[Emc-users] EMC 2.3 on Sherline Lathe Issues

2014-07-12 Thread toolznglue
Hi, Folks:

I finally installed my motor drive and computer on my Sherline Model 4400 lathe 
and am ready to try making something.

In this case, it’ll be a small bell for an N-Scale locomotive. I found a photo 
of a bell that I can import into a drawing program, and then trace. I’ve turned 
the bell so that the axis of the clapper is horizontal. I’ve traced the photo, 
so I have a drawing of the outline. I’m using Vector CAD/CAM Version 11. I’m 
using the EMC G-Code processor that shipped with it. EMC is configured for a 2 
axis lathe and uses X and Z. I’m using the AXIS interface.

One issue I’m having is that I’m working in the X-Y plane with Vector, but EMC 
wants to use the X-Z plane. To date, I’ve edited the one G-Code I’ve made to 
convert the “Y” to “Z.” Is there a way to configure the 2 axis lathe to use X 
and Y rather than X and Z?

The next issue I’m having is the maximum speed. This seems to default to 30; 
I’d feel a lot more comfortable lowering this to 20. I can do that with the 
slider that Axis provides. However, is there a configuration variable somewhere 
that I could set to 20 instead?

Finally, Axis always opens in a window on the screen; is there any way to 
default this window to maximum size when the program starts up? I know that I 
can click on one of the controls in the title bar to enlarge the window after 
everything starts up.

This is going to be a fun ride. Is there anything else I should know that I’m 
not asking about?

Thanks in advance for your help

Jerry Jankura
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[Emc-users] EMC 2.3 + Sherline 4400 Lathe

2014-06-10 Thread toolznglue
Hi, Folks:

I’ve just about got the hardware to convert a manual Sherline model 4400 lathe 
to CNC. The last step is to set up a box to hold the power supply, motor drive, 
etc. and then to interconnect the computer, motor drive, and stepper motors.

My Hardware Configuration is:

Sherline model 4400 lathe with Sherline’s CNC motor kit.
Hobby CNC EasyCNC 3 axis motor drive (only 2 axes will be used)
Sony PCG-F430 r PCG-F480 computer

The computer is set up using Linux V8 with EMC 2.3; max allowable memory on the 
Sony precludes using a newer version of EMC or a newer OS. Linux is Hardy 
Heron. Also can boot into Windows XP or Windows 98se. Hard drive is 40 gig   
IDE.

I’m using an older version of Vector CAD as my drawing program; 

I assume that the spindle center is X=0; am thinking that the end of the part 
nearest the spindle will be Z=0. Are these a reasonable set of assumptions? Is 
the tool moving away from the spindle in both the X and Z directions considered 
positive?

Does anyone have any advice  on how to continue? I’m planning on making sure 
that I can jog the motors reliably before going any further. From there, it’ll 
be “cutting air” to see how the tool would be moved. I’m thinking that my first 
“real” part will be an N-Scale bell for a locomotive that I recently purchased.

Thanks for any help you folks can provide.

BTW, The maximum memory that the Sony computers support keeps me at Linux 8.x 
and EMC 2.3. I’ve already got one of the Sony’s running my Sherline Mill and am 
quite satisfied with the performance I’ve gotten. My only (reasonable to me) 
option is to use the HP ZV-6000 that I’ve got which has 2 gigs of memory. But 
that computer doesn’t have a parallel port and I’ve yet to figure out how to 
get the PCMCIA parallel output port card that I’ve got working under Linux. Of 
course, I’ll admit that I’m not pursuing the problem nearly as diligently as 
I’d be doing if I hadn’t acquired a few of the Sony computers. :)

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Re: [Emc-users] Running on older computers

2014-06-01 Thread toolznglue
Where would one find these alternate interfaces for EMC? I’m running a Sherline 
mill using EMC 8.something and Hardy Heron on a Sony PCG-F430 computer with 256 
megabytes of memory. So far, it’s been running great using the Axis interface. 
Has anyone modified the Axis interface to have a “home all” button for the 
manual mode? It’s a bit of a pain to move from axis to axis to “home” each 
individually since it appears that the “homing” just sets a flag somewhere to 
allow the program to continue.

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On Jun 1, 2014, at 12:12 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:

 You could also look at the Mini interface, which uses a much 
 less
 CPU intensive graphical screen, and I know Mini still 
 works.  It is
 used by the Sherline configs.
 
 Also, there is the Touchy interface, which has no 3-D by 
 default, but
 is pretty hard to use without a touch screen, and also needs a
 couple buttons and a manual encoder.  But, given those 
 features, it
 is a VERY nice interface.


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Re: [Emc-users] Running EMC on older computers

2014-05-19 Thread toolznglue
IMHO, there’s a big “it depends” issue when we look at advice on computers.

As I see it, there are at least three types of users —

The first is the person who’s using their machines to make a living, or at 
least to turn a buck. For that user, I’d most likely recommend building your 
own computer using various motherboards, video boards, and I/O boards that 
places like Microcenter offer. Everything would be purchased new and would be 
replaceable. I’d also suggest purchasing additional I/O boards as these are 
what I’e expect to fail more often than the hard drive or mother board, etc. 
When you’re looking to use your machine as part of your livelihood, you don’t 
want to rely on a bunch of old used equipment. A failure could result in a 
significant loss - more than you’d spend for a current state-of-the-art system. 
They’ll also want to use the latest version of EMC/LinuxCNC once it’s been out 
for a while.

The next person is the one who has metalworking as their hobby, or as a major 
part of their hobby. They’re not trying to turn a buck with their tools, but 
they’re generally found puttering in the shop making “this or that.” Here, they 
don’t need the latest and greatest - recently retired will do - but you want 
something that’s fast and and has replacement parts available. The PCG or 
Cybernet Elite II won’t cut the mustard. Too old, too slow, often not enough 
memory. They might be on the bleeding edge of being the first to install and 
try out the latest versions of EMC/LinuxCNC, depending on where their interests 
lie.

And, finally, you come to folks like me. I purchased a Sherline mill  lathe 
when I retired fourteen years ago - gads, has it been that long? - with the 
intention of building a brass locomotive. I’m in the “desktop machine” league, 
which tends to limit the speed at which I can do things. This plays well with 
using older equipment that can’t generate robust step pulses at high rates. But 
the PCG’s will support 20 ipm rapids with Sherline’s 20 tpi leadscrews and 4 
microsteps per step motor drives. I don’t use these tools every day.

Model trains and woodworking are my main hobbies. Metalworking is a sideline as 
necessary to support the main hobbies. I did a lot of factory automation 
projects when I was working - putting cameras, computers, and motors on 
manufacturing equipment to make or inspect things - so I’ve got some knowledge 
of computers and am not afraid of taking things apart. 

I’ve no real need to keep up with the latest and greatest version of  
EMC/LinuxCNC as long as the version I’m using allows me to do the things that I 
want to do. I’ve also played a lot with TurboCNC for DOS but it’s pretty much 
been abandoned which is why I moved to EMC. Obsolete computers that come 
cheaply work for me. Quite frankly, I was surprised that EMC V8 runs so nicely 
on the PCG that I bought when that machine was the state of the art. So much so 
that I’ve purchased a few extra Sony PCG's and have EMC installed on them, 
ready to go, in the event that the ones connected to my machines fail. I’ve 
found that eBay’s “buy it now” is my friend.

BTW, I doubt that I’ll ever get that brass loco built, but I’m having fun 
building an Arduino based control system for the trains and using the Sherline 
mill to make circuit boards.

Jerry Jankura
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On May 19, 2014, at 5:07 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:

 It's a 2Ghz or slower Pentium III, Socket 370 type. IIRC it takes PC100 
 or PC133 SDRAM, maximum of 2 gig.
 
 There was an optional PCI slot but to use that it couldn't have the 
 optical drive installed.
 
 I used to have one of those. Decent for web browsing, e-mail and not 
 much else. They were mainly marketed as POS systems and for office or 
 front desk machines.


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[Emc-users] Running EMC on older computers

2014-05-18 Thread toolznglue
Hi, Ray:

I’m running EMC V 8.x on a couple of Sony PCG-F430 notebook computers. These 
are 450 Mhz machines with 256 Mbytes of memory. Not particularly fast nor 
blessed with oodles of memory. I’ve a Sherline Mill and a Sherline Lathe. 
Currently, only the Mill runs CNC. I’m using Sherline’s motor mounts and their 
motors. The Motor Drive is a HobbyCNC “Pro” 4 axis unit; I’m only using three 
axes.

By EMC’s stated requirements, these machines don’t have enough memory to run 
EMC. By actual experience, they run Version 8 just fine. I’ve not been able to 
get Version 10 to run on anything. It seems that Linux starts up, but I get an 
error statement when I attempt to run EMC. Since V8 runs well, I’m not too 
worried about it. 

The nice thing is that, with the exception of the first machine that I bought 
new, these machines were from “buy it now” offerings on eBay and came quite 
cheap.

I’m also running EMC on a Cybernet Elite-II. This is a “computer in a keyboard” 
machine with 1 gig of memory. I’m not sure how fast the processor is. As with 
the Sony notebooks, Version 8 runs well; Version 10 gives me the same error as 
it did on the Sonys, so I know that the error is not due to insufficient memory.

All of these machines are set up to at least offer a dual boot - Linux or some 
version of Windows. In addition, since I play some with TurboCNC, the Windows 
selection also allows me to boot directly into unadulterated DOS with either 
Command or 4DOS as my command line interpreter.

Hope that helps.

Jerry Jankura
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[Emc-users] Fwd: Tool Shape

2014-04-20 Thread toolznglue


What are some of the open CAM software packages that are available? Preferably 
for a Mac but I can Windows as well.

  Unfortunately, LinuxCNC control software
 is light years ahead of open-source CAM software.  

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Re: [Emc-users] Automatic load of EMC on booting into Linux

2014-04-14 Thread toolznglue
Hi, Erik:

Thanks for the pointer on where to look. That gave me a starting point. In 
Ubuntu 8, it’s been changed to System-Preferences-Sessions and then select 
the appropriate tab.

Jerry Jankura
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On Apr 12, 2014, at 11:53 PM, Erik Christiansen dva...@internode.on.net wrote:

 Perhaps the easiest method is via the GUI:
 
 System - Preferences - Startup Applications - Add
 
 That'll start it at the right time, i.e. after gnome is up and running.
 


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[Emc-users] Automatic load of EMC on booting into Linux

2014-04-12 Thread toolznglue
Hi, Folks:

I’ve a couple of Sony PCG-F430 notebook computers. Underpowered as they are and 
also short of memory, they’re running EMC 8 quite well. One for my Sherline 
Mill and another for my Sherline Lathe. I’ve taken the time to customize EMC 
for each of the tools.

My question -

Is it possible to have Linux autoload EMC with the proper configuration 
whenever Linux is started on that computer? Something like the “startup” 
directory in Windows?

Thanks

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[Emc-users] EMC Configuration

2014-03-04 Thread toolznglue
Hi, Folks;

I’ve just joined this list, but have been using EMC for a few years.

I’m using Rel 2.3 and am attempting to use the configuration software. Of 
course, this is an iterative situation. I’m using the stepper configurator. I 
prefer to use the mini GUI and would like to allow an override of 100% (That 
is, allow me to double any of the defaults)

1. Is there any way to get the stepper configurator or some other utility to 
set the Display  Override settings in the .INI file? It’s no issue to 
continually edit the INI file, but it does get old after a while.

2. Barring that, is there any way to get the stepper configurator to simply 
ignore settings that it does not modify? It’d be nice to have the configurator 
read the INI file, modify those items which it allows the user to set, and then 
rewrite the INI file without reverting anything not changed to the default?

Thanks,

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