Re: [e-users] E versionning and testing

2018-05-09 Thread Dave
Yeah, that's what I thought when I first came across it. I never fully trust Nvidia drivers for resuming from suspend (virtual terminal goes blank, always). Weird how E21 actually works fine with resuming, though. Not sure what E22 is doing to trigger a possible driver bug. Anyway, I'll remem

Re: [e-users] E versionning and testing

2018-05-09 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 10 May 2018 13:13:41 +1000 Dave said: > In the year 2018, of the month of May, on the 9th day, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > Last week, I show up for a work meeting, I open my laptop, everything is > > hosed/hung. I try to restart E, it won't restart. I forget why but that > > time I actually h

Re: [e-users] E versionning and testing

2018-05-09 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 9 May 2018 22:11:20 -0700 Marc MERLIN said: > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 03:04:03PM +1000, Daniel Kasak wrote: > > This is probably a driver issue, and not E. > > That what Raster said when I first reported this, I believe him, but at the > end of the day, it doesn't matter. well i mention

Re: [e-users] E versionning and testing

2018-05-09 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 10 May 2018 15:37:54 +1000 Daniel Kasak said: > It's more likely that you've received a kernel upgrade that's broken > resuming from suspension. I've have the bitter experience of a long line of > integrated Intel GPUs, and they have NEVER been stable resuming from > suspension for me. Si

Re: [e-users] E versionning and testing

2018-05-09 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Wed, 9 May 2018 09:33:07 -0700 Marc MERLIN said: > I'll change the title for the different discussion. > > First a question: does the version number mean what I think it means, or > does it really not mean much? > My guess/expectation is that > 0.21.0 start with new features > 0.21.x gets tw

Re: [e-users] E versionning and testing

2018-05-09 Thread Daniel Kasak
It's more likely that you've received a kernel upgrade that's broken resuming from suspension. I've have the bitter experience of a long line of integrated Intel GPUs, and they have NEVER been stable resuming from suspension for me. Since the meltdown / spectre patches landed, that seems to have go

Re: [e-users] E versionning and testing

2018-05-09 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 03:04:03PM +1000, Daniel Kasak wrote: > This is probably a driver issue, and not E. That what Raster said when I first reported this, I believe him, but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. 1) E changed to do new more fancy stuff I didn't need. 2) It triggers bugs in X

Re: [e-users] E versionning and testing

2018-05-09 Thread Daniel Kasak
This is probably a driver issue, and not E. On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Dave wrote: > In the year 2018, of the month of May, on the 9th day, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > Last week, I show up for a work meeting, I open my laptop, everything is > > hosed/hung. I try to restart E, it won't restart.

Re: [e-users] E versionning and testing

2018-05-09 Thread Dave
In the year 2018, of the month of May, on the 9th day, Marc MERLIN wrote: > Last week, I show up for a work meeting, I open my laptop, everything is > hosed/hung. I try to restart E, it won't restart. I forget why but that > time I actually had to restart X. Time lost, people looking at me. Just

Re: [e-users] E versionning and testing

2018-05-09 Thread Marc MERLIN
I'll change the title for the different discussion. First a question: does the version number mean what I think it means, or does it really not mean much? My guess/expectation is that 0.21.0 start with new features 0.21.x gets tweaks and bug fixes 0.21.11 is the last from that featureset branch a