Re: [Emc-users] Progress, if I spell it right

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 21 July 2017 11:13:34 dave wrote:

> On 07/21/2017 07:31 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 21 July 2017 10:16:27 dave wrote:
> >
> > Except Gene wrote:
> >>> But another problem I have mentioned previously ate my lunch,
> >>> about 2 hours and some material yesterday while making the first 8
> >>> brass screws for the rear of the spindle spider. Axis couples the
> >>> 4 motion keys to the two teeny little tally eyeballs at the top of
> >>> the axis left control panel. So you can set the speed to creep,
> >>> run it to the reference position, and do a touch off which is
> >>> automatically applied to the last axis moved.
> >>>
> >>> But HAL doesn't!!! One must get close enough to the monitor to
> >>> see which axis has the focus, and fix it if its wrong before doing
> >>> the touch off.
> >>>
> >>> So, after I had drilled and tapped the holes in the alu ring, I am
> >>> making the brass bolts to fit those tapped holes. We badly need a
> >>> coupling mechanism between the motion.axis-N-jog-enable, and those
> >>> buttons tallying that in the axis display.
> >>>
> >>> Driving the machine with my dials doesn't tell axis I just moved
> >>> Z, which is required with the tool change since 3 tools are
> >>> involved. So after very carefully getting X set so the threads I
> >>> made fit rather snuggly, at about bolt 5 I didn't notice the teeny
> >>> dot was in the wrong circle, and did a z touch off to my very
> >>> carefully set X offset.
> >>>
> >>> At the very least, the touch-off box needs one more button to
> >>> 'undo' the last touch-off, so we can undo it, then select the
> >>> right little axis button, then touch-off the axis we intended to.
> >>> That would at least be a recovery path if the wrong axis was
> >>> touched off. As it is, the recovery to a usable state is putting
> >>> it back a bit bigger, manually cutting off the bad thread,
> >>> resetting the stickout, and an hour re-running the code while
> >>> touching X off about .05mm smaller at a time until it fits again.
> >>>
> >>> Thats frustrating to say it in mild terms. Very frustrating.  Fix
> >>> it, please. Its a much larger problem IMO than the MDI editors key
> >>> missfires. That can be tolerated, a bigger font for the MDI
> >>> commandline would help as it can place the cursor with care and a
> >>> stable mouse, but the wrong axis touch-off is 1000x the time and
> >>> material waster.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks all.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >>
> >> Rather than touch off to adjust; change the offset, very
> >> quantitative and fast.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >
> > Where Dave?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
> In TK it is Scripts -> set coordinates ... I just assumed (???) that
> axis would have a similar feature.

Actually gcode does: again the docs are quite lacking, too concise. Shows 
G92 axises, so I presume I could combine this into one program and put 
a: G92 z0.000 at the top of the file after setting the offset to put the 
first tool at the face of the stickout, then before turning the thread, 
G92 z-2.0374 (mm's) in just after a tool change. Ditto for the cutoff 
tool.

I'm finding either the head isn't aligned, or I need to rotate the coords 
around the non-existent y axis by half a degree to compensate for the 
taper the flexability of the brass stickout when its been reduced to a 
hair less than 8mm's. I am finding the end of the screw is a couple thou 
bigger than at the thread end near the hex cap. I can do that with a 
g33.1, but g76 can't other than with the L2 and an E length=length of 
thread - one thread pitch.  But thats way more comp than needed for 
this. For a 21mm long thread, my calipers show about a 3 thou diff.

The next 4 screws should have around 25 to 30 mm's of thread, depending 
on the size of the pipe I can src. But the weather is so black 
headlights on is an excellent idea. Noisy too, and some wet.

Different question now. I've been studying up on the tool table, and what 
I am seeing seems to indicate that at least for common turning tools, a 
jig for setting the cutters stickout applicable to a box of loose tool 
holders, would be handy.  What method do most of you use so that a dull 
tool can be removed from the QC holder, sharpened or rechipped, and 
returned to the tool holder with exactly the same stickout it had when 
it was last mounted and put to use. URL's to pix of what works best in 
your shop would be nice.

Thanks a bunch everybody.

> Dave
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Re: [Emc-users] Progress, if I spell it right

[Sebastian Kuzminsky]

On 07/21/2017 10:28 AM, Ken Strauss wrote:

Of course it is the operator's responsibility to do the right thing and I
hate software that makes it difficult/impossible to make my own decisions.
That said, an undo button would be really nice!


An undo stack for touch-off would be a good addition to our GUIs.


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Re: [Emc-users] Progress, if I spell it right

[Ken Strauss]

> -Original Message-
> From: John Kasunich [mailto:jmkasun...@fastmail.fm]
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 12:00 PM
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Progress, if I spell it right
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017, at 08:56 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > But another problem I have mentioned previously ate my lunch, about 2
> > hours and some material yesterday while making the first 8 brass
> > screws for the rear of the spindle spider. Axis couples the 4 motion
> > keys to the two teeny little tally eyeballs at the top of the axis
> > left control panel. So you can set the speed to creep, run it to the
> > reference position, and do a touch off which is automatically applied
> > to the last axis moved.
> >
> > But HAL doesn't!!! One must get close enough to the monitor to see
> > which axis has the focus, and fix it if its wrong before doing the
> > touch off.
> >
>
> I have accidentally touched off the wrong axis before, and I agree that it
is very
> frustrating.  But I don't blame the software.  Sure, it might be
_convenient_ for
> the touch-off dialog to default to whatever axis was moved last.  But that
is
> only a convenience.  For example, suppose I'm trying to get a lathe tool
> touched off.  I might use jogging or MDI to take a light cut, then jog (or
MDI)
> the Z axis to get the tool clear _without_ moving X.  Then I can get out
the
> micrometer, measure the diameter I just cut, and touch off X accordingly.
>
> Note that I moved Z last but want to touch off X
>
> After accidentally touching off the wrong axis once or twice I learned
that it is
> MY JOB to make sure I'm touching off the right axis.  The software can't
read
> my mind.  Sure, I _often_ want to touch off the last axis I moved, but not
> _always_
>
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>   jmkasun...@fastmail.fm

Of course it is the operator's responsibility to do the right thing and I
hate software that makes it difficult/impossible to make my own decisions.
That said, an undo button would be really nice!



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Re: [Emc-users] Progress, if I spell it right

[John Kasunich]

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017, at 08:56 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> But another problem I have mentioned previously ate my lunch, about 2 
> hours and some material yesterday while making the first 8 brass screws 
> for the rear of the spindle spider. Axis couples the 4 motion keys to 
> the two teeny little tally eyeballs at the top of the axis left control 
> panel. So you can set the speed to creep, run it to the reference 
> position, and do a touch off which is automatically applied to the last 
> axis moved.
> 
> But HAL doesn't!!! One must get close enough to the monitor to see 
> which axis has the focus, and fix it if its wrong before doing the touch 
> off.
> 

I have accidentally touched off the wrong axis before, and I agree that
it is very frustrating.  But I don't blame the software.  Sure, it might be
_convenient_ for the touch-off dialog to default to whatever axis was
moved last.  But that is only a convenience.  For example, suppose I'm
trying to get a lathe tool touched off.  I might use jogging or MDI to
take a light cut, then jog (or MDI) the Z axis to get the tool clear 
_without_ moving X.  Then I can get out the micrometer, measure the
diameter I just cut, and touch off X accordingly.

Note that I moved Z last but want to touch off X

After accidentally touching off the wrong axis once or twice I learned 
that it is MY JOB to make sure I'm touching off the right axis.  The
software can't read my mind.  Sure, I _often_ want to touch off the
last axis I moved, but not _always_

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Re: [Emc-users] Progress, if I spell it right

[dave]

On 07/21/2017 07:31 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:

On Friday 21 July 2017 10:16:27 dave wrote:
Except Gene wrote:

But another problem I have mentioned previously ate my lunch, about
2 hours and some material yesterday while making the first 8 brass
screws for the rear of the spindle spider. Axis couples the 4 motion
keys to the two teeny little tally eyeballs at the top of the axis
left control panel. So you can set the speed to creep, run it to the
reference position, and do a touch off which is automatically
applied to the last axis moved.

But HAL doesn't!!! One must get close enough to the monitor to
see which axis has the focus, and fix it if its wrong before doing
the touch off.

So, after I had drilled and tapped the holes in the alu ring, I am
making the brass bolts to fit those tapped holes. We badly need a
coupling mechanism between the motion.axis-N-jog-enable, and those
buttons tallying that in the axis display.

Driving the machine with my dials doesn't tell axis I just moved Z,
which is required with the tool change since 3 tools are involved.
So after very carefully getting X set so the threads I made fit
rather snuggly, at about bolt 5 I didn't notice the teeny dot was in
the wrong circle, and did a z touch off to my very carefully set X
offset.

At the very least, the touch-off box needs one more button to 'undo'
the last touch-off, so we can undo it, then select the right little
axis button, then touch-off the axis we intended to. That would at
least be a recovery path if the wrong axis was touched off. As it
is, the recovery to a usable state is putting it back a bit bigger,
manually cutting off the bad thread, resetting the stickout, and an
hour re-running the code while touching X off about .05mm smaller at
a time until it fits again.

Thats frustrating to say it in mild terms. Very frustrating.  Fix
it, please. Its a much larger problem IMO than the MDI editors key
missfires. That can be tolerated, a bigger font for the MDI
commandline would help as it can place the cursor with care and a
stable mouse, but the wrong axis touch-off is 1000x the time and
material waster.

Thanks all.

Cheers, Gene Heskett

Rather than touch off to adjust; change the offset, very quantitative
and fast.

Dave


Where Dave?

Thank you.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
In TK it is Scripts -> set coordinates ... I just assumed (???) that 
axis would have a similar feature.


Dave

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Re: [Emc-users] Progress, if I spell it right

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 21 July 2017 10:16:27 dave wrote:
Except Gene wrote:
> > But another problem I have mentioned previously ate my lunch, about
> > 2 hours and some material yesterday while making the first 8 brass
> > screws for the rear of the spindle spider. Axis couples the 4 motion
> > keys to the two teeny little tally eyeballs at the top of the axis
> > left control panel. So you can set the speed to creep, run it to the
> > reference position, and do a touch off which is automatically
> > applied to the last axis moved.
> >
> > But HAL doesn't!!! One must get close enough to the monitor to
> > see which axis has the focus, and fix it if its wrong before doing
> > the touch off.
> >
> > So, after I had drilled and tapped the holes in the alu ring, I am
> > making the brass bolts to fit those tapped holes. We badly need a
> > coupling mechanism between the motion.axis-N-jog-enable, and those
> > buttons tallying that in the axis display.
> >
> > Driving the machine with my dials doesn't tell axis I just moved Z,
> > which is required with the tool change since 3 tools are involved.
> > So after very carefully getting X set so the threads I made fit
> > rather snuggly, at about bolt 5 I didn't notice the teeny dot was in
> > the wrong circle, and did a z touch off to my very carefully set X
> > offset.
> >
> > At the very least, the touch-off box needs one more button to 'undo'
> > the last touch-off, so we can undo it, then select the right little
> > axis button, then touch-off the axis we intended to. That would at
> > least be a recovery path if the wrong axis was touched off. As it
> > is, the recovery to a usable state is putting it back a bit bigger,
> > manually cutting off the bad thread, resetting the stickout, and an
> > hour re-running the code while touching X off about .05mm smaller at
> > a time until it fits again.
> >
> > Thats frustrating to say it in mild terms. Very frustrating.  Fix
> > it, please. Its a much larger problem IMO than the MDI editors key
> > missfires. That can be tolerated, a bigger font for the MDI
> > commandline would help as it can place the cursor with care and a
> > stable mouse, but the wrong axis touch-off is 1000x the time and
> > material waster.
> >
> > Thanks all.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
> Rather than touch off to adjust; change the offset, very quantitative
> and fast.
>
> Dave
>
Where Dave?

Thank you.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] Progress, if I spell it right

[dave]

On 07/21/2017 05:56 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:

On Friday 21 July 2017 02:25:50 Phillip Carter wrote:


Seems like a problem in jessie



Interesting. My take on it is that its something related to the initial
key assignments in the .ini file, where one can scramble the key vs axis
moved. This was because the config I started with was missing one of
these, so the keys were scrambled:

[TRAJ]
COORDINATES =   X Z

and
[KINS]
KINEMATICS  =   trivkins coordinates=XZ

Once those were added to the .ini file, that behaved itself.

Perhaps the MDI commandline editor (someone mentioned vi but that comes
with a huge load of baggage for a one line editor) code missed out on
those key coupling assignments?


On 20/7/17 11:20 pm, Gene Heskett wrote:

On Thursday 20 July 2017 03:41:17 Chris Albertson wrote:

Gene,

Try h, j, k, l keys if the arrow keys don't work.VI was created
LONG ago back when arrow keys were a luxury item.   The old "hjkl"
still should work for you.

FWIW Chris, those didn't work either.

But another problem I have mentioned previously ate my lunch, about 2
hours and some material yesterday while making the first 8 brass screws
for the rear of the spindle spider. Axis couples the 4 motion keys to
the two teeny little tally eyeballs at the top of the axis left control
panel. So you can set the speed to creep, run it to the reference
position, and do a touch off which is automatically applied to the last
axis moved.

But HAL doesn't!!! One must get close enough to the monitor to see
which axis has the focus, and fix it if its wrong before doing the touch
off.

So, after I had drilled and tapped the holes in the alu ring, I am making
the brass bolts to fit those tapped holes. We badly need a coupling
mechanism between the motion.axis-N-jog-enable, and those buttons
tallying that in the axis display.

Driving the machine with my dials doesn't tell axis I just moved Z, which
is required with the tool change since 3 tools are involved. So after
very carefully getting X set so the threads I made fit rather snuggly,
at about bolt 5 I didn't notice the teeny dot was in the wrong circle,
and did a z touch off to my very carefully set X offset.

At the very least, the touch-off box needs one more button to 'undo' the
last touch-off, so we can undo it, then select the right little axis
button, then touch-off the axis we intended to. That would at least be a
recovery path if the wrong axis was touched off. As it is, the recovery
to a usable state is putting it back a bit bigger, manually cutting off
the bad thread, resetting the stickout, and an hour re-running the code
while touching X off about .05mm smaller at a time until it fits again.

Thats frustrating to say it in mild terms. Very frustrating.  Fix it,
please. Its a much larger problem IMO than the MDI editors key
missfires. That can be tolerated, a bigger font for the MDI commandline
would help as it can place the cursor with care and a stable mouse, but
the wrong axis touch-off is 1000x the time and material waster.

Thanks all.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
Rather than touch off to adjust; change the offset, very quantitative 
and fast.


Dave

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Re: [Emc-users] Progress, if I spell it right

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 21 July 2017 02:25:50 Phillip Carter wrote:

> Seems like a problem in jessie
> 
>
Interesting. My take on it is that its something related to the initial 
key assignments in the .ini file, where one can scramble the key vs axis 
moved. This was because the config I started with was missing one of 
these, so the keys were scrambled:

[TRAJ]
COORDINATES =   X Z

and
[KINS]
KINEMATICS  =   trivkins coordinates=XZ

Once those were added to the .ini file, that behaved itself.

Perhaps the MDI commandline editor (someone mentioned vi but that comes 
with a huge load of baggage for a one line editor) code missed out on 
those key coupling assignments?

> On 20/7/17 11:20 pm, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 20 July 2017 03:41:17 Chris Albertson wrote:
> >> Gene,
> >>
> >> Try h, j, k, l keys if the arrow keys don't work.VI was created
> >> LONG ago back when arrow keys were a luxury item.   The old "hjkl"
> >> still should work for you.

FWIW Chris, those didn't work either.

But another problem I have mentioned previously ate my lunch, about 2 
hours and some material yesterday while making the first 8 brass screws 
for the rear of the spindle spider. Axis couples the 4 motion keys to 
the two teeny little tally eyeballs at the top of the axis left control 
panel. So you can set the speed to creep, run it to the reference 
position, and do a touch off which is automatically applied to the last 
axis moved.

But HAL doesn't!!! One must get close enough to the monitor to see 
which axis has the focus, and fix it if its wrong before doing the touch 
off.

So, after I had drilled and tapped the holes in the alu ring, I am making 
the brass bolts to fit those tapped holes. We badly need a coupling 
mechanism between the motion.axis-N-jog-enable, and those buttons 
tallying that in the axis display.

Driving the machine with my dials doesn't tell axis I just moved Z, which 
is required with the tool change since 3 tools are involved. So after 
very carefully getting X set so the threads I made fit rather snuggly, 
at about bolt 5 I didn't notice the teeny dot was in the wrong circle, 
and did a z touch off to my very carefully set X offset.

At the very least, the touch-off box needs one more button to 'undo' the 
last touch-off, so we can undo it, then select the right little axis 
button, then touch-off the axis we intended to. That would at least be a 
recovery path if the wrong axis was touched off. As it is, the recovery 
to a usable state is putting it back a bit bigger, manually cutting off 
the bad thread, resetting the stickout, and an hour re-running the code 
while touching X off about .05mm smaller at a time until it fits again.

Thats frustrating to say it in mild terms. Very frustrating.  Fix it, 
please. Its a much larger problem IMO than the MDI editors key 
missfires. That can be tolerated, a bigger font for the MDI commandline 
would help as it can place the cursor with care and a stable mouse, but 
the wrong axis touch-off is 1000x the time and material waster.

Thanks all.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] Progress, if I spell it right

[Phillip Carter]

Seems like a problem in jessie 




On 20/7/17 11:20 pm, Gene Heskett wrote:

On Thursday 20 July 2017 03:41:17 Chris Albertson wrote:


Gene,

Try h, j, k, l keys if the arrow keys don't work.VI was created
LONG ago back when arrow keys were a luxury item.   The old "hjkl"
still should work for you.


I'll see if I can remember to give them a try.


It is un intuitive at first then you get into it and it is faster than
using arrow keys because you don't need to move your hand   HL is left
right JK is u down.

Its only half of them, Chris. The up-down arrows work fine. Focus is
fubared too, forcing a click in the mdi line box before a return is
recognized. One must develop two different habits to make productive use
of the armhf-jessie install.  And its a mental distraction from ones
train of thought that disturbs concentration and creativity.

The hereafter problem. :)
  
Cheers, Gene Heskett


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Re: [Emc-users] Progress, if I spell it right

[Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users]

On Thursday, July 20, 2017, 7:24:37 AM MDT, Gene Heskett  
wrote:

On Thursday 20 July 2017 03:41:17 Chris Albertson wrote:

> Gene,
>
> Try h, j, k, l keys if the arrow keys don't work.    VI was created
> LONG ago back when arrow keys were a luxury item.  The old "hjkl"
> still should work for you.
>
I'll see if I can remember to give them a try.

> It is un intuitive at first then you get into it and it is faster than
> using arrow keys because you don't need to move your hand  HL is left
> right JK is u down.

Its only half of them, Chris. The up-down arrows work fine. Focus is 
fubared too, forcing a click in the mdi line box before a return is 
recognized. One must develop two different habits to make productive use 
of the armhf-jessie install.  And its a mental distraction from ones 
train of thought that disturbs concentration and creativity.

The hereafter problem. :)
 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Seems to be a common problem in many open source projects where contributors 
use different user interface conventions for the same type of input. I use 
ZenCart on my website and it's a nightmare. Options may be tagged with 
Enable/Disable, 1/0, On/Off, or True/False. Someone has to grab the reins and 
say "Everyone WILL use THIS term for this thing."
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Re: [Emc-users] Progress, if I spell it right

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 20 July 2017 08:02:03 Trent Hejazi wrote:

> try to use the finest thread pitch you can tap for on the  cat head
> bolts. it will make centering the barrel easier.

For thread strength in 1/8" thick alu, I have 8 or 10mm in mind. At 10mm, 
I may have room for the internal threading tool, and that removes the 
tp/mm problem as I can make them at 50 tpi. But it would be a heck of a 
lot faster just to use the 10mm tap(s) I have. If I have a 10x1 that 
should be usable. My 10's are more than likely 1.25mm pitch.  Picky but 
usable.  The cat head can use the same thread, but it will be steel.

And I guess I'd better get to it.

Thanks for the reminder Trent.

[...]

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Re: [Emc-users] Progress, if I spell it right

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 20 July 2017 05:09:36 andy pugh wrote:

> On 20 July 2017 at 05:20, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> > Measuring the barrel, I'll
> > need to round up some 2" ID pipe about 11" long with 1/4" walls to
> > make that cat head.
>
> That seems rather long.
> Is the spindle bore big enough to pass the barrel down it and use a
> second 4-bolt steady on the left-hand end?

Yes, but I have to make its 8 bolts, 4 for clamping it on the end of the 
spindle, and 4 more to clamp the small or larger end of the barrel while 
doing the muzzle finishing. If the barrel is just at those bolts, and an 
11" long cathead (which will need 4 more bolts, totalling 12) is clamped 
in the chuck, I'll have around 2" of barrel sticking out of the cathead. 
If, at some time in the future I ever work on a shorter barrel, 
doubtfull because its now the only centerfire in my cabinet and I've no 
plans to purchase another, then I'll have to shorten the cathead to 
suit. But at my years its a 99.999% chance its a one time use.

I should make a box/crate and label it for the auction should I fall over 
before the missus. It will contain all the tools I've made and used once 
so far, specifically for a Enfield P-17.

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Re: [Emc-users] Progress, if I spell it right

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 20 July 2017 03:41:17 Chris Albertson wrote:

> Gene,
>
> Try h, j, k, l keys if the arrow keys don't work.VI was created
> LONG ago back when arrow keys were a luxury item.   The old "hjkl"
> still should work for you.
>
I'll see if I can remember to give them a try.

> It is un intuitive at first then you get into it and it is faster than
> using arrow keys because you don't need to move your hand   HL is left
> right JK is u down.

Its only half of them, Chris. The up-down arrows work fine. Focus is 
fubared too, forcing a click in the mdi line box before a return is 
recognized. One must develop two different habits to make productive use 
of the armhf-jessie install.  And its a mental distraction from ones 
train of thought that disturbs concentration and creativity.

The hereafter problem. :)
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Progress, if I spell it right

[Trent Hejazi]

try to use the finest thread pitch you can tap for on the  cat head bolts.
 it will make centering the barrel easier.

On Jul 19, 2017 11:25 PM, "Gene Heskett"  wrote:

> Greetings all; I am being attacked by UPS and USPS today.
> I got the metal I'd ordered today, a 1/4", 12x48 sheet of 6061t6, a 14"
> piece of 1/2x1 brass for steady rest shoes, and a pair of 1/2" hex brass
> bars to make cathead & spider bolts out of.  Measuring the barrel, I'll
> need to round up some 2" ID pipe about 11" long with 1/4" walls to make
> that cat head.
>
> I did get the end of the action squared up, and shaved a couple thou off
> the face of the bolt to square that up.  And with the 6061 plate I can
> make the dro mount for the tailstock.
>
> Would have made more progress but it was 107F in the shop when I pulled
> the door open with the hex brass in my hand, but I believe it will be
> easier and faster to make those screws in the bigger lathe with its 3
> jaw chuck than fool with TLM putting the 3 jaw back on it, thats  a pita
> trying to get those 6mm nuts re-started on the studs sticking thru the
> flange on TLM's spindle. Got about a dozen of those screws to make. 4
> ea, 3 different lengths.
>
> I got a universal arbor 2 or 3 days back, and a 5" diameter, 6000 grit
> diamond disk that should serve as a tool sharpener came in today too.
> Results TBD.
>
> Still waiting on the new live center.
>
> Anybody with some 75F weather to spare, I sure could use a train load of
> it here in WV.   My icemaker is being overworked.
>
> I do have one problem with the r-pi 3b and LCNC.  The arrow keys,
> left-right, work every place else but in the MDI cmdline box. So editing
> a line called back has to be done by clicking after the recalled line,
> then backspacing to where the change needs to be, and retyping the rest
> of the line erased by the backspace key.
>
> This has been a problem for the last 7 or 8 updates.  Works normally on
> the rest of the x86 machines. Swapping keyboards has no effect. BTDT.
>
> Thanks everybody.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> Genes Web page 
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Re: [Emc-users] Progress, if I spell it right

[andy pugh]

On 20 July 2017 at 05:20, Gene Heskett  wrote:

> Measuring the barrel, I'll
> need to round up some 2" ID pipe about 11" long with 1/4" walls to make
> that cat head.

That seems rather long.
Is the spindle bore big enough to pass the barrel down it and use a
second 4-bolt steady on the left-hand end?

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Re: [Emc-users] Progress, if I spell it right

[Chris Albertson]

Gene,

Try h, j, k, l keys if the arrow keys don't work.VI was created LONG
ago back when arrow keys were a luxury item.   The old "hjkl" still should
work for you.

It is un intuitive at first then you get into it and it is faster than
using arrow keys because you don't need to move your hand   HL is left
right JK is u down.



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[Emc-users] Progress, if I spell it right

[Gene Heskett]

Greetings all; I am being attacked by UPS and USPS today.
I got the metal I'd ordered today, a 1/4", 12x48 sheet of 6061t6, a 14" 
piece of 1/2x1 brass for steady rest shoes, and a pair of 1/2" hex brass 
bars to make cathead & spider bolts out of.  Measuring the barrel, I'll 
need to round up some 2" ID pipe about 11" long with 1/4" walls to make 
that cat head.

I did get the end of the action squared up, and shaved a couple thou off 
the face of the bolt to square that up.  And with the 6061 plate I can 
make the dro mount for the tailstock.

Would have made more progress but it was 107F in the shop when I pulled 
the door open with the hex brass in my hand, but I believe it will be 
easier and faster to make those screws in the bigger lathe with its 3 
jaw chuck than fool with TLM putting the 3 jaw back on it, thats  a pita 
trying to get those 6mm nuts re-started on the studs sticking thru the 
flange on TLM's spindle. Got about a dozen of those screws to make. 4 
ea, 3 different lengths.

I got a universal arbor 2 or 3 days back, and a 5" diameter, 6000 grit 
diamond disk that should serve as a tool sharpener came in today too. 
Results TBD.

Still waiting on the new live center.

Anybody with some 75F weather to spare, I sure could use a train load of 
it here in WV.   My icemaker is being overworked.

I do have one problem with the r-pi 3b and LCNC.  The arrow keys, 
left-right, work every place else but in the MDI cmdline box. So editing 
a line called back has to be done by clicking after the recalled line, 
then backspacing to where the change needs to be, and retyping the rest 
of the line erased by the backspace key.

This has been a problem for the last 7 or 8 updates.  Works normally on 
the rest of the x86 machines. Swapping keyboards has no effect. BTDT.

Thanks everybody.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

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