Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:31 PM, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.comwrote: I forgot to post these.. (Thanks dad!) http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/Fest2013/ random pictures from the fest. I hope to organize them in the future. sam Sam, Great pics! Anybody happen to get a group shot? Be nice to place names with all the faces. Saw more than a few gray hairs in them there pictures... VBSEG Mark -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
On 26 June 2013 03:57, Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com wrote: How about a who's who description so we can tell from the pictures who we are looking at. I am possibly the worst possible person to do this, as I can't even always remember my own name, but in a strict left-to right: 1301 Me, Jeff 1302 JohnM, Jeff, Stuart, JonE, Charles?, Seb, Matt, SteveS, ? 1303 ? ? JonE, ? Seb, Matt, Charles? SteveS ? 1305 Matt, Steve?, Tom? ChrisR, ? Seb, ?, JohnM, JohnK, Charles? 1309 ChrisR, Sam, ? ? NickS? Me, Jeff 3810 Stuart, ghostly ChrisR. 3814 Sam, Me, Stuart?, Peter 3816 ? JohnM, Matt, ? SteveB, ChrisM 3851 SteveS 3859 Peter, MichaelH, Stuart, Seb 3861 Peter, Stuart, TomP 3866 SteveB, Seb, ? SteveS, Me, Jeff, ChrisR 3869 Peter, Ari(L84supper), ? ChrisR 3878 TomP, PCW, StevS, JonE, Sam. 3884 TomP, KimK, Me, ? Ari, ?, JonE, PCW 3891 KimK 3940 ChrisM, SteveS, ?, Sam, PCW. No, I was right, I am not the one to be doing this. perhaps someone else feels like filling in he blanks and the many photos I skipped. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
1301 Andy Pugh, Jeff Epler 1302 John Morris, Jeff Epler, Dave Bagby, Jon Elson, Chris Radek, Ken Lerman, Seb Kuzminsky, Matt Shaver, Steve Stallings, Tim Shaver 1303 Dave Bagby, Chris Radek, Jon Elson, Ken Lerman behind window frame, Seb, Matt Shaver, John Kasunich, Left arm of Michael Haberler, Charles Steinkuehler, Steve Stallings, Tim Shaver 1305 Matt, Dave Bagby, Tom Powderly, ChrisR, Ken Lerman, Seb, back of Mike Haberler, JohnM, JohnK, CharlesS 1309 ChrisR, SamS, reflection of Jon E, TimS, Andy P, JeffE 3806 MattS, Mike Haberler, JohnM, JonE, SamS 3807 SteveS 3810 StuartS, reflection of ChrisR. 3811 KenL, JonE, TomP, MattS, SebK, DaveB, CharlesS, JohnK, MikeH, Peter Jensen 3812 JonE, KenL, SebK, MattS, CharlesS, TomP, JohnK, PeterJ, DaveB 3813 AndyP, PeterJ, JeffE, CharlesS, Arty Ross, ChrisR 3814 SamS, AndyP, StuartS, PeterJ, JeffE, CharlesS, ArtyR, ChrisR 3816 ? JohnM, MattS, Kim Kirwan, ?, DaveB, ChrisM 3851 SteveS 3859 PeterJ, MichaelH, StuartS, SebK 3860 MattS, TimS 3861 PeterJ, StuartS, TomP 3862 CharlesS, MikeH behind Charles, PeterJ, StuartS, TomP, DaveB, SebK 3864 DaveB, SebK, JohnK, JeffE 3865 DaveB, SebK, JohnK, JeffE, ChrisR 3866 DaveB, SebK, JohnK, SteveS, AndyP, JeffE, ChrisR 3867 CharlesS, PeterJ 3869 PeterJ, Ari(L84supper), DaveB, JohnK 3870 MattS, TimS 3872 Ari, JohnK, SteveS, AndyP, JeffE 3873 PeterJ, CharlesS, StuartS, DaveB, Ari, JohnK, SteveS, AndyP, JeffE 3874 JeffE, SebK, AndyP, ChrisR, JohnK MattS, SamS 3875 MikeH, CharlesS, JonE, John 3877 SteveS, ArtyR, Peter Brenneman, JonE, ? 3878 TomP, PCW, SteveS, JonE, SamS. 3879 SteveS, JonE, SamS, PCW, TomP 3880 ArtyR, StuartS, SamS 3884 TomP, KimK, AndyP, SebK, Ari, ArtyR, JonE, PCW, TimS 3885 JohnM, MattS, JeffE, MikeH, PeterJ, DaveB, ChrisR, SteveS, JohnK, ChrisM 3886 SamS, AndyP, TomP, ArtyR, KimK, JonE 3888 SamS, AndyP, TomP 3889 SamS, TomP, AndyP 3890 KimK 3891 KimK 3894 JeffE, SamS, SteveS 3895 SamS 3898 JeffE, SteveS 3899 JeffE, SteveS 3900 MattS, JeffE, SteveS, DaveB 3902 PCW, SebK, JohnK, SteveS, DaveB 3903 MattS, AndyP, PCW, back of ChrisM, JonE, SebK 3904 DaveB, JohnK, SebK, StuartS, MattS, AndyP 3905 SamS, JeffE, MikeH 3906 Sams, PCW 3910 JonE, JeffE 3915 SamS, ChrisR, JohnM 3916 SamS, ChrisR, JohnM 3917 AndyP 3930 Preliminary circuit 3931 First revision 3932 ready for production 3936 ChrisM, SamS, JohnK, PCW, ChrisR 3937 HAPPY FACES 3938 ChrisM, SteveS, JohnK, SamS, PCW 3940 ChrisM, SteveS, JohnK, SamS, PCW 3941 JeffE, JonE, AndyP Looks as if the upside to carrying the camera is you don't get your picture taken. SamS? :) On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:19 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 June 2013 03:57, Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com wrote: How about a who's who description so we can tell from the pictures who we are looking at. I am possibly the worst possible person to do this, as I can't even always remember my own name, but in a strict left-to right: 1301 Me, Jeff 1302 JohnM, Jeff, Stuart, JonE, Charles?, Seb, Matt, SteveS, ? 1303 ? ? JonE, ? Seb, Matt, Charles? SteveS ? 1305 Matt, Steve?, Tom? ChrisR, ? Seb, ?, JohnM, JohnK, Charles? 1309 ChrisR, Sam, ? ? NickS? Me, Jeff 3810 Stuart, ghostly ChrisR. 3814 Sam, Me, Stuart?, Peter 3816 ? JohnM, Matt, ? SteveB, ChrisM 3851 SteveS 3859 Peter, MichaelH, Stuart, Seb 3861 Peter, Stuart, TomP 3866 SteveB, Seb, ? SteveS, Me, Jeff, ChrisR 3869 Peter, Ari(L84supper), ? ChrisR 3878 TomP, PCW, StevS, JonE, Sam. 3884 TomP, KimK, Me, ? Ari, ?, JonE, PCW 3891 KimK 3940 ChrisM, SteveS, ?, Sam, PCW. No, I was right, I am not the one to be doing this. perhaps someone else feels like filling in he blanks and the many photos I skipped. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Addressee is the intended audience. If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private correspondence. Thank you for honoring my wish. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: 1301 Andy Pugh, Jeff Epler 1302 John Morris, Jeff Epler, Dave Bagby, Jon Elson, Chris Radek, Ken snippage Crap. Anybody got the link again? I mistakenly deleted it. Mark -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
Darn, I wish I was there. 2013/6/26 Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com: On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: 1301 Andy Pugh, Jeff Epler 1302 John Morris, Jeff Epler, Dave Bagby, Jon Elson, Chris Radek, Ken snippage Crap. Anybody got the link again? I mistakenly deleted it. Mark -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/Fest2013/ -Original Message- From: Mark Wendt [mailto:wendt.m...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:56 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: 1301 Andy Pugh, Jeff Epler 1302 John Morris, Jeff Epler, Dave Bagby, Jon Elson, Chris Radek, Ken snippage Crap. Anybody got the link again? I mistakenly deleted it. Mark -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
Thanks Steve. I saw them suspenders in the pictures and just knew it had to be you. ;-) Mark On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Steve Stallings steve...@newsguy.comwrote: http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/Fest2013/ -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/Fest2013/ Alex -Original Message- From: Mark Wendt Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 3:55 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: 1301 Andy Pugh, Jeff Epler 1302 John Morris, Jeff Epler, Dave Bagby, Jon Elson, Chris Radek, Ken snippage Crap. Anybody got the link again? I mistakenly deleted it. Mark -- Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
Gentlemen, I think annual meetings are nice for everyone. A small developer/integrator meeting would be useful but if our annual meeting is understood to be a developer/integrator meeting then we won't have disappointed attendees. I believe people new to the LinuxCNC world benefit greatly by attending the developer/integrator meetings. Getting to know everyone is a great benefit. You learn a lot by listening and watching. All of the developers are available for questions from time to time and are very willing to answer questions. Just don't expect classes and organized events. The organized event is the meeting. That being said, I think it would be nice to have the meeting at another place next year - not that I mind hosting but a different venue will make it more convenient for some and possibly more interesting for all. Lacking a date and place by Nov 1 2013 I will set a date to have the meeting in Wichita next year. This time we will post it in all places so more can see it and plan for it. Any suggestions on the date are welcome. Maybe this message should be posted everywhere also. thanks Stuart On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Steve Stallings steve...@newsguy.comwrote: http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/Fest2013/ -Original Message- From: Mark Wendt [mailto:wendt.m...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:56 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: 1301 Andy Pugh, Jeff Epler 1302 John Morris, Jeff Epler, Dave Bagby, Jon Elson, Chris Radek, Ken snippage Crap. Anybody got the link again? I mistakenly deleted it. Mark -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Addressee is the intended audience. If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private correspondence. Thank you for honoring my wish. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting (Stuart Stevenson)
How would Michigan sound for a meeting? I only have two lathes up and running at the moment but I hope to have three and maybe a mill with a fourth axis up by next spring. I do not have a lot to offer as far as development knowledge but I am ready to help in any way possible. Jeff Johnson superiorroll.com Gentlemen, I think annual meetings are nice for everyone. A small developer/integrator meeting would be useful but if our annual meeting is understood to be a developer/integrator meeting then we won't have disappointed attendees. I believe people new to the LinuxCNC world benefit greatly by attending the developer/integrator meetings. Getting to know everyone is a great benefit. You learn a lot by listening and watching. All of the developers are available for questions from time to time and are very willing to answer questions. Just don't expect classes and organized events. The organized event is the meeting. That being said, I think it would be nice to have the meeting at another place next year - not that I mind hosting but a different venue will make it more convenient for some and possibly more interesting for all. Lacking a date and place by Nov 1 2013 I will set a date to have the meeting in Wichita next year. This time we will post it in all places so more can see it and plan for it. Any suggestions on the date are welcome. Maybe this message should be posted everywhere also. thanks Stuart -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
On 6/26/2013 10:26 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Lacking a date and place by Nov 1 2013 I will set a date to have the meeting in Wichita next year. This time we will post it in all places so more can see it and plan for it. Any suggestions on the date are welcome. Maybe this message should be posted everywhere also. thanks Stuart There are discussions underway by a few guys to resurrect the CNC workshop in Detroit next June. A hacker space is involved to be the site. It is early, but it is started. ron ginger -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
On 6/26/2013 10:26 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Lacking a date and place by Nov 1 2013 I will set a date to have the meeting in Wichita next year. This time we will post it in all places so more can see it and plan for it. Any suggestions on the date are welcome. Maybe this message should be posted everywhere also. thanks Stuart I'm talking to the other folks at my hackerspace/makerspace about hosting. I have no doubt that they'd be happy to do it. At TX/RX Labs, we have 6 different machines running LinuxCNC: 2 routers (3x4 and 2x2), a Bridgeport Series 1 CNC, a 3D printer (Mendel), an Emco CNC mini-Lathe, and a PCB mill plus a Powerhawk mill and Okuma lathe slated for future LCNC conversion. (Another member is bringing in another knee mill running LCNC this weekend.) We also teach classes on using LCNC at least twice a year. Our facility is approximately 16,000 sq/ft. Half is air-conditioned and includes a conference room with projector/screen, a classroom with 18 workstations, electronics bays, wireless internet, and a full kitchen. We're in Houston, so if you don't like the heat we could hold the meeting later or earlier in the year, we're a non-profit so exact dates are really flexible. But, on the many plus sides, Houston has more restaurants per capita than anywhere in the world (so good food is no problem), and the Labs are in the center of Houston, so they're all close. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Ron Ginger rongin...@roadrunner.comwrote: On 6/26/2013 10:26 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Lacking a date and place by Nov 1 2013 I will set a date to have the meeting in Wichita next year. This time we will post it in all places so more can see it and plan for it. Any suggestions on the date are welcome. Maybe this message should be posted everywhere also. thanks Stuart There are discussions underway by a few guys to resurrect the CNC workshop in Detroit next June. A hacker space is involved to be the site. It is early, but it is started. ron ginger -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
I like Houston. I have a cousin with a machine shop there. A man that used to develop and install MDSI's OpenCNC lives there. I would have a couple people to bring from Houston. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Chris Kelley tensait...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/26/2013 10:26 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Lacking a date and place by Nov 1 2013 I will set a date to have the meeting in Wichita next year. This time we will post it in all places so more can see it and plan for it. Any suggestions on the date are welcome. Maybe this message should be posted everywhere also. thanks Stuart I'm talking to the other folks at my hackerspace/makerspace about hosting. I have no doubt that they'd be happy to do it. At TX/RX Labs, we have 6 different machines running LinuxCNC: 2 routers (3x4 and 2x2), a Bridgeport Series 1 CNC, a 3D printer (Mendel), an Emco CNC mini-Lathe, and a PCB mill plus a Powerhawk mill and Okuma lathe slated for future LCNC conversion. (Another member is bringing in another knee mill running LCNC this weekend.) We also teach classes on using LCNC at least twice a year. Our facility is approximately 16,000 sq/ft. Half is air-conditioned and includes a conference room with projector/screen, a classroom with 18 workstations, electronics bays, wireless internet, and a full kitchen. We're in Houston, so if you don't like the heat we could hold the meeting later or earlier in the year, we're a non-profit so exact dates are really flexible. But, on the many plus sides, Houston has more restaurants per capita than anywhere in the world (so good food is no problem), and the Labs are in the center of Houston, so they're all close. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Ron Ginger rongin...@roadrunner.com wrote: On 6/26/2013 10:26 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Lacking a date and place by Nov 1 2013 I will set a date to have the meeting in Wichita next year. This time we will post it in all places so more can see it and plan for it. Any suggestions on the date are welcome. Maybe this message should be posted everywhere also. thanks Stuart There are discussions underway by a few guys to resurrect the CNC workshop in Detroit next June. A hacker space is involved to be the site. It is early, but it is started. ron ginger -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Addressee is the intended audience. If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private correspondence. Thank you for honoring my wish. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
OR. You can all come over to my house and work on/ play with my Cincinatti Arrow 500 retrofit and I will buy the Pizza and sodas LOL Connor lives nearby as do a lot of folks down in the Georgia area. Peace Pete On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: I like Houston. I have a cousin with a machine shop there. A man that used to develop and install MDSI's OpenCNC lives there. I would have a couple people to bring from Houston. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Chris Kelley tensait...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/26/2013 10:26 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Lacking a date and place by Nov 1 2013 I will set a date to have the meeting in Wichita next year. This time we will post it in all places so more can see it and plan for it. Any suggestions on the date are welcome. Maybe this message should be posted everywhere also. thanks Stuart I'm talking to the other folks at my hackerspace/makerspace about hosting. I have no doubt that they'd be happy to do it. At TX/RX Labs, we have 6 different machines running LinuxCNC: 2 routers (3x4 and 2x2), a Bridgeport Series 1 CNC, a 3D printer (Mendel), an Emco CNC mini-Lathe, and a PCB mill plus a Powerhawk mill and Okuma lathe slated for future LCNC conversion. (Another member is bringing in another knee mill running LCNC this weekend.) We also teach classes on using LCNC at least twice a year. Our facility is approximately 16,000 sq/ft. Half is air-conditioned and includes a conference room with projector/screen, a classroom with 18 workstations, electronics bays, wireless internet, and a full kitchen. We're in Houston, so if you don't like the heat we could hold the meeting later or earlier in the year, we're a non-profit so exact dates are really flexible. But, on the many plus sides, Houston has more restaurants per capita than anywhere in the world (so good food is no problem), and the Labs are in the center of Houston, so they're all close. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Ron Ginger rongin...@roadrunner.com wrote: On 6/26/2013 10:26 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Lacking a date and place by Nov 1 2013 I will set a date to have the meeting in Wichita next year. This time we will post it in all places so more can see it and plan for it. Any suggestions on the date are welcome. Maybe this message should be posted everywhere also. thanks Stuart There are discussions underway by a few guys to resurrect the CNC workshop in Detroit next June. A hacker space is involved to be the site. It is early, but it is started. ron ginger -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Addressee is the intended audience. If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private correspondence. Thank you for honoring my wish. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
Sounds like we may have more than a few places to choose from. Exciting. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com wrote: OR. You can all come over to my house and work on/ play with my Cincinatti Arrow 500 retrofit and I will buy the Pizza and sodas LOL Connor lives nearby as do a lot of folks down in the Georgia area. Peace Pete On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: I like Houston. I have a cousin with a machine shop there. A man that used to develop and install MDSI's OpenCNC lives there. I would have a couple people to bring from Houston. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Chris Kelley tensait...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/26/2013 10:26 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Lacking a date and place by Nov 1 2013 I will set a date to have the meeting in Wichita next year. This time we will post it in all places so more can see it and plan for it. Any suggestions on the date are welcome. Maybe this message should be posted everywhere also. thanks Stuart I'm talking to the other folks at my hackerspace/makerspace about hosting. I have no doubt that they'd be happy to do it. At TX/RX Labs, we have 6 different machines running LinuxCNC: 2 routers (3x4 and 2x2), a Bridgeport Series 1 CNC, a 3D printer (Mendel), an Emco CNC mini-Lathe, and a PCB mill plus a Powerhawk mill and Okuma lathe slated for future LCNC conversion. (Another member is bringing in another knee mill running LCNC this weekend.) We also teach classes on using LCNC at least twice a year. Our facility is approximately 16,000 sq/ft. Half is air-conditioned and includes a conference room with projector/screen, a classroom with 18 workstations, electronics bays, wireless internet, and a full kitchen. We're in Houston, so if you don't like the heat we could hold the meeting later or earlier in the year, we're a non-profit so exact dates are really flexible. But, on the many plus sides, Houston has more restaurants per capita than anywhere in the world (so good food is no problem), and the Labs are in the center of Houston, so they're all close. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Ron Ginger rongin...@roadrunner.com wrote: On 6/26/2013 10:26 AM, emc-users-request@lists.sourceforge.netwrote: Lacking a date and place by Nov 1 2013 I will set a date to have the meeting in Wichita next year. This time we will post it in all places so more can see it and plan for it. Any suggestions on the date are welcome. Maybe this message should be posted everywhere also. thanks Stuart There are discussions underway by a few guys to resurrect the CNC workshop in Detroit next June. A hacker space is involved to be the site. It is early, but it is started. ron ginger -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Addressee is the intended audience. If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private correspondence. Thank you for honoring my wish. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Addressee is the intended audience. If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or reading, and cease and desist
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
On 06/26/2013 12:19 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: ---snip --- A man that used to develop and install MDSI's OpenCNC lives there. --end snip -- would that be the gent who went on to head the US arm of PA? http://www.powerautomation.com/ thx TomP btw i've sent some direct emails thanking people at the fest but specific thanks to the crew at MPM and the good ol boys :) lke JohnK Seb Chris Jeff and the crew working on furtue platforms MichaelH CharlesS and the crew from Tormach, excellent dinners and 'all the rest' ( not a good enuf title ) thanks very much -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
Just heard back from the Executive Vice-President of TX/RX Labs about hosting. He said, Let's do it! So, Houston is definitely available any date y'all want. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.comwrote: Sounds like we may have more than a few places to choose from. Exciting. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com wrote: OR. You can all come over to my house and work on/ play with my Cincinatti Arrow 500 retrofit and I will buy the Pizza and sodas LOL Connor lives nearby as do a lot of folks down in the Georgia area. Peace Pete On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: I like Houston. I have a cousin with a machine shop there. A man that used to develop and install MDSI's OpenCNC lives there. I would have a couple people to bring from Houston. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Chris Kelley tensait...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/26/2013 10:26 AM, emc-users-request@lists.sourceforge.netwrote: Lacking a date and place by Nov 1 2013 I will set a date to have the meeting in Wichita next year. This time we will post it in all places so more can see it and plan for it. Any suggestions on the date are welcome. Maybe this message should be posted everywhere also. thanks Stuart I'm talking to the other folks at my hackerspace/makerspace about hosting. I have no doubt that they'd be happy to do it. At TX/RX Labs, we have 6 different machines running LinuxCNC: 2 routers (3x4 and 2x2), a Bridgeport Series 1 CNC, a 3D printer (Mendel), an Emco CNC mini-Lathe, and a PCB mill plus a Powerhawk mill and Okuma lathe slated for future LCNC conversion. (Another member is bringing in another knee mill running LCNC this weekend.) We also teach classes on using LCNC at least twice a year. Our facility is approximately 16,000 sq/ft. Half is air-conditioned and includes a conference room with projector/screen, a classroom with 18 workstations, electronics bays, wireless internet, and a full kitchen. We're in Houston, so if you don't like the heat we could hold the meeting later or earlier in the year, we're a non-profit so exact dates are really flexible. But, on the many plus sides, Houston has more restaurants per capita than anywhere in the world (so good food is no problem), and the Labs are in the center of Houston, so they're all close. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Ron Ginger rongin...@roadrunner.com wrote: On 6/26/2013 10:26 AM, emc-users-request@lists.sourceforge.netwrote : Lacking a date and place by Nov 1 2013 I will set a date to have the meeting in Wichita next year. This time we will post it in all places so more can see it and plan for it. Any suggestions on the date are welcome. Maybe this message should be posted everywhere also. thanks Stuart There are discussions underway by a few guys to resurrect the CNC workshop in Detroit next June. A hacker space is involved to be the site. It is early, but it is started. ron ginger -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Addressee is the intended audience. If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private correspondence. Thank you for honoring my wish. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store.
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
His name is Hans Platt. He has some products useful to a cnc builder/retrofit. On Jun 26, 2013 12:44 PM, TJoseph Powderly tjt...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/26/2013 12:19 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: ---snip --- A man that used to develop and install MDSI's OpenCNC lives there. --end snip -- would that be the gent who went on to head the US arm of PA? http://www.powerautomation.com/ thx TomP btw i've sent some direct emails thanking people at the fest but specific thanks to the crew at MPM and the good ol boys :) lke JohnK Seb Chris Jeff and the crew working on furtue platforms MichaelH CharlesS and the crew from Tormach, excellent dinners and 'all the rest' ( not a good enuf title ) thanks very much -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
On 06/26/2013 12:58 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: His name is Hans Platt. He has some products useful to a cnc builder/retrofit. thats the guy, i worked with him at RDS in Broken Arrow thx! -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013, sam sokolik wrote: Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:09:11 -0500 From: sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting First off - Thank you Stuart you are more than generous. Both dad and I had a wonderful time at the fest. I hope we can keep this up more often. 3 years was way too long. Let me echo that. Stuart was a wonderful host and it was great to finally get to meet people I have cooresponded with for years. Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
I forgot to post these.. (Thanks dad!) http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/Fest2013/ random pictures from the fest. I hope to organize them in the future. sam On 06/25/2013 03:38 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: On Mon, 24 Jun 2013, sam sokolik wrote: Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:09:11 -0500 From: sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting First off - Thank you Stuart you are more than generous. Both dad and I had a wonderful time at the fest. I hope we can keep this up more often. 3 years was way too long. Let me echo that. Stuart was a wonderful host and it was great to finally get to meet people I have cooresponded with for years. Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
Sam, Thanks for posting the pictures for us poor bastards who were not able to attend. How about a who's who description so we can tell from the pictures who we are looking at. I only could make out two nameplates in all those pictures LOLpeace Pete On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:31 PM, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.comwrote: I forgot to post these.. (Thanks dad!) http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/Fest2013/ random pictures from the fest. I hope to organize them in the future. sam On 06/25/2013 03:38 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: On Mon, 24 Jun 2013, sam sokolik wrote: Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:09:11 -0500 From: sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting First off - Thank you Stuart you are more than generous. Both dad and I had a wonderful time at the fest. I hope we can keep this up more often. 3 years was way too long. Let me echo that. Stuart was a wonderful host and it was great to finally get to meet people I have cooresponded with for years. Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
On Tuesday 25 June 2013 23:28:15 Pete Matos did opine: Sam, Thanks for posting the pictures for us poor bastards who were not able to attend. How about a who's who description so we can tell from the pictures who we are looking at. I only could make out two nameplates in all those pictures LOLpeace Pete Ditto here Pete. Some captions to identify the guilty would be the ala mode topping for the rest of us. On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:31 PM, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.comwrote: I forgot to post these.. (Thanks dad!) http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/Fest2013/ random pictures from the fest. I hope to organize them in the future. sam Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene is up! My views http://www.armchairpatriot.com/What%20Has%20America%20Become.shtml A celebrity is a person who is known for his well-knownness. A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
Gentlemen, First response - WOW - the only word to describe the week. Over thirty people attended this week. When I posted the meeting time and place I thought eight might show up and twelve would be a large number. I was surprised! Many states were represented as were Canada, UK and Austria. What a joy to meet and get to know everyone. Cool stuff: 3D printing Web page (and Android) control Watching techs with scopes ferreting out signals from electronic devices Programmers trying software control experiments Discussion about software/hardware timing and protocol. Meetings about changes in software and hardware. This was overwhelming on a daily basis! From groups of two or three around the room to a couple complete group gatherings an air of expectation was exhibited by excited voices and arm waving descriptions. It was difficult to stay listening to one group while overhearing another. Which do I want to concentrate on? I know I missed a lot of information I would have loved to have heard. I can now put a face and voice to many of the names on the communication channels. Last night I was hearing their voices and seeing their faces while I was reading some of their emails. What a communication enhancer. Last response is WOW! Thank everyone for attending and making this a memorable and productive meeting! Stuart -- Addressee is the intended audience. If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private correspondence. Thank you for honoring my wish. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
I would like to thank Stuart for hosting this incredible event. Of course thanks to all for their dedication and work on the project. Stuart said it best with WOW. I enjoyed meeting people that I thought I would only exchange e-mail with. The future of Linuxcnc looks bright. Thanks to all and hope to see all of you again. Terry On Jun 24, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: Gentlemen, First response - WOW - the only word to describe the week. Over thirty people attended this week. When I posted the meeting time and place I thought eight might show up and twelve would be a large number. I was surprised! Many states were represented as were Canada, UK and Austria. What a joy to meet and get to know everyone. Cool stuff: 3D printing Web page (and Android) control Watching techs with scopes ferreting out signals from electronic devices Programmers trying software control experiments Discussion about software/hardware timing and protocol. Meetings about changes in software and hardware. This was overwhelming on a daily basis! From groups of two or three around the room to a couple complete group gatherings an air of expectation was exhibited by excited voices and arm waving descriptions. It was difficult to stay listening to one group while overhearing another. Which do I want to concentrate on? I know I missed a lot of information I would have loved to have heard. I can now put a face and voice to many of the names on the communication channels. Last night I was hearing their voices and seeing their faces while I was reading some of their emails. What a communication enhancer. Last response is WOW! Thank everyone for attending and making this a memorable and productive meeting! Stuart -- Addressee is the intended audience. If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private correspondence. Thank you for honoring my wish. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
First off - Thank you Stuart you are more than generous. Both dad and I had a wonderful time at the fest. I hope we can keep this up more often. 3 years was way too long. Now we had some success at the fest. Andy P asked if I would bring the accupins from the old GE control on the kt. http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/accpinset1.jpg Well - saturday (yah we don't get side tracked - do we?) We started doing some basic tests on the read head. Andy had a frequency generator and we started injecting a signal into one of the coils. We could sort of see a shift of the return signal and goofed around with it for a bit. Jeff E was kind enough to whip up an arduino circuit that output 2 square waves 90deg out of phase. When that was hooked up to each coil - it did something. Just not what was expected. (don't remember what but not right) After reading back on my notes it dawned on me that the signal really needed to be isolated (the original circuit was driven by a push pull h-bridge) Pete W came by and said - if you have enough outputs you could generate differential signals. Duh. Back to Jeff E and 2 seconds later I had a new arduio program. That started looking promising. Chris R came over and was poking at the scope. We could see it shifting as the scale was moved - but the amplitude also changed. We must have went around in circles for a while before we decided to change the arduio frequancy from 10khz to the 250hz that the original control used. (I got stuck on 10khz because that was what seemed to go through the coil with Andy frequency generator). I hooked up the circuit and Chris fiddles with the scope. He exclaimed - 'I think it is working!' and he was right.' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im79QbffjCQ with a bit of filter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6hzesMM7EM this is why it looked a bit noisy... :) http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/Fest2013/DSC_3931.JPG After a bit of happy dancing - Andy and Jeff started looking at the signal. I got sidetracked again and didn't really pay attenion to what they where discussing. What they decided was that they could also read the output with an arduino.. A bit later - Jeff shows up with a way to log the output. he goofed around with it and graphed some of the data and it looks very exciting. Thanks again for everyones input! sam On 06/24/2013 08:48 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, First response - WOW - the only word to describe the week. Over thirty people attended this week. When I posted the meeting time and place I thought eight might show up and twelve would be a large number. I was surprised! Many states were represented as were Canada, UK and Austria. What a joy to meet and get to know everyone. Cool stuff: 3D printing Web page (and Android) control Watching techs with scopes ferreting out signals from electronic devices Programmers trying software control experiments Discussion about software/hardware timing and protocol. Meetings about changes in software and hardware. This was overwhelming on a daily basis! From groups of two or three around the room to a couple complete group gatherings an air of expectation was exhibited by excited voices and arm waving descriptions. It was difficult to stay listening to one group while overhearing another. Which do I want to concentrate on? I know I missed a lot of information I would have loved to have heard. I can now put a face and voice to many of the names on the communication channels. Last night I was hearing their voices and seeing their faces while I was reading some of their emails. What a communication enhancer. Last response is WOW! Thank everyone for attending and making this a memorable and productive meeting! Stuart -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users