Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-23 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 10:21:40 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: TLDR (stopped part way ). > Exactly, see your last line, using same config daemon, means they > should be used together. Using with other stuff may have issues. my spacebar has gone nuts... so short it is. OpenOffice and LibreOf

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-23 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 14:54:53 + Andrew Williams wrote: > Hi team, > > From a somewhat outside perspective it seems that this thread is > confusing the direction or requirements of a window manager / user > desktop with those of a distribution. > If we decided to publish a DM that was a core a

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-23 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi team, >From a somewhat outside perspective it seems that this thread is confusing the direction or requirements of a window manager / user desktop with those of a distribution. If we decided to publish a DM that was a core app then fine. But if we don't then it is not making life harder for use

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-23 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 12:23:43 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > and e works without sddm's interference. know HOW it works... and > it'd be sddm getting in the way (e uses xrandr backlight controls if > xrandr supports it - intel drivers only, otherwise executes a setuid > root too

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-22 Thread Simon Lees
On 23/06/17 12:53, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 10:50:17 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." > > said: > >> Saying E recommonds or defaults to using DM xyz I do not think is much. >> Users do not have to run that its just a default, recommended, etc. If >> you do no

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 10:50:17 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 15:28:50 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > > > Like in my case SDDM prevented E from turning off the backlight and > > > the cursor stayed visible when the display was turned off/screen >

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-22 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 18:06:21 +0930 Simon Lees wrote: > > If E is doing something non standard then yes it should be. If SDDM is > preventing E from changing the backlight thats probably a issue for it > though. If I take an issue with E not turning off backlight and cursor to SDDM I bet it would

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-22 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 15:28:50 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > Like in my case SDDM prevented E from turning off the backlight and > > the cursor stayed visible when the display was turned off/screen > > saver. I thought it was a bug in E, but it was something with SDDM. > > When

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-22 Thread Simon Lees
On 22/06/17 13:35, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 11:56:50 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >> you keep going on about "what do users do". use whatever display >> manager you like. we install xsession desktop files so it'll be >> listed in the available ses

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 00:05:45 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 11:56:50 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > you keep going on about "what do users do". use whatever display > > manager you like. we install xsession desktop files so it'll be > > listed

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-21 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 11:56:50 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > you keep going on about "what do users do". use whatever display > manager you like. we install xsession desktop files so it'll be > listed in the available sessions along with everything else... we > dont have to do any

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 22:28:56 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 08:30:56 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 10:43:57 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." > > said: > > > > > On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 23:19:00 +0900 > > > Carsten Haitzler (The

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-21 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 08:30:56 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 10:43:57 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." > said: > > > On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 23:19:00 +0900 > > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > > > > log into text console and fix. something we (the p

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-21 Thread Simon Lees
On 22/06/17 00:13, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > What should users do? That is the question. What is the standard way > that users should start E? Most will rely on a display/login manager > for such functionality. > I think the problem here is you are asking the wrong question / taking the wr

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 10:43:57 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 23:19:00 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > > log into text console and fix. something we (the people doing this) > > are perfectly capable of the odd time this might happen. > > But what

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-21 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
I use Fedora on all my work machines; I've always logged in normally using an enlightenment session from gdm (the default dm on Fedora). On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:45 AM William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 23:19:00 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > > log into

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-21 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 23:19:00 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > log into text console and fix. something we (the people doing this) > are perfectly capable of the odd time this might happen. But what about other less capable people? Screw them? They are not good enough to run E?

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 10:07:55 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 11:13:16 +0930 > Simon Lees wrote: > > > Well the simple way would be to write a systemd service file that > > launches xinit or enlightenment_start once the rest of the system is > > ready. > > What happen

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-21 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 11:13:16 +0930 Simon Lees wrote: > Well the simple way would be to write a systemd service file that > launches xinit or enlightenment_start once the rest of the system is > ready. What happens if something fails? What if E failed to start for some reason? What then? It also

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-21 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
+1 to provide a systemd service that one could enable and get user linger to start e Em qua, 21 de jun de 2017 às 10:55, William L. Thomson Jr. < wlt...@o-sinc.com> escreveu: > On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 23:03:18 -0300 > Felipe Magno de Almeida wrote: > > > > I use the same approach. It is quite common

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-21 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 23:03:18 -0300 Felipe Magno de Almeida wrote: > > I use the same approach. It is quite common between e devs. What about E users? Does anyone care about them? Devs can do things that are not practical for end users. If that is say the preferred way for E, then it should have

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-21 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 18:44:25 -0700 Cedric BAIL wrote: > > I use systemd user session for that purpose. Check arch Linux wiki > for some doc (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/User). That does not seem to trivial and not sure the average user would go through such. The time spent to set

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-21 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 11:16:15 +0300 Vasiliy Tolstov wrote: > 2017-06-21 4:21 GMT+03:00 William L. Thomson Jr. : > > > > How? What is starting E? Can you explain the process? > > > > I can think of several ways of doing that, none of which would I > > consider common. Not sure if any distros docume

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-21 Thread Vasiliy Tolstov
2017-06-21 4:21 GMT+03:00 William L. Thomson Jr. : > > How? What is starting E? Can you explain the process? > > I can think of several ways of doing that, none of which would I > consider common. Not sure if any distros document such approach. I don't have stable enlightenment with wayland, so i

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-21 Thread Vasiliy Tolstov
2017-06-21 2:27 GMT+03:00 Carsten Haitzler : > errr no... my machine boots right into e... with no cli used. power on and > there is my desktop running as my user a few seconds later without me typing a > single thing. if i want people to not access it other than me - i enable "lock > on startup" a

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-20 Thread Felipe Magno de Almeida
On Jun 20, 2017 10:45 PM, "Cedric BAIL" wrote: On Jun 20, 2017 18:21, "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 08:27:36 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > errr no... my machine boots right into e... with no cli used. power > on and there is my desktop running as my u

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-20 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Jun 20, 2017 18:21, "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 08:27:36 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > errr no... my machine boots right into e... with no cli used. power > on and there is my desktop running as my user a few seconds later > without me typing a sin

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-20 Thread Simon Lees
On 21/06/17 10:51, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 08:27:36 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >> >> errr no... my machine boots right into e... with no cli used. power >> on and there is my desktop running as my user a few seconds later >> without me typing a

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-20 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 08:27:36 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > errr no... my machine boots right into e... with no cli used. power > on and there is my desktop running as my user a few seconds later > without me typing a single thing. if i want people to not access it > other tha

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-20 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 11:16:09 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 14:03:25 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 14:31:16 +0200 michael bouchaud > > said: > > > > > No I don't use a dm today, I'm a single user on my laptop. > > > >

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-20 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 14:31:16 +0200 michael bouchaud wrote: > The gui code of entrance could be a good startup for a new login > module. But the rest of code :(, just picking some here and there. So > I hope now you understand why my interrest into entrance is low since > 2-3 years. That seems to

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-20 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 14:03:25 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 14:31:16 +0200 michael bouchaud > said: > > > No I don't use a dm today, I'm a single user on my laptop. > > same for me... :) Hardly ideal for others. May work for you but it is a horrible end

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 14:31:16 +0200 michael bouchaud said: > No I don't use a dm today, I'm a single user on my laptop. same for me... :) > And the plan is what raster ask and explain, e have got what we need to > make a great login manager for e. aaah indeed. this would have been next - to con

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-18 Thread michael bouchaud
Yes it would. Just hang to log in, prepare env user space, exec and wait until a wm is here to shutdown. Le 18 juin 2017 16:59, "William L. Thomson Jr." a écrit : > On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 09:14:31 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 14:23:37 +0200 michael bouc

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-18 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 09:14:31 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 14:23:37 +0200 michael bouchaud > said: > > hey yoz! > > how far are you along with this entrance re-do? my thoughts are as > follows: just re-use enlightenment itself as a login manager. Would it

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-18 Thread Al Poole
It sounds like a better idea. Most of the auth stuff exists I guess the experience wouldn't need to be too dissimilar to the screen lock. So the DM would work regardless of what engine or OS you used (as long as E runs). On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 1:31 PM, michael bouchaud < michael.bouch...@gmail.co

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-18 Thread michael bouchaud
No I don't use a dm today, I'm a single user on my laptop. And the plan is what raster ask and explain, e have got what we need to make a great login manager for e. What I have done is just make experiment with imfos module (into my branch) and try what we could do with security when logged. I do a

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-18 Thread Simon Lees
On 18/06/17 06:51, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 19:37:24 +0200 > michael bouchaud wrote: > >> Nothing about this fork, it's a great news and me too, I will enjoy >> an e login manager ! > > I take it you are not using entrance now. What are you using then to > log into E

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 14:23:37 +0200 michael bouchaud said: hey yoz! how far are you along with this entrance re-do? my thoughts are as follows: just re-use enlightenment itself as a login manager. why? it will have all the multi-screen, dimming/dpms, input calibration, power management (shut down

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 17:21:07 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 19:37:24 +0200 > michael bouchaud wrote: > > > > The main things is to fix bugs. I see you use console-kit see last > > freedesktop review about it. > > https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit/ >

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 19:37:24 +0200 michael bouchaud wrote: > Nothing about this fork, it's a great news and me too, With regard to the fork aspect. My initial intention was to further things within E repositories. Though after an experience with ecrire, seems it is best I work outside. I have n

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 19:37:24 +0200 michael bouchaud wrote: > Nothing about this fork, it's a great news and me too, I will enjoy > an e login manager ! I take it you are not using entrance now. What are you using then to log into E? To me having DM is pretty important. I typically have used one

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-17 Thread michael bouchaud
Nothing about this fork, it's a great news and me too, I will enjoy an e login manager ! The Entrance (the code done in git today) embed a full elementary + edje implementation and done to get the minimum memory footprint when logged (less than 100K on stack). Many security implementation is done (

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 18:26:33 +0200 michael bouchaud wrote: > Nothing against you use this code and improve it in your own way. Great, I had no idea others had interest. I had asked about this on IRC several times. People saw me working on it and asking questions in the last few days. Much less t

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 18:21:44 +0200 michael bouchaud wrote: > > they are still opened because not very well fixed. Either way those issues still exist and others. Thus I did what I did to get it working for my needs. Considerable issues still remain that I will address in time. -- William L. Tho

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-17 Thread michael bouchaud
Nothing against you use this code and improve it in your own way. Regards 2017-06-17 18:21 GMT+02:00 michael bouchaud : > > > 2017-06-17 18:00 GMT+02:00 William L. Thomson Jr. : > >> On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 11:35:48 -0400 >> "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: >> >> > On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 14:23:37 +020

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-17 Thread michael bouchaud
2017-06-17 18:00 GMT+02:00 William L. Thomson Jr. : > On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 11:35:48 -0400 > "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > > > On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 14:23:37 +0200 > > michael bouchaud wrote: > > > > > So... Good to know you try to provide this one > > > whithout bug. > > > > Everyone said it wa

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 11:35:48 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 14:23:37 +0200 > michael bouchaud wrote: > > > So... Good to know you try to provide this one > > whithout bug. > > Everyone said it was dead. If people thought it was an alive active > project I would h

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 14:27:27 +0200 michael bouchaud wrote: > Ho I missed 2 things... > Each Linux distributions have his own implementation of pam. So to be > perfect you need to provide a pam file for each 'version' of linux > distributions. Seems it is more a system than DM thing. I may leave

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 14:23:37 +0200 michael bouchaud wrote: > Hi, > > That's sound go to me ear entrance is alive. If you need my help don't > think about it twice ! I think I have a decent idea of the code base having spent the last few days going over it to understand the issues I was experien

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-17 Thread michael bouchaud
Ho I missed 2 things... Each Linux distributions have his own implementation of pam. So to be perfect you need to provide a pam file for each 'version' of linux distributions. And I got no problem about the socket on stable debian actualy. which distribution did you use ? 2017-06-17 14:23 GMT+02:0

Re: [E-devel] Entrance is alive

2017-06-17 Thread michael bouchaud
Hi, That's sound go to me ear entrance is alive. If you need my help don't think about it twice ! Entrance is in this shape today because I'm working on a new version of entrance where I go far beyond the goal of this actual version. I need to rework about everything and today I don't have what I

Re: [E-devel] entrance broken with EFL 1.15 (was: Re: Behavior break)

2015-07-31 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On 31/07/15 04:51, Jean-Philippe André wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 8:02 PM, wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 07:46:55PM +0900, Jean-Philippe André wrote: >>> On the other hand, some users reported that entrance does not work with >> EFL >>> 1.15 and I can confirm this. But

Re: [E-devel] entrance on e19

2014-03-06 Thread Chris Seekamp
> We recently have a issue with entrance since end of december, where > entrance can't detect well the start of a window manager. And I think this > is your problem. I do a recent commit to fix this one(tonight, a few > minutes ago ^^). I really need a new laptop to be more reactive :P. So > pleas

Re: [E-devel] Entrance on e19

2014-03-06 Thread Michaël Bouchaud
We recently have a issue with entrance since end of december, where entrance can't detect well the start of a window manager. And I think this is your problem. I do a recent commit to fix this one(tonight, a few minutes ago ^^). I really need a new laptop to be more reactive :P. So please update a

Re: [E-devel] entrance developers

2013-05-30 Thread Vasiliy Tolstov
2013/5/31 Jeff Hoogland : > I'm aware of how to compile it from source code. I was asking for the > packaging specific scripts that allow it to auto configure/make itself the > primary display manager. Ah.. See for example https://launchpad.net/~efl/+archive/trunk/+files/entrance_0.0.4-1ppa9~rari

Re: [E-devel] entrance developers

2013-05-30 Thread Jeff Hoogland
I'm aware of how to compile it from source code. I was asking for the packaging specific scripts that allow it to auto configure/make itself the primary display manager. On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Vasiliy Tolstov wrote: > 2013/5/31 Jeff Hoogland : > > Not related to your question - but do

Re: [E-devel] entrance developers

2013-05-30 Thread Vasiliy Tolstov
2013/5/31 Jeff Hoogland : > Not related to your question - but do you have package source for a working > Debian package for entrance? =) I get it from git. It compiles fine with e17 stable. see ppa:efl/trunk on launchpad. Package have some bugs - for example i not add entrance init script to aut

Re: [E-devel] entrance developers

2013-05-30 Thread Jeff Hoogland
Not related to your question - but do you have package source for a working Debian package for entrance? On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Vasiliy Tolstov wrote: > I'm install entrance on ubuntu 13.04 (create ubuntu package) and now > have some questions: > > How can i change default Xorg cursor

Re: [E-devel] entrance

2010-05-31 Thread Christopher Michael
On 05/31/2010 03:08 AM, Vincent Torri wrote: > > > On Mon, 31 May 2010, Vincent Pomageot wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Entrance has been removed from svn 3 month ago. >> You can get it by checking out a revision before 46590. > > as quaker still don't want to (can't ?) work on a new entrance, I'm more > in

Re: [E-devel] entrance

2010-05-31 Thread Vincent Torri
On Mon, 31 May 2010, Vincent Pomageot wrote: Hi, Entrance has been removed from svn 3 month ago. You can get it by checking out a revision before 46590. as quaker still don't want to (can't ?) work on a new entrance, I'm more inclined to add it again to svn. He deleted it by saying a new o

Re: [E-devel] entrance

2010-05-31 Thread Vincent Pomageot
Hi, Entrance has been removed from svn 3 month ago. You can get it by checking out a revision before 46590. Regards, 2010/5/31 rui kou > HI,where can I get the code of entrance?? > > -- > >

Re: [E-devel] Entrance and network manager not working

2008-11-07 Thread Nick Hughart
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:27:44 +0100 "Luca De Marini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > entrance itself? or e? e has translations and does work. the new > > wizard even > > asks you for what language you want the first time... :) it does > > require your > > system support the locales e has tran

Re: [E-devel] Entrance and network manager not working

2008-11-04 Thread Nick Hughart
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:27:44 +0100 "Luca De Marini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > entrance itself? or e? e has translations and does work. the new > > wizard even > > asks you for what language you want the first time... :) it does > > require your > > system support the locales e has tran

Re: [E-devel] Entrance and network manager not working

2008-11-04 Thread Luca De Marini
> > > entrance itself? or e? e has translations and does work. the new wizard > even > asks you for what language you want the first time... :) it does require > your > system support the locales e has translations for... :) Ok, so I'll be surely faster explaining my issue :) When I log in with E

Re: [E-devel] Entrance and network manager not working

2008-11-04 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:16:40 +0100 "Luca De Marini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Looks like Raster has just added DBus support to E and I believe this should > make NM work :) > We have another problem... Language support. When you log in with entrance > there's no language translation. How could

Re: [E-devel] Entrance and network manager not working

2008-11-04 Thread Luca De Marini
Looks like Raster has just added DBus support to E and I believe this should make NM work :) We have another problem... Language support. When you log in with entrance there's no language translation. How could this be fixed in your opinion? Bye, Luca P.S.: Quaker, maybe you should post your past

Re: [E-devel] Entrance and network manager not working

2008-10-31 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 08:21:04AM +0100, Luca De Marini wrote: > In any case, now my situation is quite weird. > If I log in with the session "enlightenment", I have a normal E session and > NM does not working. > But if I log in to a "default" session, enlightenment has Nm support!! > What's wei

Re: [E-devel] Entrance and network manager not working

2008-10-31 Thread Iván Briano (Sachiel)
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 5:21 AM, Luca De Marini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Uhm, I tried something, but I'm a bit confused.So, after the conversation we > had, I tried to do something different, something to have dbus being loaded > for every user. > What I did was editing the file > /usr/share/xs

Re: [E-devel] Entrance and network manager not working

2008-10-31 Thread Luca De Marini
Uhm, I tried something, but I'm a bit confused.So, after the conversation we had, I tried to do something different, something to have dbus being loaded for every user. What I did was editing the file /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment by default it is configured to execute directly enlightenment_

Re: [E-devel] Entrance and network manager not working

2008-10-30 Thread Iván Briano (Sachiel)
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Luca De Marini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well but nm works with GDM or KDM... so there's something, maybe, that they > do more than entrance when loggin in the user? > Maybe they're launching dbus with the session, or running some other init scripts to set up the

Re: [E-devel] Entrance and network manager not working

2008-10-30 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 06:55:09PM +0100, Luca De Marini wrote: > Well but nm works with GDM or KDM... so there's something, maybe, that they > do more than entrance when loggin in the user? They are probably running an Xsession that starts the stuff for NM. It's pretty easy to replicate the stuf

Re: [E-devel] Entrance and network manager not working

2008-10-30 Thread Luca De Marini
Well but nm works with GDM or KDM... so there's something, maybe, that they do more than entrance when loggin in the user? 2008/10/30 Christopher Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I do not believe that this has anything todo with Entrance. Entrance just > starts your desktop session (short version of

Re: [E-devel] Entrance and network manager not working

2008-10-30 Thread Christopher Michael
I do not believe that this has anything todo with Entrance. Entrance just starts your desktop session (short version of explanation). Entrance has no control what-so-ever of nm-applet and as such would not be responsible for this error. devilhorns Luca De Marini wrote: > OK, maybe this may hav

Re: [E-devel] entrance PAM fix

2008-08-30 Thread Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy
Patch applied, thanks. Greets, Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 06:30:26PM +0200, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > Hi all, > the attached fix is required to allow using e.g. pam_ssh with entrance. > Currently a PAM module can not add environmental variables (in this case > the pid of

Re: [E-devel] entrance dual-screen fix

2008-08-30 Thread Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy
Applied, thanks. Greets, Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 08:31:27AM +0200, Joel Klinghed wrote: > Hi. > > I have a dual screen system (using Nvidia:s xinerama emulation) with > screen 0 to the right of screen 1. > Entrance handles the screens nicely when moving the cursor betwe

Re: [E-devel] Entrance compilation problem

2007-10-30 Thread Diogo Dutra
Thank you vicent =) I really retrive the lastest code from anoncvs... Anything wrong happen.. On 10/30/07, Vincent Torri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, Diogo Dutra wrote: > > > Someone? > > Any answer? > > =\ > > > > On 10/28/07, Diogo Dutra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> H

Re: [E-devel] Entrance compilation problem

2007-10-30 Thread Vincent Torri
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, Diogo Dutra wrote: > Someone? > Any answer? > =\ > > On 10/28/07, Diogo Dutra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi, >> I was tried to compile entrance and I have some errors: >> In configure it looks for esmart and dont find, I think it is because >> in smart directory dont exis

Re: [E-devel] Entrance compilation problem

2007-10-30 Thread Diogo Dutra
Someone? Any answer? =\ On 10/28/07, Diogo Dutra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I was tried to compile entrance and I have some errors: > In configure it looks for esmart and dont find, I think it is because > in smart directory dont exist the esmart.pc.in so dont create the > esmart.pc in $PA

Re: [E-devel] Entrance and tcsh

2007-10-30 Thread Ravenlock
On 10/28/2007 02:42, Grzegorz And wrote: > Hello. > > I just want to ask if there are any plans to fix entrance + tcsh problem? Yes... there are plans, afaiac. I know what is wrong (more or less). just haven't got around to fixing. I use tcsh as well. > > Right now user with tcsh as the defau

Re: [E-devel] [entrance] client patch for xinerama

2007-10-01 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 14:47:19 +0400 Anton Rukin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > hmm - this isn't right as it ONLY resized the main ui - it doesnt > > resize other screen ui's as well (entrance should put a background on > > each screen separately and only put the rest of the ui on the main > > scre

Re: [E-devel] [entrance] client patch for xinerama

2007-10-01 Thread Anton Rukin
> hmm - this isn't right as it ONLY resized the main ui - it doesnt > resize other screen ui's as well (entrance should put a background on > each screen separately and only put the rest of the ui on the main > screen - so on resize technically you need to re-position and resize > all backgrounds a

Re: [E-devel] [entrance] client patch for xinerama

2007-09-28 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:17:10 +0400 Anton Rukin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > I have nVidia card with twinview configured (first display right of > second). Only half of "default.edj" theme is displayed (on the right of > the first screen). After some investigations I've found, that in > window

Re: [E-devel] Entrance errors

2007-04-09 Thread Paulo J. Matos
On 4/9/07, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 22:38:59 +0100 "Paulo J. Matos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > > On 4/8/07, Paulo J. Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Any ideas on what this might be about? > > > > > > > Oh well, this probabl

Re: [E-devel] Entrance errors

2007-04-08 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 22:38:59 +0100 "Paulo J. Matos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On 4/8/07, Paulo J. Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Any ideas on what this might be about? > > > > Oh well, this probably is about the eet evas module as it says, what I > really want to know is if I need t

Re: [E-devel] Entrance errors

2007-04-08 Thread Paulo J. Matos
On 4/8/07, Paulo J. Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any ideas on what this might be about? > Oh well, this probably is about the eet evas module as it says, what I really want to know is if I need to run anything before entrance -T? > -- > Paulo Jorge Matos - pocm at soton.ac.uk > http://www

Re: [E-devel] entrance configuration problem

2007-03-30 Thread Michael Jennings
On Friday, 30 March 2007, at 23:07:09 (+0200), Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy wrote: > Thank you, that was the problem i told you about. I know it was, and I gave you the workaround. It worked fine. The patch is just better. :) Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ <[

Re: [E-devel] entrance configuration problem

2007-03-30 Thread Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy
Thank you, that was the problem i told you about. Brian On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 04:07:56PM -0400, Michael Jennings wrote: > On Friday, 30 March 2007, at 10:47:56 (-0700), > Glen Larsen wrote: > > > For entrance, autogen.sh is failing to fill in the PACKAGE_CFG_DIR > > properly. That is, after

Re: [E-devel] entrance configuration problem

2007-03-30 Thread Michael Jennings
On Friday, 30 March 2007, at 10:47:56 (-0700), Glen Larsen wrote: > For entrance, autogen.sh is failing to fill in the PACKAGE_CFG_DIR > properly. That is, after executing "./autogen.sh --prefix=/opt/e17" > the variable definition has not been substituted correctly: > > $ grep PACKAGE_CFG_DIR s

Re: [E-devel] entrance configuration problem

2007-03-30 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:47:56 -0700 Glen Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For entrance, autogen.sh is failing to fill in the PACKAGE_CFG_DIR > properly. That is, after executing "./autogen.sh --prefix=/opt/e17" > the variable definition has not been substituted correctly: > > $ grep PACKAGE_C

Re: [E-devel] entrance is now bloated.

2006-10-11 Thread Morten Nilsen
Essien Ita Essien wrote: >> .Xmodmap > Currently, entrance execl's /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession in the child fork. > I'll do some more tests and try to figure out what could go wrong... > i'm guessing its environment related. anyways, we'll see. Just an update; ~/.Xmodmap not installed when logging on wi

Re: [E-devel] entrance is now bloated.

2006-09-28 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 01:18:00 +0200 Morten Nilsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > OK - a quick check today: > > > > PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND > > 4183 root 15 0 79712 28m 5216 S0 2.9 0:35.94 Xor

Re: [E-devel] entrance is now bloated.

2006-09-27 Thread Essien Ita Essien
Morten Nilsen wrote: > Essien Ita Essien wrote: > >> Morten Nilsen wrote: >> >>> Sorry, mac.. still not getting my xmodmap installed.. >>> >>> >> Ok... I'll look more into this later at night today. Thnx for the feedback. >> > > Just throwing you a bone.. the .Xmodmap file is

Re: [E-devel] entrance is now bloated.

2006-09-27 Thread Morten Nilsen
Essien Ita Essien wrote: > Morten Nilsen wrote: >> Sorry, mac.. still not getting my xmodmap installed.. >> > Ok... I'll look more into this later at night today. Thnx for the feedback. Just throwing you a bone.. the .Xmodmap file is installed by /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc for startx and /etx/X11/x

Re: [E-devel] entrance is now bloated.

2006-09-27 Thread Essien Ita Essien
Morten Nilsen wrote: > Essien Ita Essien wrote: > >> Essien Ita Essien wrote: >> >>> correct... that should be what is causing the XModMap thingy, and the >>> extra entrance hanging around. Fix coming. >>> >>> >> The killer blow has been dealt, no more per user owned entrance proc

Re: [E-devel] entrance is now bloated.

2006-09-27 Thread Morten Nilsen
Essien Ita Essien wrote: > Essien Ita Essien wrote: >> correct... that should be what is causing the XModMap thingy, and the >> extra entrance hanging around. Fix coming. >> > The killer blow has been dealt, no more per user owned entrance process, > only good ole entrance_login and entranced a

Re: [E-devel] entrance is now bloated.

2006-09-27 Thread Essien Ita Essien
Essien Ita Essien wrote: > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 01:58:33 +0200 Morten Nilsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: >> >> >> >>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:58:36 +0100 Essien Ita Essien <[

Re: [E-devel] entrance is now bloated.

2006-09-27 Thread Essien Ita Essien
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 01:58:33 +0200 Morten Nilsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > >> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:58:36 +0100 Essien Ita Essien >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: >>> all fixed now.

Re: [E-devel] entrance is now bloated.

2006-09-27 Thread Essien Ita Essien
Eugen Minciu wrote: > On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 01:58:33 +0200 > Morten Nilsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:58:36 +0100 Essien Ita Essien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> babbled: >>> all fixed now. >>> ac

Re: [E-devel] entrance is now bloated.

2006-09-27 Thread Essien Ita Essien
Morten Nilsen wrote: > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:58:36 +0100 Essien Ita Essien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> babbled: >> >>> all fixed now. >>> >> actually not all fixed. 1 entrance process floating around. there's no need >> for >> it to hang abou

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