Re: [Emc-users] Shizuoka on eBay
On Fri, 7/5/13, Hubert Bahr h...@hbahr.org wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Shizuoka on eBay To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Friday, July 5, 2013, 10:09 PM While I don't need to add a new project at this time this does peak my interest, but it brings up some questions. What type of capabilities can we expect to get by retrofitting one of these older NC machines? --- Search YouTube for kearney trecker CNC and you'll find several of an old blue and yellow horizontal machining center updated to operation with LinuxCNC. It can do things it never could have with its original control, such as rigid tapping. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Shizuoka on eBay
On 07/06/2013 02:19 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: ... snip While I don't need to add a new project at this time this does peak my interest, but it brings up some questions. What type of capabilities can we expect to get by retrofitting one of these older NC machines? ... snip For my Shizuoka and HNC, they are now just as accurate as they were before the conversion. These industrial CNC's tend to age much better than the consumer grade machines like my Bridgeport, or most mini machines, which seem to need rework even when new. Incorporating tool changers, coolant, collet closers, and other systems is usually straight forward if one has a good handle on electronics and writing software or can hire talent. So, in my opinion, a converted machine should work just as well as the original. -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/ -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Shizuoka on eBay
Gregg Eshelman wrote: On Fri, 7/5/13, Hubert Bahr h...@hbahr.org wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Shizuoka on eBay To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Friday, July 5, 2013, 10:09 PM While I don't need to add a new project at this time this does peak my interest, but it brings up some questions. What type of capabilities can we expect to get by retrofitting one of these older NC machines? --- Search YouTube for kearney trecker CNC and you'll find several of an old blue and yellow horizontal machining center updated to operation with LinuxCNC. It can do things it never could have with its original control, such as rigid tapping. Warning, that Shizuoka looks VERY tall! make sure your ceiling is high enough before making a decision. As for rigid tapping, it can be a bear to attach a spindle encoder to some machines that were never intended for it. I had to put gear tooth sensors in my Bridgeport's head so I could use the bull gear as an encoder. But, it works great! Jon -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Shizuoka on eBay
same guy has a nice Clausing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/CLAUSING-LATHE/300927639837?ssPageName=WDVWrd=1ih=020category=104241cmd=ViewItem On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 6:45 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 July 2013 23:38, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: In case someone forgot to buy this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/290928102085 Following links: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sigma-Milling-Machine/300925762230 Looks seriously under-bid to me. That's one stiff looking mill. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Shizuoka on eBay
On 5 July 2013 23:38, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: In case someone forgot to buy this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/290928102085 Following links: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sigma-Milling-Machine/300925762230 Looks seriously under-bid to me. That's one stiff looking mill. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Shizuoka on eBay
Long Live the Shiz!! Pete On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.comwrote: In case someone forgot to buy this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/290928102085 This one is a little larger than my ST-N. It should be around 4,000 lbs. The seller should be able to help with arranging shipping. It looks like it has servos and resolvers, but mine has steppers, so I don't know for sure. Just add a PC and some interface hardware to the existing drivers and power supplies. There is a tool changer, but it looks like the arm may be missing or doesn't show up in the pictures. The spindle nose looks pretty rough. I don't know why it has threads on the OD. If one has the space, this could be cheaper and easier than converting a cheap new mini mill. Make an offer, and maybe get it cheaper. I have no connection to the seller. I just have a soft spot for Shizuokas -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/ -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Shizuoka on eBay
While I don't need to add a new project at this time this does peak my interest, but it brings up some questions. What type of capabilities can we expect to get by retrofitting one of these older NC machines? I would think they should be more capable than a Chinese mill conversion but what is the chance that you would be left owning an unit needing some critical part that you can't afford? Am I also correct in understanding that a 24 station turret mill means that is has room for 24 different tools? While I am still working on my Small mill conversion after first doing a mini mill I still find myself dreaming of even more capability even though this is all still a hobby. Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 15:38:10 -0700 From: Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com Subject: [Emc-users] Shizuoka on eBay To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: 51d74ad2.3030...@wallacecompany.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed In case someone forgot to buy this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/290928102085 This one is a little larger than my ST-N. It should be around 4,000 lbs. The seller should be able to help with arranging shipping. It looks like it has servos and resolvers, but mine has steppers, so I don't know for sure. Just add a PC and some interface hardware to the existing drivers and power supplies. There is a tool changer, but it looks like the arm may be missing or doesn't show up in the pictures. The spindle nose looks pretty rough. I don't know why it has threads on the OD. If one has the space, this could be cheaper and easier than converting a cheap new mini mill. Make an offer, and maybe get it cheaper. I have no connection to the seller. I just have a soft spot for Shizuokas -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
