Checking the bldc.N.hall-error pin is a good idea. If that shows true then no matter if the motor is spinning, the hall pattern is wrong. Try 15 first. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] USB Pendant (XHC HB04)
On Monday 03 June 2013 18:14:34 Pete Matos did opine: Ooh that's pretty! Too bad its USB and probably won't work on linuxCNC...? I'd love to have something like that on my Cincinatti Arrow retrofit. USB is not a problem, it (the Saitek) worked just fine on my old slow single core amd box, but I found its poor control made it a bad deal for me, and when I installed the Atom boarded box, it never got configured back in. Pete On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Ted Hyde laser...@gmail.com wrote: Not to hijack the recent pendant thread, but I thought I saw scrolling past that someone may have had working the XHC pendants with LCNC? These are (rather sexy) USB or USB-Wireless units with an MPG, LCD for DRO and button pad. I picked up one of the wireless units, despite my misgivings about wireless control, more for fun with a friend who is still running Mach3 (so I could give it away if needed) - but thinking that maybe that someday I might actually get the time to see if HIDCOMP would see it. Although these are available from a variety of sellers, http://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/mpgs/wireless-m pg-handwheel-for-mach3-controller is the most loved distributor by the Mach guys, currently. This isn't a plug for this device, as I certainly don't have it working (at all) with LinuxCNC (or even Mach at the moment) - but I'm fishing to see if someone already has Regards, Ted. -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene is up! My views http://www.armchairpatriot.com/What%20Has%20America%20Become.shtml Kin, n.: An affliction of the blood. A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] USB Pendant (XHC HB04)
Interesting I had heard the MPG should always be wired with linuxCNC because of the real time issue. I certainly have a spare USB port on my vmcs pendant ready for one. Who am i kidding tho I need to find some damn work for the machine before I pay for any more toys for it. Sigh. Peace Pete On Monday, June 3, 2013, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Monday 03 June 2013 18:14:34 Pete Matos did opine: Ooh that's pretty! Too bad its USB and probably won't work on linuxCNC...? I'd love to have something like that on my Cincinatti Arrow retrofit. USB is not a problem, it (the Saitek) worked just fine on my old slow single core amd box, but I found its poor control made it a bad deal for me, and when I installed the Atom boarded box, it never got configured back in. Pete On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Ted Hyde laser...@gmail.com wrote: Not to hijack the recent pendant thread, but I thought I saw scrolling past that someone may have had working the XHC pendants with LCNC? These are (rather sexy) USB or USB-Wireless units with an MPG, LCD for DRO and button pad. I picked up one of the wireless units, despite my misgivings about wireless control, more for fun with a friend who is still running Mach3 (so I could give it away if needed) - but thinking that maybe that someday I might actually get the time to see if HIDCOMP would see it. Although these are available from a variety of sellers, http://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/mpgs/wireless-m pg-handwheel-for-mach3-controller is the most loved distributor by the Mach guys, currently. This isn't a plug for this device, as I certainly don't have it working (at all) with LinuxCNC (or even Mach at the moment) - but I'm fishing to see if someone already has Regards, Ted. -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene is up! My views http://www.armchairpatriot.com/What%20Has%20America%20Become.shtml Kin, n.: An affliction of the blood. A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] USB Pendant (XHC HB04)
On Monday 03 June 2013 18:30:55 Pete Matos did opine: Interesting I had heard the MPG should always be wired with linuxCNC because of the real time issue. I certainly have a spare USB port on my vmcs pendant ready for one. Who am i kidding tho I need to find some damn work for the machine before I pay for any more toys for it. Sigh. Peace Pete I believe the rub comes in on the USB is because if a device has any storage in it, like a 2Gb usb-key, the system has to scan it for mistaken organization. That takes time screws with lcnc. Take the storage out of the scene, and I believe its effect is relatively minimal. Heck, I'm using USB wireless keyboard and mouse on the lathe, and the only time I have a problem is if the receiver gizmo gets knocked off the top of the spindle housing, its cable can reach the floor, and that too long a range for reliable operation with those puny powered bluetooth used in those. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene is up! My views http://www.armchairpatriot.com/What%20Has%20America%20Become.shtml People respond to people who respond. A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pendant recommendations
Thanks John, I like that. Simple yet effective. Dave On 6/3/2013 11:20 AM, John Thornton wrote: I added a front and rear view of the touchscreen on the BP to the gallery. http://gnipsel.com/shop/bp1/bp1.xhtml JT On 6/3/2013 8:20 AM, Dave wrote: On 6/3/2013 8:41 AM, John Thornton wrote: I can take a more recent photo in a bit and add it to my web site if your interested in seeing it. Please do if you have the time. I'm going back and forth on how to mount the screen to the arm.. I may use just use the Vesa mount, but then I have to build/find some type of swivel setup. This was a Boss 5 mill so it already has a substantial arm on the machine already. Thanks, Dave -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
