Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal - please review planned sequencing

2013-10-10 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Michael Haberler mai...@mah.priv.at wrote: please think through if this sequence sounds generally applicable, and consider my questions below. the current flow I am thinking of is this: pause sequence: - if running, and pause command is

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-10-09 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 08.10.2013 um 12:41 schrieb Michael Haberler mai...@mah.priv.at: Am 08.10.2013 um 09:07 schrieb Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net: On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 11:19:39 +0200, you wrote: Reminds me - must be able to toggle spindle off/on during pause. thats a good point, that would

[Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal - please review planned sequencing

2013-10-09 Thread Michael Haberler
please think through if this sequence sounds generally applicable, and consider my questions below. the current flow I am thinking of is this: pause sequence: - if running, and pause command is issued: save the position where pause was detected as initial-pause-position

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal - please review planned sequencing

2013-10-09 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 10/09/2013 02:02 PM, Michael Haberler wrote: please think through if this sequence sounds generally applicable, and consider my questions below. the current flow I am thinking of is this: pause sequence: - if running, and pause command is issued: save the position

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-10-08 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 11:19:39 +0200, you wrote: Reminds me - must be able to toggle spindle off/on during pause. thats a good point, that would likely also suggest at-speed before reentry if the spindle is turned on if we use the offset pose scheme this is how it could work for resume:

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-10-08 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 08.10.2013 um 09:07 schrieb Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net: On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 11:19:39 +0200, you wrote: Reminds me - must be able to toggle spindle off/on during pause. thats a good point, that would likely also suggest at-speed before reentry if the spindle is turned on

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-10-07 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013 18:10:18 -0400, you wrote: Just keep in mind that for a lathe, Z is not likely to be the last move of a restore. Hi Steve, as you probably know Mach has the option to choose, and to set a safe height. Unfortunately any axis chosen may not be the right one for that job. I have

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-10-07 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 07.10.2013 um 09:08 schrieb Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net: On Sun, 6 Oct 2013 18:10:18 -0400, you wrote: Just keep in mind that for a lathe, Z is not likely to be the last move of a restore. Hi Steve, as you probably know Mach has the option to choose, and to set a safe

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-10-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 October 2013 03:00, TJoseph Powderly tjt...@gmail.com wrote: restated: the ToolAxis is an alternative to G17 G18 G19 but it infers the axis that is normal to the path plane, thats a bit different thinking than G17/18/19 I think that breaks for lathes where arcs are in XZ but the tool

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-10-06 Thread Michael Haberler
Keyboard jogging during pause now works: http://youtu.be/HNuu_D4X_EM The HAL jogging pins are removed since not needed anymore. Hitting resume inserts the return move at the last jog speed. Integration is pending some work on the underlying joints_axes3 branch. This is not in enduser-usable

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-10-06 Thread Ricardo Moscoloni
this is great!, could you think adding a pin that defines last resuming move along an axis (z on a mill as an examlple), to avoid collisions will be useful? As cartesian as my brain could think, moves will be: hit pause jog(here you have to avoid collisions!) hit resume auto move to last x,y last

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-10-06 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 06.10.2013 um 23:09 schrieb Ricardo Moscoloni rmoscol...@gmail.com: this is great!, could you think adding a pin that defines last resuming move along an axis (z on a mill as an examlple), to avoid collisions will be useful? As cartesian as my brain could think, moves will be: hit

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-10-06 Thread Steve Stallings
Am 06.10.2013 um 23:09 schrieb Ricardo Moscoloni rmoscol...@gmail.com: this is great!, could you think adding a pin that defines last resuming move along an axis (z on a mill as an examlple), to avoid collisions will be useful? As cartesian as my brain could think, moves will be:

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-10-06 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 07.10.2013 um 00:10 schrieb Steve Stallings steve...@newsguy.com: Am 06.10.2013 um 23:09 schrieb Ricardo Moscoloni rmoscol...@gmail.com: this is great!, could you think adding a pin that defines last resuming move along an axis (z on a mill as an examlple), to avoid collisions will

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-10-06 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 10/06/2013 01:34 PM, Michael Haberler wrote: Keyboard jogging during pause now works: http://youtu.be/HNuu_D4X_EM The HAL jogging pins are removed since not needed anymore. Hitting resume inserts the return move at the last jog speed. Integration is pending some work on the underlying

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-10-06 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 10/06/2013 04:56 PM, Michael Haberler wrote: Am 06.10.2013 um 23:09 schrieb Ricardo Moscoloni rmoscol...@gmail.com: this is great!, could you think adding a pin that defines last resuming move along an axis (z on a mill as an examlple), to avoid collisions will be useful? As cartesian

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-09-27 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 27.09.2013 um 06:37 schrieb Chris Morley chrisinnana...@hotmail.com: From: mai...@mah.priv.at Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 02:16:56 +0200 To: st...@pilotltd.net; emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal Am 27.09.2013 um 00:57 schrieb Steve

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-09-27 Thread Marius Liebenberg
27.09.2013 um 06:37 schrieb Chris Morley chrisinnana...@hotmail.com: From: mai...@mah.priv.at Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 02:16:56 +0200 To: st...@pilotltd.net; emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal Am 27.09.2013 um 00:57 schrieb Steve Blackmore st

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-09-27 Thread Michael Haberler
@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal Am 27.09.2013 um 00:57 schrieb Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 23:20:43 +0200, you wrote: - changing offsets or tool diameter will NOT be part of the release targeted work - this is just too many moving parts

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-09-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 September 2013 08:33, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: Yes man we are still listening although we might not have a clue as to what you are talking about. It sounds like you have the problem and solution pretty much under control there. Step 1) Increase the length of the

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-09-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 September 2013 07:59, Michael Haberler mai...@mah.priv.at wrote: - move offset application to motion This might happen as a natural consequence of the tool-table work. (I stress, _might_) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-09-27 Thread Dave Cole
Step 1) Increase the length of the day to 36 hours to create the developer time required to do the coding. I'm thinking that altering the period of the earth's rotation may be beyond our reach... ;-) It might be easier for us to figure out how to get rid of that wasteful sleep thing we all

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-09-27 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 09/27/2013 04:24 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 27 September 2013 08:33, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: Yes man we are still listening although we might not have a clue as to what you are talking about. It sounds like you have the problem and solution pretty much under control

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-09-27 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 09:33:09 +0200, you wrote: Yes man we are still listening although we might not have a clue as to what you are talking about. It sounds like you have the problem and solution pretty much under control there. Yea - I was lost too :) In simple language, movement during pause

[Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-09-26 Thread TJoseph Powderly
Hello, Would like to discuss adoption of JogWhilePaused at Next meeting. I often need to withdraw the tool from the cut to inspect cutter and work. Perhaps it began to sound different and make me worry about cutter. Maybe I see a clamp too close to tool path. I find the JogWhilePaused a great

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-09-26 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 09/26/2013 01:06 PM, TJoseph Powderly wrote: Hello, Would like to discuss adoption of JogWhilePaused at Next meeting. ... Thanks TomP ( tjtr33) More discussion is linked thru GladeVCP Toolchange tag

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-09-26 Thread Marius Liebenberg
TomP I second that. I put it on the agenda for the next meeting. I do agree that it is very necessary and not just a nice to have. Damn man even Mach can do it :) On 2013/09/26 08:10 PM, TJoseph Powderly wrote: On 09/26/2013 01:06 PM, TJoseph Powderly wrote: Hello, Would like to discuss

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-09-26 Thread Michael Haberler
Marius, Tom - Am 26.09.2013 um 21:08 schrieb Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za: TomP I second that. I put it on the agenda for the next meeting. I do agree that it is very necessary and not just a nice to have. Damn man even Mach can do it :) On 2013/09/26 08:10 PM, TJoseph

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-09-26 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 23:20:43 +0200, you wrote: - changing offsets or tool diameter will NOT be part of the release targeted work - this is just too many moving parts to be realistic to expect. - changing all UI's to use the new feature may not be realistic to expect either - only few UI's

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-09-26 Thread tcninja12
Hi all, I saw this topic and thought hey its been a month or so since someone complained about this. Many of the requests about the things they want to do during this pause is unrealistic. I think the solution is a tool check button that would move a distance away and turn off the spindle.You

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-09-26 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 27.09.2013 um 00:57 schrieb Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 23:20:43 +0200, you wrote: - changing offsets or tool diameter will NOT be part of the release targeted work - this is just too many moving parts to be realistic to expect. - changing all UI's to use

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-09-26 Thread Chris Morley
From: mai...@mah.priv.at Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 02:16:56 +0200 To: st...@pilotltd.net; emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal Am 27.09.2013 um 00:57 schrieb Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 23:20:43 +0200, you wrote