Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 20 July 2013 04:37:17 Jon Elson did opine: Gene Heskett wrote: Tell me something Jon? How much an hour are you guys making while contemplating this reversion to 1960's technology? Sorry, just had to ask about the picture this thread is painting. ;-) I'm just SO GLAD that

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-20 Thread Belli Button
If you wound the tape onto a single spool, it would be 13 feet in diameter and weigh about 700 lbs. How do you calculate the diameter of the spool? -- See everything from the browser to the database with

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-20 Thread John Kasunich
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013, at 06:09 AM, Belli Button wrote: If you wound the tape onto a single spool, it would be 13 feet in diameter and weigh about 700 lbs. How do you calculate the diameter of the spool? Number of bytes divided by bytes per inch gives length of tape. Length of tape

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-20 Thread TJoseph Powderly
Hello Michael, the longest gcode program i've cut ( and still have ) is 3.9Meg, 157199 lines, 650K after txz-ing it Lemme know if you want the file i dont think i can attach in this mail list, esp that large. it was a lithophane, so is a translation of a pic to a heightmap regards tomp

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-19 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Thu, 7/18/13, John Kasunich jmkasun...@fastmail.fm wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever? To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Thursday, July 18, 2013, 7:48 PM On Thu, Jul 18, 2013, at 02:04 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: I had

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-19 Thread Stuart Stevenson
John, HEH - Thank you for the geek input. :) Stuart On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 8:48 PM, John Kasunich jmkasun...@fastmail.fmwrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2013, at 02:04 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: I had a handful of mylar dots from a tape punch. Andy P called them antibits. 1/2 million lines

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-19 Thread Ed Nisley
On 07/18/2013 02:04 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: I had a handful of mylar dots from a tape punch. A long time ago in a universe far away, our ancient college dorm had a huge in-wall vent fan blowing air from the corridor across the top of the shower stalls. Perhaps that was easier than routing

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-19 Thread Marcus Bowman
Yes; and in an even further corner of the forgotten empire, we had one of the early PDP-8 minis which stopped one day. It was located in a very small cupboard, and extensive, expensive, investigation finally revealed that the hard disk had stopped because tiny cluster flies (with which the

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-19 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 7/19/2013 5:33 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: On Thu, 7/18/13, John Kasunich jmkasun...@fastmail.fm wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever? To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Thursday, July 18, 2013, 7:48 PM On Thu, Jul

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-19 Thread Jon Elson
Gregg Eshelman wrote: And Mike Payson wrote: I checked, and the largest file there is 1,708,605 lines and 51,650,578 characters long. How many hours would it take to load? Hmm, let's see, good paper tape readers were 100 - 300 characters/second. So, 1.75 million / 300 = 5833 seconds,

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 19 July 2013 15:58:09 Jon Elson did opine: Gregg Eshelman wrote: And Mike Payson wrote: I checked, and the largest file there is 1,708,605 lines and 51,650,578 characters long. How many hours would it take to load? Hmm, let's see, good paper tape readers were 100 -

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-19 Thread tcninja12
Fanuc used to give their memory capacity in feet of tape. I cant remember an amount that was common. Terry On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:58 AM, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: On Fri, 2013-07-19 at 11:45 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: Gregg Eshelman wrote: And Mike Payson wrote: I checked, and the

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-19 Thread John Alexander Stewart
Bari: Why not just go CAD to AMF? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Additive_Manufacturing_File_Format And then just import AMF right into the interpreter and skip using G-code. Or, do as Shapeways does - use X3D. AMF does seem to have some issues with surface division, from what I have read. I

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-19 Thread dave
On Fri, 2013-07-19 at 11:45 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: Gregg Eshelman wrote: And Mike Payson wrote: I checked, and the largest file there is 1,708,605 lines and 51,650,578 characters long. How many hours would it take to load? Hmm, let's see, good paper tape readers were 100 -

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-19 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: Tell me something Jon? How much an hour are you guys making while contemplating this reversion to 1960's technology? Sorry, just had to ask about the picture this thread is painting. ;-) I'm just SO GLAD that technology has moved forward! Punched cards, paper tape,

[Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-18 Thread Michael Haberler
I'd be interested in what was your biggest-sized G-code program ever good enough: file size, number of lines - just a rough indication is fine --- background: I am considering alternative internal representations of G-code and want to get a handle on the problem size thanks! - Michael

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-18 Thread Troy Jacobson
From the 3D printer side of things, I just created a file 2.5M, 100K lines. I can easily see needing to print files 5 times this size, On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Michael Haberler mai...@mah.priv.atwrote: I'd be interested in what was your biggest-sized G-code program ever good enough:

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 18 July 2013 10:44:58 Michael Haberler did opine: I'd be interested in what was your biggest-sized G-code program ever good enough: file size, number of lines - just a rough indication is fine --- background: I am considering alternative internal representations of G-code

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-18 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/18/2013 10:17 AM, Troy Jacobson wrote: From the 3D printer side of things, I just created a file 2.5M, 100K lines. I can easily see needing to print files 5 times this size, Most of my 3D printer ngc files are in the 3-5 MByte range, but I've

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-18 Thread Michał Geszkiewicz
200-500k lines in 3d milling. Michael W dniu 18.07.2013 17:19, Gene Heskett pisze: On Thursday 18 July 2013 10:44:58 Michael Haberler did opine: I'd be interested in what was your biggest-sized G-code program ever good enough: file size, number of lines - just a rough indication is fine

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-18 Thread Stuart Stevenson
We have 5 axis files and 3D contouring files that regularly approach if not exceed 100K lines. I don't know the maximum we have had but I am sure it was more than 100K lines. This number of lines does not occur often but it does happen once or twice a year. I don't know the file size. 5 axis

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-18 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/18/2013 9:33 AM, Michael Haberler wrote: I'd be interested in what was your biggest-sized G-code program ever good enough: file size, number of lines - just a rough indication is fine --- background: I am considering alternative

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-18 Thread Ed Nisley
On 07/18/2013 10:33 AM, Michael Haberler wrote: your biggest-sized G-code program ever Slicer programs for 3D printing spit out astonishingly long files; the biggest ones seem to be in the 10 to 15 MB range, with around half a million lines. Nothing very complicated, but a whole pile of it...

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-18 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Ed Nisley ed.08.nis...@pobox.com wrote: On 07/18/2013 10:33 AM, Michael Haberler wrote: your biggest-sized G-code program ever Slicer programs for 3D printing spit out astonishingly long files; the biggest ones seem to be in the 10 to 15 MB range, with

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-18 Thread Mike Payson
Like others have said, gcode files for 3d printers van get BIG. I export all my gcode to a single directory, so here the top of that directory, sorted by size: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ljq8zfewru1oy45/Big%20Gcode.PNG I checked, and the largest file there is 1,708,605 lines and 51,650,578

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-18 Thread Bari
Maybe it's time to consider dropping the use of G-code and STL for additive manufacturing? Why not just go CAD to AMF? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Additive_Manufacturing_File_Format And then just import AMF right into the interpreter and skip using G-code. The problem with having only one

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-18 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Thu, 7/18/13, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: background: I am considering alternative internal representations of G-code and want to get a handle on the problem size thanks! - Michael Something like an optimizer that finds repeated motions, condenses them to one

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-18 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Thu, 7/18/13, Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net wrote: Question:  Would you design something in today's world that had any sort of hard-coded limit (other than maybe native memory size)? If so, why? I envision a future where gcode files are split into 1 Gig chunks because

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 18 July 2013 22:07:44 John Kasunich did opine: On Thu, Jul 18, 2013, at 02:04 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: I had a handful of mylar dots from a tape punch. Andy P called them antibits. 1/2 million lines would be a large pile of it - :) And Mike Payson wrote: Like others have

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-18 Thread Todd Zuercher
Message - From: Michael Haberler mai...@mah.priv.at To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 10:33:13 AM Subject: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever? I'd be interested in what was your biggest-sized G-code

Re: [Emc-users] query: how long was your longes G-Code program ever?

2013-07-18 Thread dave
On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 22:12 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 18 July 2013 22:07:44 John Kasunich did opine: On Thu, Jul 18, 2013, at 02:04 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: I had a handful of mylar dots from a tape punch. Andy P called them antibits. 1/2 million lines would be a large