Re: [Emc-users] problem setting appropriate speeds in joint and world mode for 6 axis robot with genserkins
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 6:06 PM, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote: Well done Christian ! ;-) thanks. Back to the original topic - looking at the code there seems to have been mostly search and replace modifications from axis to joints, but the problem I was asking about doesn't (yet) seem to have been fixed there either TODO for the joints_axes branch * clean up joints/axes throughout the whole code (lots of parts already done) * define a unified jogging way (both for joints and axes) * implement joint-limits for carthesian moves (requires simulating the speed in userspace) * update configs (and many other probably..) TODO sort out axis/joints issues: * limits need to be imposed on joints (tricky with kins) -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] problem setting appropriate speeds in joint and world mode for 6 axis robot with genserkins
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Andrew pkm...@gmail.com wrote: This is due to mixed joints/axes. IIRC axis_N values in INI file actually represent type, velocity, acceleration and limits for world axes, but resolution and homing behavior for joints. Any ideas on how I should tackle this problem - keeping in mind that exceeding the inidividual axis' speed/acceleration is sensitive for the proper operation of the robot. Try using joints_axes branch http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?JointAxesBranch Which one of the joints axis branches in the linuxcnc git would that be? (joints_axes7?) Or even one from a different repository? Also - is there a sample config (adapted Puma config?) for a 6 axis robot for joints_axes? -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] problem setting appropriate speeds in joint and world mode for 6 axis robot with genserkins
2015-05-04 13:40 GMT+03:00 Christian Stöveken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com : Which one of the joints axis branches in the linuxcnc git would that be? (joints_axes7?) Or even one from a different repository? Also - is there a sample config (adapted Puma config?) for a 6 axis robot for joints_axes? https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users I've heard that joints_axes7 works pretty well. But haven't tried it myself yet. IIRC there's a script in JA that will suggest to convert your existing config to JA format when loading. -- Andrew -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] problem setting appropriate speeds in joint and world mode for 6 axis robot with genserkins
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Andrew pkm...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-05-04 13:40 GMT+03:00 Christian Stöveken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com : Which one of the joints axis branches in the linuxcnc git would that be? (joints_axes7?) Or even one from a different repository? Also - is there a sample config (adapted Puma config?) for a 6 axis robot for joints_axes? https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users I've heard that joints_axes7 works pretty well. But haven't tried it myself yet. IIRC there's a script in JA that will suggest to convert your existing config to JA format when loading. I will try setting it up some time soon ;-) Some pictures https://excogitation.de/exccloud/public.php?service=filest=RbW4iciiBKIRV2M of the first actual milling task (still with genserkins/master). -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] problem setting appropriate speeds in joint and world mode for 6 axis robot with genserkins
Well done Christian ! ;-) Alex On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Christian Stöveken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Andrew pkm...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-05-04 13:40 GMT+03:00 Christian Stöveken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com : Which one of the joints axis branches in the linuxcnc git would that be? (joints_axes7?) Or even one from a different repository? Also - is there a sample config (adapted Puma config?) for a 6 axis robot for joints_axes? https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users I've heard that joints_axes7 works pretty well. But haven't tried it myself yet. IIRC there's a script in JA that will suggest to convert your existing config to JA format when loading. I will try setting it up some time soon ;-) Some pictures https://excogitation.de/exccloud/public.php?service=filest=RbW4iciiBKIRV2M of the first actual milling task (still with genserkins/master). -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] problem setting appropriate speeds in joint and world mode for 6 axis robot with genserkins
2015-04-30 19:23 GMT+03:00 Christian Stöveken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com : So I found like a day and a half to work on our Mantuec R15 / granite devices VSD-XE project again. When trying to run some gcode (generated with RhinoCAM) I noticed the robot was only moving very slowly in world mode in one direction (X axis). I setup all 6 axis as angular axis with the speed/acceleration settings tuned to slightly less than the VSD-XE's can handle. When switching to world mode the speed limits from axis 1/2/3 apply for X/Y/Z which doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Is this the intended behaviour? This is due to mixed joints/axes. IIRC axis_N values in INI file actually represent type, velocity, acceleration and limits for world axes, but resolution and homing behavior for joints. Any ideas on how I should tackle this problem - keeping in mind that exceeding the inidividual axis' speed/acceleration is sensitive for the proper operation of the robot. Try using joints_axes branch http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?JointAxesBranch -- Andrew -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] problem setting appropriate speeds in joint and world mode for 6 axis robot with genserkins
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 6:35 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 April 2015 at 17:23, Christian Stöveken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com wrote: When switching to world mode the speed limits from axis 1/2/3 apply for X/Y/Z which doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. 123 or 012? you are right: 012 of course. (robot axis are counted as 1234567 that's always a cause for misunderstandings here) Are the axes actually angular? please specify I am not sure what difference that setting makes, but I _think_ it only controls which limits slider / pins they obey. ^^ it certainly has that effect. -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] problem setting appropriate speeds in joint and world mode for 6 axis robot with genserkins
On 30 April 2015 at 17:23, Christian Stöveken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com wrote: When switching to world mode the speed limits from axis 1/2/3 apply for X/Y/Z which doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. 123 or 012? Are the axes actually angular? I am not sure what difference that setting makes, but I _think_ it only controls which limits slider / pins they obey. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] problem setting appropriate speeds in joint and world mode for 6 axis robot with genserkins
So I found like a day and a half to work on our Mantuec R15 / granite devices VSD-XE project again. When trying to run some gcode (generated with RhinoCAM) I noticed the robot was only moving very slowly in world mode in one direction (X axis). I setup all 6 axis as angular axis with the speed/acceleration settings tuned to slightly less than the VSD-XE's can handle. When switching to world mode the speed limits from axis 1/2/3 apply for X/Y/Z which doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Is this the intended behaviour? Any ideas on how I should tackle this problem - keeping in mind that exceeding the inidividual axis' speed/acceleration is sensitive for the proper operation of the robot. For a start I want to operate the robot in world mode because I can easily generate gcode for it (abusing it as xyz machine + turn table) with the cam software at hand. I intend to use it as 5-axis-continuous mill - but don't have access to the suitable cam software yet. -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
