Re: [e-users] non-Latin characters in e17-cvs

2007-05-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 21 May 2007 21:41:42 +0100 Foxy [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Quoting Kent [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  On Sun, 20 May 2007 17:45:38 -0500, Foxy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Kent wrote:
  On Sun, 20 May 2007 15:25:23 -0500, Foxy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  I am using e17 from CVS (compiled with easy_e17 script). Unfortunately
  non-Latin characters (Cyrillic, Japanese etc) are displayed as squares
  (for example in emphasis and in title bar in Firefox). How can I make
  them display correctly.
 
 
 
  Change your default fonts to something besides Vera in the   
  configuration  dialog, you can see them in the example textbox   
  with extended characters.
 
 
  Also is there a keyboard layout indicator for e17?
 
 
  cvs e_modules/language  .. your milage may vary.
 
  --Kent
 
 
 
  thanks for the response. I've got Verdana as default, which shows   
  Japanese OK in the text box, but still I've got only squares in the  
   FF title bar :( btw, I cannot change the font at all: after  
  hitting  Apply and closing the config tool nothing changes and  
  opening  Configuration Panel shows Verdana as it was before.
 
  You have to check the enable font class for all of them that you
  change to verdana.
 
 Yes, I did that, but still got those squares.

try sans - not verdana. as long as evas built with fontconfig support this
should use the system sans and any fontsets configured for it for
international text display.

  I've got e_modules/language installed, but I have no idea how to   
  enable keyboard layout indicator :(
 
  Work with it, I think it handles the layout changes on its own, so if
  you're using other things it won't seem to work.
 
 Yes, I've got the layout config in X and it works fine in e17. The
 problem is that I need the indicator showing which layout is currently
 enabled.
 
 
 
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Re: [e-users] [e17] net and cpu modules

2007-05-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 21 May 2007 16:34:53 +0200 David Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

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 Christopher Michael wrote:
  David Moore wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I have e17 installed from cvs from the 17th of May.  The net and cpu
  modules no longer appear in the available modules list (as in, they're
  not in the enabled modules and they're not available to be enabled).  I
  can see the module files in the correct place ,alongside all the modules
  which are there.  Is this a fault in my setup, or is there something
  wrong with these modules at the moment?
 
  thanks,
  David Moore
  David,
  
  I just tested both these modules from a fresh cvs checkout and they work 
  fine. They show up in my modules list here.
  
  If I had to guess, I would say that the module.desktop is missing from 
  ~/.e/e/modules/net[cpu]. You can try removing ~/.e/e/modules/net[cpu] 
  and reinstall them...that should install the proper module.desktop so 
  that they show in your list.
  
  devilhorns
 
 Hi,
 
 
 Thanks for your help on this.  My .e/e/modules/ directory is empty.  I
 run Arch Linux, and I've set up all the libraries, applications and
 modules as packages which pull from CVS, build packages and then install
 under the prefix /opt/e17.  Below is the file list from the e17-net
 module package:
 
 /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/net/e-module-net.edj
 /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/net/linux-gnu-x86_64/module.a
 /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/net/linux-gnu-x86_64/module.so
 /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/net/module.desktop
 /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/net/net.edj
 /opt/e17/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/net.mo
 
 This is a file list of the e17-wlan package, a module which is working:
 
 /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/e-module-wlan.edj
 /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/linux-gnu-x86_64/module.a
 /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/linux-gnu-x86_64/module.so
 /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/module.desktop
 /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/wlan.edj
 /opt/e17/share/locale/eo/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
 /opt/e17/share/locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
 /opt/e17/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
 /opt/e17/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
 /opt/e17/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo

sloppy packaging. why package the module.a files? they are entirely unneeded.
als e-module-wlan.edje seems out of place - it's not in the src.

 The package manager makes sure old files get removed and so the files
 would all be up to date.  There is a module.desktop under a modules/net
 directory.  Any other ideas as to what could go wrong?
 
 TIA,
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Re: [e-users] non-Latin characters in e17-cvs

2007-05-22 Thread Daniel Stonier
On 22/05/07, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 21 May 2007 21:41:42 +0100 Foxy [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

  Quoting Kent [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   On Sun, 20 May 2007 17:45:38 -0500, Foxy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Kent wrote:
   On Sun, 20 May 2007 15:25:23 -0500, Foxy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   I am using e17 from CVS (compiled with easy_e17 script). Unfortunately
   non-Latin characters (Cyrillic, Japanese etc) are displayed as squares
   (for example in emphasis and in title bar in Firefox). How can I make
   them display correctly.
  
  
  
   Change your default fonts to something besides Vera in the
   configuration  dialog, you can see them in the example textbox
   with extended characters.
  
  
   Also is there a keyboard layout indicator for e17?
  
  
   cvs e_modules/language  .. your milage may vary.
  
   --Kent
  
  
  
   thanks for the response. I've got Verdana as default, which shows
   Japanese OK in the text box, but still I've got only squares in the
FF title bar :( btw, I cannot change the font at all: after
   hitting  Apply and closing the config tool nothing changes and
   opening  Configuration Panel shows Verdana as it was before.
  
   You have to check the enable font class for all of them that you
   change to verdana.
 
  Yes, I did that, but still got those squares.

 try sans - not verdana. as long as evas built with fontconfig support this
 should use the system sans and any fontsets configured for it for
 international text display.

I'm doing this at the moment but with sans-serif, it works fine. The
default sans font for korean was pretty ordinary though. It's pretty
easy to define your own preference for sans-serif though. I have a
file in ~/.fonts.conf:

?xml version=1.0?
!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM fonts.dtd
fontconfig
 alias
  familysans-serif/family
  prefer
   familyUnBom/family
   familyBitstream Vera Serif/family
   familyBaekmuk Batang/family
  /prefer
 /alias
/fontconfig

The original order was Vera then Baekmuk Batang, but the UnBom font is
much better. If you want Vera first and Unbom as a korean fallback,
just swap them around from what I have here.

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[e-users] Keyboard layout

2007-05-22 Thread Chris Stromblad
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Hi fellow E:rs.

Just wanted to ask if anyone know how to change the keyboard layout in
E17? I'm using a version of EFL and Enlightenment taken directly from
CVS today (works great!).

I've tried to look through what I could think of like
enlightenment-remote and folders under ~/.e, but have not managed to
find anything to change it.

Is there a kind soul out there who could direct me?

Regards,
Chris
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Re: [e-users] [e17] net and cpu modules

2007-05-22 Thread David Moore
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Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Mon, 21 May 2007 16:34:53 +0200 David Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
 
 Christopher Michael wrote:
 
 This is a file list of the e17-wlan package, a module which is working:
 
 /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/e-module-wlan.edj
 /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/linux-gnu-x86_64/module.a
 /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/linux-gnu-x86_64/module.so
 /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/module.desktop
 /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/wlan.edj
 /opt/e17/share/locale/eo/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
 /opt/e17/share/locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
 /opt/e17/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
 /opt/e17/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
 /opt/e17/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
 
 sloppy packaging. why package the module.a files? they are entirely unneeded.
 als e-module-wlan.edje seems out of place - it's not in the src.
 
This is neither more nor less than is put in place with a make
DESTDIR=$tempdir install, where tempdir is then turned into a .tar.gz
containing the above files.  If it's sloppy packaging, it's sloppy
installing on the part of the Makefile.  Or is there a reason that I
should exclude specific files that make install has included?

David Moore
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Re: [e-users] [e17] net and cpu modules

2007-05-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 22 May 2007 15:44:37 +0200 David Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

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 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  On Mon, 21 May 2007 16:34:53 +0200 David Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
  
  Christopher Michael wrote:
  
  This is a file list of the e17-wlan package, a module which is working:
  
  /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/e-module-wlan.edj
  /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/linux-gnu-x86_64/module.a
  /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/linux-gnu-x86_64/module.so
  /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/module.desktop
  /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/wlan.edj
  /opt/e17/share/locale/eo/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
  /opt/e17/share/locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
  /opt/e17/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
  /opt/e17/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
  /opt/e17/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
  
  sloppy packaging. why package the module.a files? they are entirely
  unneeded. als e-module-wlan.edje seems out of place - it's not in the src.
  
 This is neither more nor less than is put in place with a make
 DESTDIR=$tempdir install, where tempdir is then turned into a .tar.gz
 containing the above files.  If it's sloppy packaging, it's sloppy
 installing on the part of the Makefile.  Or is there a reason that I
 should exclude specific files that make install has included?

yes. modules should exclude *.a files. libtool insists on creating them and
installing them because it thinks its needed as we will then use them (libtldl
in theory can in combination with module.la). note that the sample package
files for e17 remove any .a's for modules
same for evas and emotion.

 David Moore
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Re: [e-users] [e17] net and cpu modules

2007-05-22 Thread Christopher Michael
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Tue, 22 May 2007 15:44:37 +0200 David Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
 
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 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Mon, 21 May 2007 16:34:53 +0200 David Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Christopher Michael wrote:

 This is a file list of the e17-wlan package, a module which is working:

 /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/e-module-wlan.edj
 /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/linux-gnu-x86_64/module.a
 /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/linux-gnu-x86_64/module.so
 /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/module.desktop
 /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/wlan.edj
 /opt/e17/share/locale/eo/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
 /opt/e17/share/locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
 /opt/e17/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
 /opt/e17/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
 /opt/e17/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo

 sloppy packaging. why package the module.a files? they are entirely
 unneeded. als e-module-wlan.edje seems out of place - it's not in the src.
 This is neither more nor less than is put in place with a make
 DESTDIR=$tempdir install, where tempdir is then turned into a .tar.gz
 containing the above files.  If it's sloppy packaging, it's sloppy
 installing on the part of the Makefile.  Or is there a reason that I
 should exclude specific files that make install has included?
 
 yes. modules should exclude *.a files. libtool insists on creating them and
 installing them because it thinks its needed as we will then use them (libtldl
 in theory can in combination with module.la). note that the sample package
 files for e17 remove any .a's for modules
 same for evas and emotion.
 
 David Moore
Raster,

I do have to (respectfully) disagree with you on this one. I just 
checked the official E modules installations, and they are also 
installing module.a files in /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/module.

dh


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Re: [e-users] [e17] net and cpu modules

2007-05-22 Thread Michael Jennings
On Tuesday, 22 May 2007, at 14:01:16 (-0400),
Christopher Michael wrote:

  yes. modules should exclude *.a files. libtool insists on creating them and
  installing them because it thinks its needed as we will then use them 
  (libtldl
  in theory can in combination with module.la). note that the sample package
  files for e17 remove any .a's for modules
  same for evas and emotion.
 
 I do have to (respectfully) disagree with you on this one. I just 
 checked the official E modules installations, and they are also 
 installing module.a files in /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/module.

No, raster's right.  Using libtool basically forces us to install the
*.a files with make install, but if you look at the spec files for
e, evas, etc., you'll see this:

rm -f `find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/lib/enlightenment -name *.a -print`

I think you were confused about what sample package files meant.

Michael

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Re: [e-users] non-Latin characters in e17-cvs

2007-05-22 Thread Foxy
Daniel Stonier wrote:
 On 22/05/07, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 21 May 2007 21:41:42 +0100 Foxy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 babbled:

  Quoting Kent [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   On Sun, 20 May 2007 17:45:38 -0500, Foxy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  
   Kent wrote:
   On Sun, 20 May 2007 15:25:23 -0500, Foxy 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   I am using e17 from CVS (compiled with easy_e17 script). 
 Unfortunately
   non-Latin characters (Cyrillic, Japanese etc) are displayed as 
 squares
   (for example in emphasis and in title bar in Firefox). How can 
 I make
   them display correctly.
  
  
  
   Change your default fonts to something besides Vera in the
   configuration  dialog, you can see them in the example textbox
   with extended characters.
  
  
   Also is there a keyboard layout indicator for e17?
  
  
   cvs e_modules/language  .. your milage may vary.
  
   --Kent
  
  
  
   thanks for the response. I've got Verdana as default, which shows
   Japanese OK in the text box, but still I've got only squares in the
FF title bar :( btw, I cannot change the font at all: after
   hitting  Apply and closing the config tool nothing changes and
   opening  Configuration Panel shows Verdana as it was before.
  
   You have to check the enable font class for all of them that you
   change to verdana.
 
  Yes, I did that, but still got those squares.

 try sans - not verdana. as long as evas built with fontconfig support 
 this
 should use the system sans and any fontsets configured for it for
 international text display.

 I'm doing this at the moment but with sans-serif, it works fine. The
 default sans font for korean was pretty ordinary though. It's pretty
 easy to define your own preference for sans-serif though. I have a
 file in ~/.fonts.conf:

 ?xml version=1.0?
 !DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM fonts.dtd
 fontconfig
 alias
  familysans-serif/family
  prefer
   familyUnBom/family
   familyBitstream Vera Serif/family
   familyBaekmuk Batang/family
  /prefer
 /alias
 /fontconfig

 The original order was Vera then Baekmuk Batang, but the UnBom font is
 much better. If you want Vera first and Unbom as a korean fallback,
 just swap them around from what I have here.
thanks, it looks like it works for the default team but has no effect on 
Clearlooks.
What about emphasis? Is there a way to define fonts for the playlist 
there? I've got squares all the way :(

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Re: [e-users] [e17] net and cpu modules

2007-05-22 Thread Christopher Michael
Michael Jennings wrote:
 On Tuesday, 22 May 2007, at 14:01:16 (-0400),
 Christopher Michael wrote:
 
 yes. modules should exclude *.a files. libtool insists on creating them and
 installing them because it thinks its needed as we will then use them 
 (libtldl
 in theory can in combination with module.la). note that the sample package
 files for e17 remove any .a's for modules
 same for evas and emotion.
 I do have to (respectfully) disagree with you on this one. I just 
 checked the official E modules installations, and they are also 
 installing module.a files in /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/module.
 
 No, raster's right.  Using libtool basically forces us to install the
 *.a files with make install, but if you look at the spec files for
 e, evas, etc., you'll see this:
 
 rm -f `find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/lib/enlightenment -name *.a -print`
 
 I think you were confused about what sample package files meant.
 
 Michael
 
My confusion is Very Possible Michael :) I know barely nothing of 
packaging...was just simply stating that they do get installed via 
make install from a normal cvs build :) No disrespect intended to 
anyone.

dh


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[e-users] How Do I....?

2007-05-22 Thread Figaro
running Debian Unstable.
Just did an upgrade.. now my e-17 has file icons all over my desktop.
I HATE desktop icons especially and always loved the fact that with E
one could make that crap disappear. This time though I have not been
able to either make them transparent or to find the hide Desktop files.
Any help would be MUCH appreciated.
thank you,
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Re: [e-users] Keyboard layout

2007-05-22 Thread David Seikel
On Tue, 22 May 2007 15:23:01 + Chris Stromblad
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just wanted to ask if anyone know how to change the keyboard layout in
 E17? I'm using a version of EFL and Enlightenment taken directly from
 CVS today (works great!).

The language module in e_modules/language switches keyboard layouts.

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Re: [e-users] How Do I....?

2007-05-22 Thread David Seikel
On Tue, 22 May 2007 20:10:27 +0100 Figaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just did an upgrade.. now my e-17 has file icons all over my desktop.
 I HATE desktop icons especially and always loved the fact that with E
 one could make that crap disappear. This time though I have not been
 able to either make them transparent or to find the hide Desktop
 files. Any help would be MUCH appreciated.
 thank you,

E17 now follows the standard of putting icons on your desktop if there
are *.desktop files in your ~/Desktop directory.  You could delete those
files to get rid of the icons.  On the other hand, this is a recent
addition, there may be configuration options added later.

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Re: [e-users] How Do I....?

2007-05-22 Thread Christopher Michael
Figaro wrote:
 running Debian Unstable.
 Just did an upgrade.. now my e-17 has file icons all over my desktop.
 I HATE desktop icons especially and always loved the fact that with E
 one could make that crap disappear. This time though I have not been
 able to either make them transparent or to find the hide Desktop files.
 Any help would be MUCH appreciated.
 thank you,
 matthew

This is a very new feature in E (within the last week or so), as such it 
is still being fleshed out  not all options are present at this point 
in time. Aside from removing all files in ~/Desktop (which may or may 
not be what you want todo), there is no way (as of yet) to disable this 
feature. Give it some time and the option may be present in the future.

Cheers,
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[e-users] Temperature Module

2007-05-22 Thread Isaac Ortega
Hello,

The temperature mod reads 'Temp' instead of displaying the actual 
temperature.  I have a temp probe, and I can read the temperature in 
BIOS.  Do I need to install a certain kernel module in order for this to 
work?

Thanks
Isaac



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[e-users] System Tray

2007-05-22 Thread Jackie C. Smith II
Thank you for adding me to your mail list. I have looked at the FAQ and 
unless I missed it, I did not see my situation there. That being said, I 
installed e17 on my existing Linux Mint (using edgy 6.10). It works 
wonderfully, however, I noticed that there is no system tray available. 
There is no way to see my programs that are running in the background. 
Such as, (any) messenger, Amarok. While with most programs, all I need 
to do to activate the active program is to click on that programs 
starter, programs like Skype will open a new window leaving no way to 
access the already opened window.

Thank you in advance for considering this situation.

Clyde9

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[e-users] Evas on DirectFB questions

2007-05-22 Thread steph8501-e
Hi,
   
  I have some questions about Evas on DirectFB.
  I made some tests of Evas on an embedded system, first on framebuffer and 
then with DirectFB.
  And the result is that Framebuffer test is really faster than DirectFB one. 
There's practically a factor 2 between them.
  Does anybody knows why there is such a difference between them ? (I checked 
and DirectFB use the acceleration of my system.)
   
  I looked at DirectFB module in Evas source code. I saw that a 32 bits ARGB 
backbuf is used. Why this choice has been made instead of a 16bits RGB for 
example ?
   
  Thanks for yours answers,
   
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Re: [e-users] System Tray

2007-05-22 Thread Mirek
Hi, I am using trayer:

/usr/bin/trayer --widthtype request --heighttype pixel --height 24 
--edge bottom --align right --alpha 100 --transparent true --margin 0 
--distance 40 

Mirek

Jackie C. Smith II napsal(a):
 Thank you for adding me to your mail list. I have looked at the FAQ and 
 unless I missed it, I did not see my situation there. That being said, I 
 installed e17 on my existing Linux Mint (using edgy 6.10). It works 
 wonderfully, however, I noticed that there is no system tray available. 
 There is no way to see my programs that are running in the background. 
 Such as, (any) messenger, Amarok. While with most programs, all I need 
 to do to activate the active program is to click on that programs 
 starter, programs like Skype will open a new window leaving no way to 
 access the already opened window.
 
 Thank you in advance for considering this situation.
 
 Clyde9
 
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Re: [e-users] How Do I....?

2007-05-22 Thread Figaro
Yep, exactly what I did.. mkdir old.desktop then
mv /home/./Desktop /home//old.desktop; then restart e-17.
So at least a work around for now.
Thank you.
matthew

On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 15:20 -0400, Christopher Michael wrote:
 Figaro wrote:
  running Debian Unstable.
  Just did an upgrade.. now my e-17 has file icons all over my desktop.
  I HATE desktop icons especially and always loved the fact that with E
  one could make that crap disappear. This time though I have not been
  able to either make them transparent or to find the hide Desktop files.
  Any help would be MUCH appreciated.
  thank you,
  matthew
 
 This is a very new feature in E (within the last week or so), as such it 
 is still being fleshed out  not all options are present at this point 
 in time. Aside from removing all files in ~/Desktop (which may or may 
 not be what you want todo), there is no way (as of yet) to disable this 
 feature. Give it some time and the option may be present in the future.
 
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Re: [e-users] [e17] net and cpu modules

2007-05-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 22 May 2007 14:01:16 -0400 Christopher Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:

 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  On Tue, 22 May 2007 15:44:37 +0200 David Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
  
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  Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  On Mon, 21 May 2007 16:34:53 +0200 David Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  babbled:
 
  Christopher Michael wrote:
 
  This is a file list of the e17-wlan package, a module which is working:
 
  /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/e-module-wlan.edj
  /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/linux-gnu-x86_64/module.a
  /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/linux-gnu-x86_64/module.so
  /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/module.desktop
  /opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/modules/wlan/wlan.edj
  /opt/e17/share/locale/eo/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
  /opt/e17/share/locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
  /opt/e17/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
  /opt/e17/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
  /opt/e17/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/wlan.mo
 
  sloppy packaging. why package the module.a files? they are entirely
  unneeded. als e-module-wlan.edje seems out of place - it's not in the
  src.
  This is neither more nor less than is put in place with a make
  DESTDIR=$tempdir install, where tempdir is then turned into a .tar.gz
  containing the above files.  If it's sloppy packaging, it's sloppy
  installing on the part of the Makefile.  Or is there a reason that I
  should exclude specific files that make install has included?
  
  yes. modules should exclude *.a files. libtool insists on creating them and
  installing them because it thinks its needed as we will then use them
  (libtldl in theory can in combination with module.la). note that the sample
  package files for e17 remove any .a's for modules
  same for evas and emotion.
  
  David Moore
 Raster,
 
 I do have to (respectfully) disagree with you on this one. I just 
 checked the official E modules installations, and they are also 
 installing module.a files in /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/module.

that's what i said. libtool insists on creating AND installing them. it's
partof libtool and how it decides to build and install things when it comes to
loadable modules. it ASSUMEs we will use libltdl to load them. libltdl CAN
load .a files if you also have a .la file - for systems that do
not support .so's. thankfully for us - we don't care about systems that do NOT
support .so's (if you have one - too bad. it probably should have died long
ago, like 20 years ago). libtool is just being utterly stupid with
regards to modules. packages should strip .a's and 'la's for modules out. unless
you know some magic hidden libtool foo that will stop this from happening? i
have yet to find/know of any.

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Re: [e-users] How Do I....?

2007-05-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 22 May 2007 20:10:27 +0100 Figaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

considered deleting them?

 running Debian Unstable.
 Just did an upgrade.. now my e-17 has file icons all over my desktop.
 I HATE desktop icons especially and always loved the fact that with E
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Re: [e-users] Temperature Module

2007-05-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:52:48 -0700 Isaac Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Hello,
 
 The temperature mod reads 'Temp' instead of displaying the actual 
 temperature.  I have a temp probe, and I can read the temperature in 
 BIOS.  Do I need to install a certain kernel module in order for this to 
 work?

the temperature module looks at a few places. 

/proc/acpi/thermal_zone...
/proc/omnibook/temperature...
/sys/devices/temperatures/cpu_temperature...
/sys/bus/i2c/devices/...

got temp sensors here - it will find one. if not - then it won't.

 Thanks
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Re: [e-users] System Tray

2007-05-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 03 May 2007 12:19:22 -0600 Jackie C. Smith II
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:


there is, and will be, no system tray support in e17. use something else like
trayer.

 Thank you for adding me to your mail list. I have looked at the FAQ and 
 unless I missed it, I did not see my situation there. That being said, I 
 installed e17 on my existing Linux Mint (using edgy 6.10). It works 
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 There is no way to see my programs that are running in the background. 
 Such as, (any) messenger, Amarok. While with most programs, all I need 
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Re: [e-users] Evas on DirectFB questions

2007-05-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 9 May 2007 13:40:36 +0200 (CEST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Hi,

   I have some questions about Evas on DirectFB.
   I made some tests of Evas on an embedded system, first on framebuffer and
 then with DirectFB. And the result is that Framebuffer test is really faster
 than DirectFB one. There's practically a factor 2 between them. Does anybody
 knows why there is such a difference between them ? (I checked and DirectFB
 use the acceleration of my system.) I looked at DirectFB module in Evas
 source code. I saw that a 32 bits ARGB backbuf is used. Why this choice has
 been made instead of a 16bits RGB for example ? Thanks for yours answers,

32bit doesn't lose quality. it also easily suports an inline alpha channel.
16bit does not. you need to do a separate alpha plane. also its lower quality.
the software enigne is 32bit. also remember evas's dfb engine is very much a
2nd class citizen and is mostly not maintained.

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