Re: [-empyre-] Notes and a comment

2014-11-26 Thread William Bain
--empyre- soft-skinned space--So much has been said here in what's been posted overthe last day and a half—incredibly intelligent posts—that I wonder if I can addanything of importance. Police brutality all over the world has concerned mefor a long time. I think of

[-empyre-] discussion on track again

2014-11-26 Thread Ana Valdés
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- I was trying to find a red line in our discussion, reading what others wrote, Aneta, Monika, Murat, Alan, Johannes, Christina, Aristita, Andreas, Simon, Rustom, Alicia, Leandro, others... I go always back to Modernity. Yesterday we

Re: [-empyre-] creative powerlessness/ creative power theatre of the oppressed

2014-11-26 Thread Johannes Birringer
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- thank you Aristita for expanding on your first post, and illuminating the election process in Romania and the voting in of a new president who seemed not to have a chance to be elected. Your evocation of the collective will or action,

Re: [-empyre-] discussion on track again

2014-11-26 Thread Murat Nemet-Nejat
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Ana, maybe it is because sexual images are easier to censure. The authorities create a code, as in the movies. Though they may occur as often, if not more, one should not forget *scenes* of violence are not shown in the United States, such

Re: [-empyre-] discussion on track again

2014-11-26 Thread Ana Valdés
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/16/arts/design/16eros.html?_r=2oref=slogin; http://www.expatica.com/fr/out-and-about/arts-culture/Adults-only-as-Frances-National-Library-allows-peep-at-sex-hell_100043.html

Re: [-empyre-] gender war, mythic violence

2014-11-26 Thread Johannes Birringer
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- well, the discussion never went off track, as far as I am concerned. and the more combustuous dialogues we had yesterday, around Alan's comments on violence, racial conflict, etc in Ferguson, Missouri, were most welcome, as we can

Re: [-empyre-] gender war, mythic violence

2014-11-26 Thread Alan Sondheim
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- On Wed, 26 Nov 2014, Johannes Birringer wrote: --empyre- soft-skinned space-- of the within/without non-issue. The violence of war is within-without; and Alan, I venture to say, you were recruited the

Re: [-empyre-] discussion on track again

2014-11-26 Thread Murat Nemet-Nejat
--empyre- soft-skinned space--I do not know the work. Is it its politics that is keeping it in enfer or the eroticism? On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Ana Valdés agora...@gmail.com wrote: --empyre- soft-skinned space--

Re: [-empyre-] discussion on track again

2014-11-26 Thread Christina Spiesel
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Thank you Ana for the links to the French exhibition! Ana raised many issues and this is only a partly, and personal, reply. There is a point where grown men beheaded and little girls sexually exploited meet in the common theme of the

Re: [-empyre-] nothing gives - mathematical reality of biopolitical implants

2014-11-26 Thread simon
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- On 27/11/14 09:15, Alan Sondheim wrote: this country, for all its military power and swashbuckling and back-room international deals, operates on the principle of endocolonization two areas of IBM expenditure last year interested me:

Re: [-empyre-] discussion on track again

2014-11-26 Thread Murat Nemet-Nejat
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Christina, much of our American culture also arose from the cultural extermination of the American Indians (which luckily did not occur with the black culture) rather than integrating that culture into the American mainstream, an

Re: [-empyre-] nothing gives - mathematical reality of biopolitical implants

2014-11-26 Thread Murat Nemet-Nejat
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Simon, how internet businesses (from Facebook to younameit) are monetized give the underlying malevolent dynamic in the web. The populace is given candy, a product for them to enjoy, whereas themselves (their psyche) are the product sold

Re: [-empyre-] discussion on track again

2014-11-26 Thread Murat Nemet-Nejat
--empyre- soft-skinned space--... Christina, much of our American culture also arose from the cultural extermination of the American Indians (which luckily did not occur with the black culture) rather than integrating that culture into the American mainstream...