Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-07-24 Thread James Andrewartha
On 25/07/17 00:10, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
> Given the report about this still being an issue in 52.2.1 we're still
> investigating. The developers have requested an http log from someone
> who is able to reproduce the issue. Details on creating an http log at are
> 
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Debugging/HTTP_logging#Using_aboutnetworking

I'd also be interested if people could try with Firefox 55, there have
been some big performance improvements that have landed there (with more
to come in 56 and 57): https://ehsanakhgari.org/tag/quantumflow
Personally I'm looking forward to better session restore times
https://metafluff.com/2017/07/21/i-am-a-tab-hoarder/

Note that v55 has backwards-incompatible profile changes, so use a fresh
profile for testing.

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Network & Projects Engineer
Christ Church Grammar School
Claremont, Western Australia
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Mob. 0424 160 877
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-07-24 Thread Hendrik Noack
I have the same problem when I try to open www.der-postillion.com 
<http://www.der-postillion.com> . The page starts loading and then takes a 
longer break where FF is completely hanging. After 4 – 5 minutes FF continues 
to load the page.

 

2017-07-24 17:57:32.938000 UTC - [Socket Thread]: D/nsSocketTransport STS poll 
iter

2017-07-24 17:57:32.938000 UTC - [Socket Thread]: D/nsSocketTransport   calling 
PR_Poll [active=0 idle=0]

2017-07-24 17:57:32.938000 UTC - [Socket Thread]: D/nsSocketTransport 
timeout = -1 milliseconds

2017-07-24 18:02:44.666000 UTC - [Main Thread]: D/nsHostResolver Resolving host 
[www-blogger-opensocial.googleusercontent.com].

2017-07-24 18:02:44.666000 UTC - [Main Thread]: D/nsHostResolver   No usable 
address in cache for host [www-blogger-opensocial.googleusercontent.com].

2017-07-24 18:02:44.667000 UTC - [Main Thread]: D/nsHostResolver   DNS thread 
counters: total=1 any-live=0 idle=0 pending=1

2017-07-24 18:02:44.667000 UTC - [Main Thread]: D/nsHostResolver   DNS lookup 
for host [www-blogger-opensocial.googleusercontent.com] blocking pending 
'getaddrinfo' query: callback [2742d118a60]

2017-07-24 18:02:44.667000 UTC - [Main Thread]: V/nsHttp 
HttpBaseChannel::SetRequestHeader [this=27463ad7000 header="DNT" value="1" 
merge=0]

 

As you can see the hanging occours between 17:57:32 and 18:02:44. Every click 
on a link on that page gives me another break.

 

The full log can be downloaded here: 
https://www.schwabstrasse.me/owncloud/s/P76A2DCfUzqBx8G

 

 

 

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards
   
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Von: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] Im Auftrag von Lawrence 
Mandel
Gesendet: Montag, 24. Juli 2017 18:11
An: Andrew C Aitchison <and...@aitchison.me.uk>
Cc: enterprise owner <enterprise@mozilla.org>
Betreff: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

 

Given the report about this still being an issue in 52.2.1 we're still 
investigating. The developers have requested an http log from someone who is 
able to reproduce the issue. Details on creating an http log at are

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Debugging/HTTP_logging#Using_aboutnetworking

Thanks,

Lawrence

 

On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Andrew C Aitchison <and...@aitchison.me.uk 
<mailto:and...@aitchison.me.uk> > wrote:


Or, could the delay be some DNS lookup which times out ?

Firefox has its own DNS cache (which can be overridden).
Maybe the switch to multi-threading has done something to the DNS handling ?



On Sat, 1 Jul 2017, stein.wm wrote:

Perhaps it's the Virus Protection. E. g. on my PC a new version of Avira (after 
last product update from 2017-June-02) now tries to sent requests home with 
every suspection or internet request. If the firewall blocks this, the virus 
protection delays the start of the intercepted module for a trial period of 
about half a minute. 
But this effect should also occur with other software, it is not limited to the 
new Firefox version. 
stein.wm


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org 
<mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org> ] Im Auftrag von Remy Molenaar
Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Juli 2017 08:50
An: Jim Weill
Cc: enterprise@mozilla.org <mailto:enterprise@mozilla.org> 
Betreff: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

I have that problem also with the official version. I'm still not sure what the 
problem is. I've noticed that it occurs only with internet pages, none 
internal. First I thought it was my ad blocker. But I did a clean install (with 
clean profile) and having the issue back again. 

I'm on Windows 7 Pro btw.


Remy 
Op 30 jun. 2017 om 19:23 heeft Jim Weill <moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu 
<mailto:moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu> > het volgende geschreven:



I don't know about anyone else, but I am still having the slowness 
issue with Firefox, even after upgrading to the (unannounced) 52.2.1 release.  
For this reason I am pushing Chrome to our users because we cannot keep having 
random page timeouts slowing us down like this.

I cannot find a way to recreate the issue, other than at least once per 
hour the whole browser stops loading pages and it takes anywhere from 30-60 
seconds before I can use firefox again.  I can open new tabs and start trying 
to load pages, but none of them load until whatever is bottle-necking the 
browser finally releases.

jim



On 6/6/2017 11:50 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:


Thanks Samuel. As a follow up, I have filed 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.o

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-07-24 Thread Jim Weill
My generated logs are far larger than the bug report can upload -- four 
files were created that all come in at 45+ MB each. Compressing them 
results in an 18MB zip file, which is still too large, even for email.  
How do I upload these logs?


jim

On 7/24/2017 10:37 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:

I didn't say how to get your logs to Mozilla. Here are two ways:

1. Post your logs to Bugzilla. Use 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629 
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629>
2. Email your logs to me privately. Please let me know if you're OK 
with me posting your logs to Bugzilla. If not, I'll share them with 
the developers directly and ask that they be deleted when we're done 
analyzing them.


Thanks,

Lawrence

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Lawrence Mandel <lman...@mozilla.com 
<mailto:lman...@mozilla.com>> wrote:


Given the report about this still being an issue in 52.2.1 we're
still investigating. The developers have requested an http log
from someone who is able to reproduce the issue. Details on
creating an http log at are


https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Debugging/HTTP_logging#Using_aboutnetworking

<https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Debugging/HTTP_logging#Using_aboutnetworking>

Thanks,

Lawrence

On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Andrew C Aitchison
<and...@aitchison.me.uk <mailto:and...@aitchison.me.uk>> wrote:


Or, could the delay be some DNS lookup which times out ?

Firefox has its own DNS cache (which can be overridden).
Maybe the switch to multi-threading has done something to the
DNS handling ?


On Sat, 1 Jul 2017, stein.wm wrote:

Perhaps it's the Virus Protection. E. g. on my PC a new
version of Avira (after last product update from
2017-June-02) now tries to sent requests home with every
suspection or internet request. If the firewall blocks
this, the virus protection delays the start of the
intercepted module for a trial period of about half a minute.
But this effect should also occur with other software, it
is not limited to the new Firefox version.
stein.wm


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org
<mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org>] Im Auftrag von
Remy Molenaar
Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Juli 2017 08:50
An: Jim Weill
Cc: enterprise@mozilla.org <mailto:enterprise@mozilla.org>
        Betreff: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after
update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

I have that problem also with the official version. I'm
still not sure what the problem is. I've noticed that it
occurs only with internet pages, none internal. First I
thought it was my ad blocker. But I did a clean install
(with clean profile) and having the issue back again.

I'm on Windows 7 Pro btw.


Remy
Op 30 jun. 2017 om 19:23 heeft Jim Weill
<moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu
<mailto:moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu>> het volgende geschreven:



I don't know about anyone else, but I am still
having the slowness issue with Firefox, even after
upgrading to the (unannounced) 52.2.1 release.  For this
reason I am pushing Chrome to our users because we cannot
keep having random page timeouts slowing us down like this.

I cannot find a way to recreate the issue, other
than at least once per hour the whole browser stops
loading pages and it takes anywhere from 30-60 seconds
before I can use firefox again.  I can open new tabs and
start trying to load pages, but none of them load until
whatever is bottle-necking the browser finally releases.

jim



On 6/6/2017 11:50 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:


Thanks Samuel. As a follow up, I have
filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629>


Lawrence


On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Samuel
Ambaye <samuel.amb...@oakfnd.ch
<mailto:samuel.amb...@oakfnd.ch>> wrote:


We noticed the issue when one of
our users reported a similar issue following a minor
version ESR update:

Using FF 45.9.0.6310 & Windows 7.
(1) Start FF
(2) goto this URL

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-07-24 Thread Lawrence Mandel
I didn't say how to get your logs to Mozilla. Here are two ways:

1. Post your logs to Bugzilla. Use https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
show_bug.cgi?id=1370629
2. Email your logs to me privately. Please let me know if you're OK with me
posting your logs to Bugzilla. If not, I'll share them with the developers
directly and ask that they be deleted when we're done analyzing them.

Thanks,

Lawrence

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Lawrence Mandel <lman...@mozilla.com>
wrote:

> Given the report about this still being an issue in 52.2.1 we're still
> investigating. The developers have requested an http log from someone who
> is able to reproduce the issue. Details on creating an http log at are
>
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Debugging/
> HTTP_logging#Using_aboutnetworking
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lawrence
>
> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Andrew C Aitchison <and...@aitchison.me.uk
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> Or, could the delay be some DNS lookup which times out ?
>>
>> Firefox has its own DNS cache (which can be overridden).
>> Maybe the switch to multi-threading has done something to the DNS
>> handling ?
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 1 Jul 2017, stein.wm wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps it's the Virus Protection. E. g. on my PC a new version of Avira
>>> (after last product update from 2017-June-02) now tries to sent requests
>>> home with every suspection or internet request. If the firewall blocks
>>> this, the virus protection delays the start of the intercepted module for a
>>> trial period of about half a minute.
>>> But this effect should also occur with other software, it is not limited
>>> to the new Firefox version.
>>> stein.wm
>>>
>>>
>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>> Von: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] Im Auftrag von
>>> Remy Molenaar
>>> Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Juli 2017 08:50
>>> An: Jim Weill
>>> Cc: enterprise@mozilla.org
>>> Betreff: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from
>>> 45.9->52.1 ESR
>>>
>>> I have that problem also with the official version. I'm still not sure
>>> what the problem is. I've noticed that it occurs only with internet pages,
>>> none internal. First I thought it was my ad blocker. But I did a clean
>>> install (with clean profile) and having the issue back again.
>>>
>>> I'm on Windows 7 Pro btw.
>>>
>>>
>>> Remy
>>> Op 30 jun. 2017 om 19:23 heeft Jim Weill <moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu>
>>> het volgende geschreven:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know about anyone else, but I am still having the
>>> slowness issue with Firefox, even after upgrading to the (unannounced)
>>> 52.2.1 release.  For this reason I am pushing Chrome to our users because
>>> we cannot keep having random page timeouts slowing us down like this.
>>>
>>> I cannot find a way to recreate the issue, other than at least
>>> once per hour the whole browser stops loading pages and it takes anywhere
>>> from 30-60 seconds before I can use firefox again.  I can open new tabs and
>>> start trying to load pages, but none of them load until whatever is
>>> bottle-necking the browser finally releases.
>>>
>>> jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/6/2017 11:50 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Samuel. As a follow up, I have filed
>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629
>>>
>>>
>>> Lawrence
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Samuel Ambaye <
>>> samuel.amb...@oakfnd.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> We noticed the issue when one of our users
>>> reported a similar issue following a minor version ESR update:
>>>
>>> Using FF 45.9.0.6310 & Windows 7.
>>> (1) Start FF
>>> (2) goto this URL www.lematin.ch (newspaper in
>>> Geneva, Switzerland)
>>> Results: Browser waits for the page to load for
>>> two-three minutes to load (but would actually load);
>>> Results: Other browsers, No issue;
>>> (4) Close browser
>>> Browser hangs and requires a kill process.
>>> (5) Restart Browser and Try differ

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-07-07 Thread Andrew C Aitchison


Or, could the delay be some DNS lookup which times out ?

Firefox has its own DNS cache (which can be overridden).
Maybe the switch to multi-threading has done something to the DNS handling ?

On Sat, 1 Jul 2017, stein.wm wrote:

Perhaps it's the Virus Protection. 
E. g. on my PC a new version of Avira (after last product update from 2017-June-02) now tries to sent requests home with every suspection or internet request. If the firewall blocks this, the virus protection delays the start of the intercepted module for a trial period of about half a minute. 

But this effect should also occur with other software, it is not limited to the new Firefox version. 


stein.wm


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] Im Auftrag von Remy 
Molenaar
Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Juli 2017 08:50
An: Jim Weill
Cc: enterprise@mozilla.org
Betreff: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

I have that problem also with the official version. I'm still not sure what the problem is. I've noticed that it occurs only with internet pages, none internal. First I thought it was my ad blocker. But I did a clean install (with clean profile) and having the issue back again. 



I'm on Windows 7 Pro btw.


Remy 


Op 30 jun. 2017 om 19:23 heeft Jim Weill <moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu> het 
volgende geschreven:



I don't know about anyone else, but I am still having the slowness 
issue with Firefox, even after upgrading to the (unannounced) 52.2.1 release.  
For this reason I am pushing Chrome to our users because we cannot keep having 
random page timeouts slowing us down like this.

I cannot find a way to recreate the issue, other than at least once per 
hour the whole browser stops loading pages and it takes anywhere from 30-60 
seconds before I can use firefox again.  I can open new tabs and start trying 
to load pages, but none of them load until whatever is bottle-necking the 
browser finally releases.

jim



On 6/6/2017 11:50 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:


Thanks Samuel. As a follow up, I have filed 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629


Lawrence


On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Samuel Ambaye 
<samuel.amb...@oakfnd.ch> wrote:


We noticed the issue when one of our users reported a 
similar issue following a minor version ESR update:

Using FF 45.9.0.6310 & Windows 7.
(1) Start FF
(2) goto this URL www.lematin.ch (newspaper in Geneva, 
Switzerland)
Results: Browser waits for the page to load for 
two-three minutes to load (but would actually load);
Results: Other browsers, No issue;
(4) Close browser
Browser hangs and requires a kill process.
(5) Restart Browser and Try different web sites, even 
ones that were ok before;
Results: Browser waits for web site for over two / 
three minutes;
(5) Kill Process, Restart browser and repeat step 2 and 
5:
Same Result;
(6) Kill Process, Replace FF user profile and repeat 
step 2 and 5:
Same Result;
(7) Uninstall FF for users who were affected; Install 
FF 52.1.0.6316
Issue no longer reproducible

We hope this helps.

Best,
Samuel



>>> Jim Weill <moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu> 19/05/2017 00:17 
>>>

I notice the issue when I first open FF in the morning 
on Windows 7 Pro
x64 machines.  After that I cannot come up with a 
reliable way to
reproduce this issue, other than it happens at random 
times throughout
the day.

I do not notice this on Mac OSX 10.12 at all (we have a 
few of these).
And I have not polled our Linux users on this issue, so 
I do not know
where that stands.

Is there something in the dev tools that I can leave 
open when this
happens again to try to narrow this down?  I've had 
this happen several
times today already.

jim


On 5/11/2017 11:51 AM, Phil Pishioneri wrote:
> On 5/11/17 2:06 PM, Julien Cristau wrote:
>> we've filed a bug at
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1361865 
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1361865>  to investigate
>&g

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-07-07 Thread Andrew C Aitchison

On Mon, 3 Jul 2017, William Spratt wrote:


Since updating to 52.2.0esr and updating Flash to 26.0.0.126 the
issue has apparently disappeared (which now inevitably will result
in it happening as soon as I send this e-mail).


http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/about/ suggests that the
latest flash plugin for firefox is 26.0.0.131

Can you confirm that you *up*graded to 26.0.0.126 ?

Thanks,

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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-07-03 Thread William Spratt
Since updating to 52.2.0esr and updating Flash to 26.0.0.126 the issue has 
apparently disappeared (which now inevitably will result in it happening as 
soon as I send this e-mail). 

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-Original Message-
From: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] On Behalf Of stein.wm
Sent: 01 July 2017 12:49
To: 'Remy Molenaar' <remymolen...@dsw.nl>; 'Jim Weill' 
<moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu>
Cc: enterprise@mozilla.org
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

Perhaps it's the Virus Protection. 
E. g. on my PC a new version of Avira (after last product update from 
2017-June-02) now tries to sent requests home with every suspection or internet 
request. If the firewall blocks this, the virus protection delays the start of 
the intercepted module for a trial period of about half a minute. 

But this effect should also occur with other software, it is not limited to the 
new Firefox version. 

stein.wm
 

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] Im Auftrag von Remy 
Molenaar
Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Juli 2017 08:50
An: Jim Weill
Cc: enterprise@mozilla.org
Betreff: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

I have that problem also with the official version. I'm still not sure what the 
problem is. I've noticed that it occurs only with internet pages, none 
internal. First I thought it was my ad blocker. But I did a clean install (with 
clean profile) and having the issue back again. 


I'm on Windows 7 Pro btw.


Remy 

Op 30 jun. 2017 om 19:23 heeft Jim Weill <moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu> het 
volgende geschreven:



I don't know about anyone else, but I am still having the slowness 
issue with Firefox, even after upgrading to the (unannounced) 52.2.1 release.  
For this reason I am pushing Chrome to our users because we cannot keep having 
random page timeouts slowing us down like this.

I cannot find a way to recreate the issue, other than at least once per 
hour the whole browser stops loading pages and it takes anywhere from 30-60 
seconds before I can use firefox again.  I can open new tabs and start trying 
to load pages, but none of them load until whatever is bottle-necking the 
browser finally releases.

jim



On 6/6/2017 11:50 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:


Thanks Samuel. As a follow up, I have filed 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629


Lawrence


On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Samuel Ambaye 
<samuel.amb...@oakfnd.ch> wrote:


We noticed the issue when one of our users reported a 
similar issue following a minor version ESR update:

Using FF 45.9.0.6310 & Windows 7.
(1) Start FF
(2) goto this URL www.lematin.ch (newspaper in Geneva, 
Switzerland)
Results: Browser waits for the page to load for 
two-three minutes to load (but would actually load);
Results: Other browsers, No issue;
(4) Close browser
Browser hangs and requires a kill process.
(5) Restart Browser and Try different web sites, even 
ones that were ok before;
Results: Browser waits for web site for over two / 
three minutes;
(5) Kill Process, Restart browser and repeat step 2 and 
5:
Same Result;
(6) Kill Process, Replace FF user profile and repeat 
step 2 and 5:
Same Result;
(7) Uninstall FF for users who were affected; Install 
FF 52.1.0.6316
Issue no longer reproducible

We hope this helps.

Best,
Samuel



>>> Jim Weill <moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu> 19/05/2017 
00:17 >>>

I notice the issue when I first open FF in the morning 
on Windows 7 Pro
x64 machines.  After that I cannot come up with a 
reliable way to
reproduce this issue, other than it happens at random 
times throughout
the day.

I do not notice this on Mac OSX 10.12 at all (we have a 
few of these).
And I have not polled our Linux users on this issue, so 
I do not know
where that stands.


Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-07-03 Thread Tiago Marques Delboni
We have experienced such behavior before. Here in Brazil, the banks 
usually force the installation of "security modules" in order to access 
their home banking solutions. For example: 
http://www.dieboldnixdorf.com.br/warsaw.


It imposes a heavy impact on machine's performance, messing around 
browsers, java, email clients and operating system in general. Its 
destructive power is bigger than a virus and an antivirus combined! ;)


*Tiago Marques Delboni*
Gerência de Aplicações e Suporte a Clientes / GTI
(31) 2108-7700

Assembleia Legislativa de Minas Gerais <http://www.almg.gov.br> 	 
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Assembleia <http://www.instagram.com/assembleiademinas> Youtube da 
Assembleia <http://www.youtube.com/assembleiamg/>


Em 01/07/2017 08:48, stein.wm escreveu:

Perhaps it's the Virus Protection.
E. g. on my PC a new version of Avira (after last product update from 
2017-June-02) now tries to sent requests home with every suspection or internet 
request. If the firewall blocks this, the virus protection delays the start of 
the intercepted module for a trial period of about half a minute.

But this effect should also occur with other software, it is not limited to the 
new Firefox version.

stein.wm
  


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] Im Auftrag von Remy 
Molenaar
Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Juli 2017 08:50
An: Jim Weill
Cc: enterprise@mozilla.org
Betreff: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

I have that problem also with the official version. I'm still not sure what the 
problem is. I've noticed that it occurs only with internet pages, none 
internal. First I thought it was my ad blocker. But I did a clean install (with 
clean profile) and having the issue back again.


I'm on Windows 7 Pro btw.


Remy

Op 30 jun. 2017 om 19:23 heeft Jim Weill <moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu> het 
volgende geschreven:



I don't know about anyone else, but I am still having the slowness 
issue with Firefox, even after upgrading to the (unannounced) 52.2.1 release.  
For this reason I am pushing Chrome to our users because we cannot keep having 
random page timeouts slowing us down like this.

I cannot find a way to recreate the issue, other than at least once per 
hour the whole browser stops loading pages and it takes anywhere from 30-60 
seconds before I can use firefox again.  I can open new tabs and start trying 
to load pages, but none of them load until whatever is bottle-necking the 
browser finally releases.

jim



On 6/6/2017 11:50 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:


Thanks Samuel. As a follow up, I have filed 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629


Lawrence


On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Samuel Ambaye 
<samuel.amb...@oakfnd.ch> wrote:


We noticed the issue when one of our users reported a 
similar issue following a minor version ESR update:

Using FF 45.9.0.6310 & Windows 7.
(1) Start FF
(2) goto this URL www.lematin.ch (newspaper in Geneva, 
Switzerland)
Results: Browser waits for the page to load for 
two-three minutes to load (but would actually load);
Results: Other browsers, No issue;
(4) Close browser
Browser hangs and requires a kill process.
(5) Restart Browser and Try different web sites, even 
ones that were ok before;
Results: Browser waits for web site for over two / 
three minutes;
(5) Kill Process, Restart browser and repeat step 2 and 
5:
Same Result;
(6) Kill Process, Replace FF user profile and repeat 
step 2 and 5:
Same Result;
(7) Uninstall FF for users who were affected; Install 
FF 52.1.0.6316
Issue no longer reproducible

We hope this helps.

Best,
Samuel



>>> Jim Weill <moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu> 19/05/2017 00:17 
>>>

I notice the issue when I first open FF in the morning 
on Windows 7 Pro
x64 machines.  After that I cannot come up with a 
reliable way to
reproduce this issue

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-07-01 Thread stein.wm
Perhaps it's the Virus Protection. 
E. g. on my PC a new version of Avira (after last product update from 
2017-June-02) now tries to sent requests home with every suspection or internet 
request. If the firewall blocks this, the virus protection delays the start of 
the intercepted module for a trial period of about half a minute. 

But this effect should also occur with other software, it is not limited to the 
new Firefox version. 

stein.wm
 

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Molenaar
Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Juli 2017 08:50
An: Jim Weill
Cc: enterprise@mozilla.org
Betreff: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

I have that problem also with the official version. I'm still not sure what the 
problem is. I've noticed that it occurs only with internet pages, none 
internal. First I thought it was my ad blocker. But I did a clean install (with 
clean profile) and having the issue back again. 


I'm on Windows 7 Pro btw.


Remy 

Op 30 jun. 2017 om 19:23 heeft Jim Weill <moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu> het 
volgende geschreven:



I don't know about anyone else, but I am still having the slowness 
issue with Firefox, even after upgrading to the (unannounced) 52.2.1 release.  
For this reason I am pushing Chrome to our users because we cannot keep having 
random page timeouts slowing us down like this.

I cannot find a way to recreate the issue, other than at least once per 
hour the whole browser stops loading pages and it takes anywhere from 30-60 
seconds before I can use firefox again.  I can open new tabs and start trying 
to load pages, but none of them load until whatever is bottle-necking the 
browser finally releases.

jim



On 6/6/2017 11:50 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:


Thanks Samuel. As a follow up, I have filed 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629


Lawrence


On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Samuel Ambaye 
<samuel.amb...@oakfnd.ch> wrote:


We noticed the issue when one of our users reported a 
similar issue following a minor version ESR update:

Using FF 45.9.0.6310 & Windows 7.
(1) Start FF
(2) goto this URL www.lematin.ch (newspaper in Geneva, 
Switzerland)
Results: Browser waits for the page to load for 
two-three minutes to load (but would actually load);
Results: Other browsers, No issue;
(4) Close browser
Browser hangs and requires a kill process.
(5) Restart Browser and Try different web sites, even 
ones that were ok before;
Results: Browser waits for web site for over two / 
three minutes;
(5) Kill Process, Restart browser and repeat step 2 and 
5:
Same Result;
(6) Kill Process, Replace FF user profile and repeat 
step 2 and 5:
Same Result;
(7) Uninstall FF for users who were affected; Install 
FF 52.1.0.6316
Issue no longer reproducible

We hope this helps.

Best,
Samuel



>>> Jim Weill <moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu> 19/05/2017 
00:17 >>>

I notice the issue when I first open FF in the morning 
on Windows 7 Pro
x64 machines.  After that I cannot come up with a 
reliable way to
reproduce this issue, other than it happens at random 
times throughout
the day.

I do not notice this on Mac OSX 10.12 at all (we have a 
few of these).
And I have not polled our Linux users on this issue, so 
I do not know
where that stands.

Is there something in the dev tools that I can leave 
open when this
happens again to try to narrow this down?  I've had 
this happen several
times today already.

jim


On 5/11/2017 11:51 AM, Phil Pishioneri wrote:
> On 5/11/17 2:06 PM, Julien Cristau wrote:
>> we've filed a bug at
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-07-01 Thread Remy Molenaar
I have that problem also with the official version. I'm still not sure what
the problem is. I've noticed that it occurs only with internet pages, none
internal. First I thought it was my ad blocker. But I did a clean install
(with clean profile) and having the issue back again.

I'm on Windows 7 Pro btw.

Remy

Op 30 jun. 2017 om 19:23 heeft Jim Weill  het
volgende geschreven:

I don't know about anyone else, but I am still having the slowness issue
with Firefox, even after upgrading to the (unannounced) 52.2.1 release.
For this reason I am pushing Chrome to our users because we cannot keep
having random page timeouts slowing us down like this.

I cannot find a way to recreate the issue, other than at least once per
hour the whole browser stops loading pages and it takes anywhere from 30-60
seconds before I can use firefox again.  I can open new tabs and start
trying to load pages, but none of them load until whatever is
bottle-necking the browser finally releases.

jim

On 6/6/2017 11:50 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:

Thanks Samuel. As a follow up, I have filed
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629

Lawrence

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Samuel Ambaye 
wrote:

> We noticed the issue when one of our users reported a similar issue
> following a minor version ESR update:
>
> Using FF 45.9.0.6310 & Windows 7.
> (1) Start FF
> (2) goto this URL www.lematin.ch (newspaper in Geneva, Switzerland)
> Results: Browser waits for the page to load for two-three minutes to load
> (but would actually load);
> Results: Other browsers, No issue;
> (4) Close browser
> Browser hangs and requires a kill process.
> (5) Restart Browser and Try different web sites, even ones that were ok
> before;
> Results: Browser waits for web site for over two / three minutes;
> (5) Kill Process, Restart browser and repeat step 2 and 5:
> Same Result;
> (6) Kill Process, Replace FF user profile and repeat step 2 and 5:
> Same Result;
> (7) Uninstall FF for users who were affected; Install FF 52.1.0.6316
> Issue no longer reproducible
>
> We hope this helps.
>
> Best,
> Samuel
>
>
>
> >>> Jim Weill  19/05/2017 00:17 >>>
> I notice the issue when I first open FF in the morning on Windows 7 Pro
> x64 machines.  After that I cannot come up with a reliable way to
> reproduce this issue, other than it happens at random times throughout
> the day.
>
> I do not notice this on Mac OSX 10.12 at all (we have a few of these).
> And I have not polled our Linux users on this issue, so I do not know
> where that stands.
>
> Is there something in the dev tools that I can leave open when this
> happens again to try to narrow this down?  I've had this happen several
> times today already.
>
> jim
>
>
> On 5/11/2017 11:51 AM, Phil Pishioneri wrote:
> > On 5/11/17 2:06 PM, Julien Cristau wrote:
> >> we've filed a bug at
> >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1361865 to investigate
> >> the issue reported in this thread. Unfortunately so far we haven't
> >> been able to reproduce this internally.  Does anyone on this thread
> >> have a reliable way to reproduce the problem you've seen?  If this is
> >> also reproducible with the non-ESR Firefox releases, knowing which
> >> version introduced it would also help narrow down the search.
> >
> > I've had very reproducible delays since (non-ESR) release 48. I found
> > it related to syncing of my (large) bookmarks. Whenever the sync
> > process starts (this can be "random", especially if a Firefox is
> > active on another host syncing to the same account), Firefox's UI
> > locks up for a few seconds. On a Mac, I get the spinning beach ball;
> > on Windows, I'll get the window title bar message about the process
> > not responding; I don't recall the behavior on Linux, other than
> > Firefox becomes unresponsive. Creating a new bookmark also starts a
> > sync (and, it'll start while the "Bookmark This Page" window is open).
> >
> > My circumvention was to find the host name being used for my sync, and
> > put in an override in my client's hosts file that maps the name to
> > loopback 127.0.0.1, then commenting that out and manually starting a
> > sync when I need it (then uncomment it again afterward).
> >
> > My multiprocess status is off on all of these platforms due to
> > incompatible extensions.
> >
> > -Phil
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-06-30 Thread Jim Weill
I don't know about anyone else, but I am still having the slowness issue 
with Firefox, even after upgrading to the (unannounced) 52.2.1 release.  
For this reason I am pushing Chrome to our users because we cannot keep 
having random page timeouts slowing us down like this.


I cannot find a way to recreate the issue, other than at least once per 
hour the whole browser stops loading pages and it takes anywhere from 
30-60 seconds before I can use firefox again.  I can open new tabs and 
start trying to load pages, but none of them load until whatever is 
bottle-necking the browser finally releases.


jim


On 6/6/2017 11:50 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
Thanks Samuel. As a follow up, I have filed 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629


Lawrence

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Samuel Ambaye 
> wrote:


We noticed the issue when one of our users reported a similar
issue following a minor version ESR update:

Using FF 45.9.0.6310 & Windows 7.
(1) Start FF
(2) goto this URL www.lematin.ch 
(newspaper in Geneva, Switzerland)
Results: Browser waits for the page to load for two-three minutes
to load (but would actually load);
Results: Other browsers, No issue;
(4) Close browser
Browser hangs and requires a kill process.
(5) Restart Browser and Try different web sites, even ones that
were ok before;
Results: Browser waits for web site for over two / three minutes;
(5) Kill Process, Restart browser and repeat step 2 and 5:
Same Result;
(6) Kill Process, Replace FF user profile and repeat step 2 and 5:
Same Result;
(7) Uninstall FF for users who were affected; Install FF 52.1.0.6316
Issue no longer reproducible

We hope this helps.

Best,
Samuel



>>> Jim Weill > 19/05/2017 00:17 >>>
I notice the issue when I first open FF in the morning on Windows
7 Pro
x64 machines.  After that I cannot come up with a reliable way to
reproduce this issue, other than it happens at random times throughout
the day.

I do not notice this on Mac OSX 10.12 at all (we have a few of these).
And I have not polled our Linux users on this issue, so I do not know
where that stands.

Is there something in the dev tools that I can leave open when this
happens again to try to narrow this down?  I've had this happen
several
times today already.

jim


On 5/11/2017 11:51 AM, Phil Pishioneri wrote:
> On 5/11/17 2:06 PM, Julien Cristau wrote:
>> we've filed a bug at
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1361865
 to investigate
>> the issue reported in this thread. Unfortunately so far we haven't
>> been able to reproduce this internally.  Does anyone on this thread
>> have a reliable way to reproduce the problem you've seen?  If
this is
>> also reproducible with the non-ESR Firefox releases, knowing which
>> version introduced it would also help narrow down the search.
>
> I've had very reproducible delays since (non-ESR) release 48. I
found
> it related to syncing of my (large) bookmarks. Whenever the sync
> process starts (this can be "random", especially if a Firefox is
> active on another host syncing to the same account), Firefox's UI
> locks up for a few seconds. On a Mac, I get the spinning beach ball;
> on Windows, I'll get the window title bar message about the process
> not responding; I don't recall the behavior on Linux, other than
> Firefox becomes unresponsive. Creating a new bookmark also starts a
> sync (and, it'll start while the "Bookmark This Page" window is
open).
>
> My circumvention was to find the host name being used for my
sync, and
> put in an override in my client's hosts file that maps the name to
> loopback 127.0.0.1, then commenting that out and manually starting a
> sync when I need it (then uncomment it again afterward).
>
> My multiprocess status is off on all of these platforms due to
> incompatible extensions.
>
> -Phil
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-06-06 Thread Lawrence Mandel
Thanks Samuel. As a follow up, I have filed
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629

Lawrence

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Samuel Ambaye 
wrote:

> We noticed the issue when one of our users reported a similar issue
> following a minor version ESR update:
>
> Using FF 45.9.0.6310 & Windows 7.
> (1) Start FF
> (2) goto this URL www.lematin.ch (newspaper in Geneva, Switzerland)
> Results: Browser waits for the page to load for two-three minutes to load
> (but would actually load);
> Results: Other browsers, No issue;
> (4) Close browser
> Browser hangs and requires a kill process.
> (5) Restart Browser and Try different web sites, even ones that were ok
> before;
> Results: Browser waits for web site for over two / three minutes;
> (5) Kill Process, Restart browser and repeat step 2 and 5:
> Same Result;
> (6) Kill Process, Replace FF user profile and repeat step 2 and 5:
> Same Result;
> (7) Uninstall FF for users who were affected; Install FF 52.1.0.6316
> Issue no longer reproducible
>
> We hope this helps.
>
> Best,
> Samuel
>
>
>
> >>> Jim Weill  19/05/2017 00:17 >>>
> I notice the issue when I first open FF in the morning on Windows 7 Pro
> x64 machines.  After that I cannot come up with a reliable way to
> reproduce this issue, other than it happens at random times throughout
> the day.
>
> I do not notice this on Mac OSX 10.12 at all (we have a few of these).
> And I have not polled our Linux users on this issue, so I do not know
> where that stands.
>
> Is there something in the dev tools that I can leave open when this
> happens again to try to narrow this down?  I've had this happen several
> times today already.
>
> jim
>
>
> On 5/11/2017 11:51 AM, Phil Pishioneri wrote:
> > On 5/11/17 2:06 PM, Julien Cristau wrote:
> >> we've filed a bug at
> >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1361865 to investigate
> >> the issue reported in this thread. Unfortunately so far we haven't
> >> been able to reproduce this internally.  Does anyone on this thread
> >> have a reliable way to reproduce the problem you've seen?  If this is
> >> also reproducible with the non-ESR Firefox releases, knowing which
> >> version introduced it would also help narrow down the search.
> >
> > I've had very reproducible delays since (non-ESR) release 48. I found
> > it related to syncing of my (large) bookmarks. Whenever the sync
> > process starts (this can be "random", especially if a Firefox is
> > active on another host syncing to the same account), Firefox's UI
> > locks up for a few seconds. On a Mac, I get the spinning beach ball;
> > on Windows, I'll get the window title bar message about the process
> > not responding; I don't recall the behavior on Linux, other than
> > Firefox becomes unresponsive. Creating a new bookmark also starts a
> > sync (and, it'll start while the "Bookmark This Page" window is open).
> >
> > My circumvention was to find the host name being used for my sync, and
> > put in an override in my client's hosts file that maps the name to
> > loopback 127.0.0.1, then commenting that out and manually starting a
> > sync when I need it (then uncomment it again afterward).
> >
> > My multiprocess status is off on all of these platforms due to
> > incompatible extensions.
> >
> > -Phil
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-05-19 Thread Samuel Ambaye
We noticed the issue when one of our users reported a similar issue following a 
minor version ESR update:

Using FF 45.9.0.6310 & Windows 7.
(1) Start FF
(2) goto this URL www.lematin.ch (newspaper in Geneva, Switzerland)
Results: Browser waits for the page to load for two-three minutes to load (but 
would actually load);
Results: Other browsers, No issue;
(4) Close browser 
Browser hangs and requires a kill process.
(5) Restart Browser and Try different web sites, even ones that were ok before;
Results: Browser waits for web site for over two / three minutes;
(5) Kill Process, Restart browser and repeat step 2 and 5:
Same Result;
(6) Kill Process, Replace FF user profile and repeat step 2 and 5:
Same Result;
(7) Uninstall FF for users who were affected; Install FF 52.1.0.6316
Issue no longer reproducible

We hope this helps.

Best,
Samuel



>>> Jim Weill  19/05/2017 00:17 >>>
I notice the issue when I first open FF in the morning on Windows 7 Pro 
x64 machines.  After that I cannot come up with a reliable way to 
reproduce this issue, other than it happens at random times throughout 
the day.

I do not notice this on Mac OSX 10.12 at all (we have a few of these).  
And I have not polled our Linux users on this issue, so I do not know 
where that stands.

Is there something in the dev tools that I can leave open when this 
happens again to try to narrow this down?  I've had this happen several 
times today already.

jim


On 5/11/2017 11:51 AM, Phil Pishioneri wrote:
> On 5/11/17 2:06 PM, Julien Cristau wrote: 
>> we've filed a bug at  
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1361865 to investigate  
>> the issue reported in this thread. Unfortunately so far we haven't  
>> been able to reproduce this internally.  Does anyone on this thread  
>> have a reliable way to reproduce the problem you've seen?  If this is  
>> also reproducible with the non-ESR Firefox releases, knowing which  
>> version introduced it would also help narrow down the search. 
> 
> I've had very reproducible delays since (non-ESR) release 48. I found  
> it related to syncing of my (large) bookmarks. Whenever the sync  
> process starts (this can be "random", especially if a Firefox is  
> active on another host syncing to the same account), Firefox's UI  
> locks up for a few seconds. On a Mac, I get the spinning beach ball;  
> on Windows, I'll get the window title bar message about the process  
> not responding; I don't recall the behavior on Linux, other than  
> Firefox becomes unresponsive. Creating a new bookmark also starts a  
> sync (and, it'll start while the "Bookmark This Page" window is open). 
> 
> My circumvention was to find the host name being used for my sync, and  
> put in an override in my client's hosts file that maps the name to  
> loopback 127.0.0.1, then commenting that out and manually starting a  
> sync when I need it (then uncomment it again afterward). 
> 
> My multiprocess status is off on all of these platforms due to  
> incompatible extensions. 
> 
> -Phil 
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-05-18 Thread Jim Weill
I notice the issue when I first open FF in the morning on Windows 7 Pro 
x64 machines.  After that I cannot come up with a reliable way to 
reproduce this issue, other than it happens at random times throughout 
the day.


I do not notice this on Mac OSX 10.12 at all (we have a few of these).  
And I have not polled our Linux users on this issue, so I do not know 
where that stands.


Is there something in the dev tools that I can leave open when this 
happens again to try to narrow this down?  I've had this happen several 
times today already.


jim


On 5/11/2017 11:51 AM, Phil Pishioneri wrote:

On 5/11/17 2:06 PM, Julien Cristau wrote:
we've filed a bug at 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1361865 to investigate 
the issue reported in this thread. Unfortunately so far we haven't 
been able to reproduce this internally.  Does anyone on this thread 
have a reliable way to reproduce the problem you've seen?  If this is 
also reproducible with the non-ESR Firefox releases, knowing which 
version introduced it would also help narrow down the search.


I've had very reproducible delays since (non-ESR) release 48. I found 
it related to syncing of my (large) bookmarks. Whenever the sync 
process starts (this can be "random", especially if a Firefox is 
active on another host syncing to the same account), Firefox's UI 
locks up for a few seconds. On a Mac, I get the spinning beach ball; 
on Windows, I'll get the window title bar message about the process 
not responding; I don't recall the behavior on Linux, other than 
Firefox becomes unresponsive. Creating a new bookmark also starts a 
sync (and, it'll start while the "Bookmark This Page" window is open).


My circumvention was to find the host name being used for my sync, and 
put in an override in my client's hosts file that maps the name to 
loopback 127.0.0.1, then commenting that out and manually starting a 
sync when I need it (then uncomment it again afterward).


My multiprocess status is off on all of these platforms due to 
incompatible extensions.


-Phil
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-05-11 Thread Julien Cristau
Hi,

we've filed a bug at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1361865
to investigate the issue reported in this thread.  Unfortunately so far we
haven't been able to reproduce this internally.  Does anyone on this thread
have a reliable way to reproduce the problem you've seen?  If this is also
reproducible with the non-ESR Firefox releases, knowing which version
introduced it would also help narrow down the search.

Thanks,
Julien

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 4:44 PM, James Andrewartha <
jandrewar...@ccgs.wa.edu.au> wrote:

> I haven't been following the thread, but what happens if you turn off
> multiprocess?
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: "Alex, Nicole L" <nicole.l.a...@boeing.com>
> Date: 4/5/17 22:34 (GMT+08:00)
> To: Warren Sanders <wsan...@gmail.com>, enterprise@mozilla.org
> Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from
> 45.9->52.1 ESR
>
> I think there are two separate issues.  One where its slow to connect and
> another where it just never connects (mostly seen in the latest 52.1 ESR).
>
>
>
> Nikki Alex
>
> Web Browser Component Manager
>
> The Boeing Company
>
>
>
> *From:* Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] *On Behalf Of 
> *Warren
> Sanders
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 04, 2017 7:07 AM
> *To:* enterprise@mozilla.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from
> 45.9->52.1 ESR
>
>
>
> I never thought much about it, but, I've noticed a random freeze up a
> couple times a day that lasts about 30 seconds or so.  I'm currently using
> ESR 45.8.0, so I don't think it's anything new that just showed up in 52x.
> On the other had, I haven't tested any of the ESR 52 branch so what I'm
> noticing may be a different issue.
>
>
> Warren
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 8:53 AM, William Spratt <william.spr...@fera.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Turning off the browsing issues (auto-scrolling, smooth-scrolling and
> hardware acceleration) lessens the rate of incidence, but we’re still
> seeing hanging issues.
>
>
>
> The only way to resolve it is to close the window, monitor the Firefox
> processes in taskmanager until they are all stopped (commonly two for one
> window) and then restarting Firefox.  It’s weird.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Will
>
>
>
> *Will Spratt*
>
> *IT Science Support Specialist*
>
> Tel:     01904 46 2631
>
>
>
> *From:* Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] *On Behalf Of 
> *Alex,
> Nicole L
> *Sent:* 03 May 2017 15:37
> *To:* Bob Hartung <bhart...@wiscoind.com>; enterprise@mozilla.org
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from
> 45.9->52.1 ESR
>
>
>
> I’ve been seeing similar issues that Bob reported below as well but have
> been unable to find a reproducible test case that would trigger the
> behavior.
>
>
>
> Nikki Alex
>
> Web Browser Component Manager
>
> The Boeing Company
>
>
>
> *From:* Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org
> <enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org>] *On Behalf Of *Bob Hartung
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 03, 2017 5:35 AM
> *To:* enterprise@mozilla.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from
> 45.9->52.1 ESR
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have had a number of my users report endless whirly progress indicators
> both with ESR and non-ESR installation of Firefox v52+. So far quitting all
> instances of Firefox resolves the issue but only temporarily. The issue was
> not evident in V51-.
>
>
>
> -------
> Bob Hartung, Dir of I.T.
> Wisco Industries, Inc.
> 736 Janesville St.
> Oregon, WI 53575
> Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 <(608)%20835-3106>
> Fax: (608) 835-7399
> e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
> website: www.wiscomade.com
>
> *From: *Jim Weill <moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu>
> *To: *Максим Бритов <ad...@modum.by>, <enterprise@mozilla.org>
> *Sent: *5/2/2017 5:20 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from
> 45.9->52.1 ESR
>
> I downloaded the win32 version from the link below but I do not know how
> to tell if I am using the version it says it is?  Either way I am still
> having issues on my own machine with this build, I have not pushed it
> out to everyone else.
>
> jim
>
>
> On 4/27/2017 6:37 AM, Максим Бритов wrote:
> > 26.04.2017 00:29, Jim Weill пишет:
> >> I have been experiencing a problem with web pages refusing to load for
> more than 60 seconds in some cases since updating

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-05-04 Thread James Andrewartha
I haven't been following the thread, but what happens if you turn off 
multiprocess?

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


 Original message 
From: "Alex, Nicole L" <nicole.l.a...@boeing.com>
Date: 4/5/17 22:34 (GMT+08:00)
To: Warren Sanders <wsan...@gmail.com>, enterprise@mozilla.org
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

I think there are two separate issues.  One where its slow to connect and 
another where it just never connects (mostly seen in the latest 52.1 ESR).

Nikki Alex
Web Browser Component Manager
The Boeing Company

From: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] On Behalf Of Warren 
Sanders
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 7:07 AM
To: enterprise@mozilla.org
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

I never thought much about it, but, I've noticed a random freeze up a couple 
times a day that lasts about 30 seconds or so.  I'm currently using ESR 45.8.0, 
so I don't think it's anything new that just showed up in 52x.  On the other 
had, I haven't tested any of the ESR 52 branch so what I'm noticing may be a 
different issue.

Warren

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 8:53 AM, William Spratt 
<william.spr...@fera.co.uk<mailto:william.spr...@fera.co.uk>> wrote:
Turning off the browsing issues (auto-scrolling, smooth-scrolling and hardware 
acceleration) lessens the rate of incidence, but we’re still seeing hanging 
issues.

The only way to resolve it is to close the window, monitor the Firefox 
processes in taskmanager until they are all stopped (commonly two for one 
window) and then restarting Firefox.  It’s weird.

Regards

Will

Will Spratt
IT Science Support Specialist
Tel: 01904 46 2631

From: Enterprise 
[mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org<mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org>] 
On Behalf Of Alex, Nicole L
Sent: 03 May 2017 15:37
To: Bob Hartung <bhart...@wiscoind.com<mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com>>; 
enterprise@mozilla.org<mailto:enterprise@mozilla.org>

Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

I’ve been seeing similar issues that Bob reported below as well but have been 
unable to find a reproducible test case that would trigger the behavior.

Nikki Alex
Web Browser Component Manager
The Boeing Company

From: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] On Behalf Of Bob 
Hartung
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 5:35 AM
To: enterprise@mozilla.org<mailto:enterprise@mozilla.org>
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

Hi,

I have had a number of my users report endless whirly progress indicators both 
with ESR and non-ESR installation of Firefox v52+. So far quitting all 
instances of Firefox resolves the issue but only temporarily. The issue was not 
evident in V51-.

---
Bob Hartung, Dir of I.T.
Wisco Industries, Inc.
736 Janesville St.
Oregon, WI 53575
Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215<tel:(608)%20835-3106>
Fax: (608) 835-7399<tel:(608)%20835-7399>
e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com<http://wiscoind.com>
website: www.wiscomade.com<http://www.wiscomade.com>
From: Jim Weill <moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu<mailto:moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu>>
To: Максим Бритов <ad...@modum.by<mailto:ad...@modum.by>>, 
<enterprise@mozilla.org<mailto:enterprise@mozilla.org>>
Sent: 5/2/2017 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR
I downloaded the win32 version from the link below but I do not know how
to tell if I am using the version it says it is?  Either way I am still
having issues on my own machine with this build, I have not pushed it
out to everyone else.

jim


On 4/27/2017 6:37 AM, Максим Бритов wrote:
> 26.04.2017 00:29, Jim Weill пишет:
>> I have been experiencing a problem with web pages refusing to load for more 
>> than 60 seconds in some cases since updating to the newest version of the 
>> 52.x track.  My office internet is a 1Gbps incoming line, of which I usually 
>> get no less than 10Mbps when there is high traffic on the line.
> Could you check 52.1.0rc-build1? 
> http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/candidates/52.1.0esr-candidates/build1/
> For my test user (G4400/win10-annw-x64) build1 works fine. Build2 and later 
> not.
>
>
>> I am finding that such disparate sites as google, facebook, and other 
>> high-reliability sites sit and spin at random times throughout the day.  If 
>> I open a command line and ping that site, I get a ping time of 3-10ms and 
>> very little deviation from the time on a continuous ping (i.e. no single 
>> ping taking more than the time specified, or nslookup errors, etc).  Yet the 
>> site sits and spins for far too long before eventually loading correctly. Is 
>> 

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-05-04 Thread Alex, Nicole L
I think there are two separate issues.  One where its slow to connect and 
another where it just never connects (mostly seen in the latest 52.1 ESR).

Nikki Alex
Web Browser Component Manager
The Boeing Company

From: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] On Behalf Of Warren 
Sanders
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 7:07 AM
To: enterprise@mozilla.org
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

I never thought much about it, but, I've noticed a random freeze up a couple 
times a day that lasts about 30 seconds or so.  I'm currently using ESR 45.8.0, 
so I don't think it's anything new that just showed up in 52x.  On the other 
had, I haven't tested any of the ESR 52 branch so what I'm noticing may be a 
different issue.

Warren

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 8:53 AM, William Spratt 
<william.spr...@fera.co.uk<mailto:william.spr...@fera.co.uk>> wrote:
Turning off the browsing issues (auto-scrolling, smooth-scrolling and hardware 
acceleration) lessens the rate of incidence, but we’re still seeing hanging 
issues.

The only way to resolve it is to close the window, monitor the Firefox 
processes in taskmanager until they are all stopped (commonly two for one 
window) and then restarting Firefox.  It’s weird.

Regards

Will

Will Spratt
IT Science Support Specialist
Tel: 01904 46 2631

From: Enterprise 
[mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org<mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org>] 
On Behalf Of Alex, Nicole L
Sent: 03 May 2017 15:37
To: Bob Hartung <bhart...@wiscoind.com<mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com>>; 
enterprise@mozilla.org<mailto:enterprise@mozilla.org>

Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

I’ve been seeing similar issues that Bob reported below as well but have been 
unable to find a reproducible test case that would trigger the behavior.

Nikki Alex
Web Browser Component Manager
The Boeing Company

From: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] On Behalf Of Bob 
Hartung
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 5:35 AM
To: enterprise@mozilla.org<mailto:enterprise@mozilla.org>
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

Hi,

I have had a number of my users report endless whirly progress indicators both 
with ESR and non-ESR installation of Firefox v52+. So far quitting all 
instances of Firefox resolves the issue but only temporarily. The issue was not 
evident in V51-.

---
Bob Hartung, Dir of I.T.
Wisco Industries, Inc.
736 Janesville St.
Oregon, WI 53575
Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215<tel:(608)%20835-3106>
Fax: (608) 835-7399<tel:(608)%20835-7399>
e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com<http://wiscoind.com>
website: www.wiscomade.com<http://www.wiscomade.com>
From: Jim Weill <moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu<mailto:moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu>>
To: Максим Бритов <ad...@modum.by<mailto:ad...@modum.by>>, 
<enterprise@mozilla.org<mailto:enterprise@mozilla.org>>
Sent: 5/2/2017 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR
I downloaded the win32 version from the link below but I do not know how
to tell if I am using the version it says it is?  Either way I am still
having issues on my own machine with this build, I have not pushed it
out to everyone else.

jim


On 4/27/2017 6:37 AM, Максим Бритов wrote:
> 26.04.2017 00:29, Jim Weill пишет:
>> I have been experiencing a problem with web pages refusing to load for more 
>> than 60 seconds in some cases since updating to the newest version of the 
>> 52.x track.  My office internet is a 1Gbps incoming line, of which I usually 
>> get no less than 10Mbps when there is high traffic on the line.
> Could you check 52.1.0rc-build1? 
> http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/candidates/52.1.0esr-candidates/build1/
> For my test user (G4400/win10-annw-x64) build1 works fine. Build2 and later 
> not.
>
>
>> I am finding that such disparate sites as google, facebook, and other 
>> high-reliability sites sit and spin at random times throughout the day.  If 
>> I open a command line and ping that site, I get a ping time of 3-10ms and 
>> very little deviation from the time on a continuous ping (i.e. no single 
>> ping taking more than the time specified, or nslookup errors, etc).  Yet the 
>> site sits and spins for far too long before eventually loading correctly. Is 
>> there a preference I have set wrong that's causing this, or is this behavior 
>> also being noticed by anyone else on this release track?
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-05-04 Thread Warren Sanders
I never thought much about it, but, I've noticed a random freeze up a
couple times a day that lasts about 30 seconds or so.  I'm currently using
ESR 45.8.0, so I don't think it's anything new that just showed up in 52x.
On the other had, I haven't tested any of the ESR 52 branch so what I'm
noticing may be a different issue.

Warren

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 8:53 AM, William Spratt <william.spr...@fera.co.uk>
wrote:

> Turning off the browsing issues (auto-scrolling, smooth-scrolling and
> hardware acceleration) lessens the rate of incidence, but we’re still
> seeing hanging issues.
>
>
>
> The only way to resolve it is to close the window, monitor the Firefox
> processes in taskmanager until they are all stopped (commonly two for one
> window) and then restarting Firefox.  It’s weird.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Will
>
>
>
> *Will Spratt*
>
> *IT Science Support Specialist*
>
> Tel: 01904 46 2631
>
>
>
> *From:* Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] *On Behalf Of 
> *Alex,
> Nicole L
> *Sent:* 03 May 2017 15:37
> *To:* Bob Hartung <bhart...@wiscoind.com>; enterprise@mozilla.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from
> 45.9->52.1 ESR
>
>
>
> I’ve been seeing similar issues that Bob reported below as well but have
> been unable to find a reproducible test case that would trigger the
> behavior.
>
>
>
> Nikki Alex
>
> Web Browser Component Manager
>
> The Boeing Company
>
>
>
> *From:* Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org
> <enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org>] *On Behalf Of *Bob Hartung
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 03, 2017 5:35 AM
> *To:* enterprise@mozilla.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from
> 45.9->52.1 ESR
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have had a number of my users report endless whirly progress indicators
> both with ESR and non-ESR installation of Firefox v52+. So far quitting all
> instances of Firefox resolves the issue but only temporarily. The issue was
> not evident in V51-.
>
>
>
> ---
> Bob Hartung, Dir of I.T.
> Wisco Industries, Inc.
> 736 Janesville St.
> Oregon, WI 53575
> Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 <(608)%20835-3106>
> Fax: (608) 835-7399
> e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
> website: www.wiscomade.com
>
> *From: *Jim Weill <moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu>
> *To: *Максим Бритов <ad...@modum.by>, <enterprise@mozilla.org>
> *Sent: *5/2/2017 5:20 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from
> 45.9->52.1 ESR
>
> I downloaded the win32 version from the link below but I do not know how
> to tell if I am using the version it says it is?  Either way I am still
> having issues on my own machine with this build, I have not pushed it
> out to everyone else.
>
> jim
>
>
> On 4/27/2017 6:37 AM, Максим Бритов wrote:
> > 26.04.2017 00:29, Jim Weill пишет:
> >> I have been experiencing a problem with web pages refusing to load for
> more than 60 seconds in some cases since updating to the newest version of
> the 52.x track.  My office internet is a 1Gbps incoming line, of which I
> usually get no less than 10Mbps when there is high traffic on the line.
> > Could you check 52.1.0rc-build1? http://archive.mozilla.org/
> pub/firefox/candidates/52.1.0esr-candidates/build1/
> > For my test user (G4400/win10-annw-x64) build1 works fine. Build2 and
> later not.
> >
> >
> >> I am finding that such disparate sites as google, facebook, and other
> high-reliability sites sit and spin at random times throughout the day.  If
> I open a command line and ping that site, I get a ping time of 3-10ms and
> very little deviation from the time on a continuous ping (i.e. no single
> ping taking more than the time specified, or nslookup errors, etc).  Yet
> the site sits and spins for far too long before eventually loading
> correctly. Is there a preference I have set wrong that's causing this, or
> is this behavior also being noticed by anyone else on this release track?
> > ___
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> > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/enterprise
> >
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-05-03 Thread Максим Бритов
03.05.2017 17:53, William Spratt пишет:
> Turning off the browsing issues (auto-scrolling, smooth-scrolling and 
> hardware acceleration) lessens the rate of incidence, but we’re still seeing 
> hanging issues.
> The only way to resolve it is to close the window, monitor the Firefox 
> processes in taskmanager until they are all stopped (commonly two for one 
> window) and then restarting Firefox.  It’s weird.

I have only 1 tester for FF 52 now. She have: 1. Crashes FF 2. ~ Every 30min FF 
freeze network connections (UI work, network freeze).
We begin test 52.x here from 52.0.2ers, then 52.1.0-build1-esr, build2, buld3 
(imho build3 renamed into release).
FF-52.1.0-build1 was fine. From build2 my tester reported that issues.
I did diff between build1 and build2. There is only spdy code added in build2.
I disable spdy/http2 in about:config, but my tester on vacations till ~ 15 May 
:(



> *From:*Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] *On Behalf Of 
> *Alex, Nicole L
> *Sent:* 03 May 2017 15:37
> *To:* Bob Hartung <bhart...@wiscoind.com>; enterprise@mozilla.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 
> 45.9->52.1 ESR
> 
>  
> 
> I’ve been seeing similar issues that Bob reported below as well but have been 
> unable to find a reproducible test case that would trigger the behavior. 
> 
>  
> *From:*Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] *On Behalf Of *Bob 
> Hartung
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 03, 2017 5:35 AM
> *To:* enterprise@mozilla.org <mailto:enterprise@mozilla.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 
> 45.9->52.1 ESR
> 
> 
> Hi,
> I have had a number of my users report endless whirly progress indicators 
> both with ESR and non-ESR installation of Firefox v52+. So far quitting all 
> instances of Firefox resolves the issue but only temporarily. The issue was 
> not evident in V51-.
>  
> 
> 
> *From: *Jim Weill <moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu 
> <mailto:moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu>>
> *To: *Максим Бритов <ad...@modum.by <mailto:ad...@modum.by>>, 
> <enterprise@mozilla.org <mailto:enterprise@mozilla.org>>
> *Sent: *5/2/2017 5:20 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 
> 45.9->52.1 ESR
> 
> I downloaded the win32 version from the link below but I do not know how
> to tell if I am using the version it says it is?  Either way I am still
> having issues on my own machine with this build, I have not pushed it
> out to everyone else.
> 
> jim
> 
> 
> On 4/27/2017 6:37 AM, Максим Бритов wrote:
> > 26.04.2017 00:29, Jim Weill пишет:
> >> I have been experiencing a problem with web pages refusing to load for 
> more than 60 seconds in some cases since updating to the newest version of 
> the 52.x track.  My office internet is a 1Gbps incoming line, of which I 
> usually get no less than 10Mbps when there is high traffic on the line.
> > Could you check 52.1.0rc-build1? 
> http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/candidates/52.1.0esr-candidates/build1/
> > For my test user (G4400/win10-annw-x64) build1 works fine. Build2 and 
> later not.
> >
> >
> >> I am finding that such disparate sites as google, facebook, and other 
> high-reliability sites sit and spin at random times throughout the day.  If I 
> open a command line and ping that site, I get a ping time of 3-10ms and very 
> little deviation from the time on a continuous ping (i.e. no single ping 
> taking more than the time specified, or nslookup errors, etc).  Yet the site 
> sits and spins for far too long before eventually loading correctly. Is there 
> a preference I have set wrong that's causing this, or is this behavior also 
> being noticed by anyone else on this release track?
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-05-03 Thread William Spratt
Turning off the browsing issues (auto-scrolling, smooth-scrolling and hardware 
acceleration) lessens the rate of incidence, but we’re still seeing hanging 
issues.

The only way to resolve it is to close the window, monitor the Firefox 
processes in taskmanager until they are all stopped (commonly two for one 
window) and then restarting Firefox.  It’s weird.

Regards

Will

Will Spratt
IT Science Support Specialist
Tel: 01904 46 2631

From: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] On Behalf Of Alex, 
Nicole L
Sent: 03 May 2017 15:37
To: Bob Hartung <bhart...@wiscoind.com>; enterprise@mozilla.org
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

I’ve been seeing similar issues that Bob reported below as well but have been 
unable to find a reproducible test case that would trigger the behavior.

Nikki Alex
Web Browser Component Manager
The Boeing Company

From: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] On Behalf Of Bob 
Hartung
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 5:35 AM
To: enterprise@mozilla.org<mailto:enterprise@mozilla.org>
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

Hi,

I have had a number of my users report endless whirly progress indicators both 
with ESR and non-ESR installation of Firefox v52+. So far quitting all 
instances of Firefox resolves the issue but only temporarily. The issue was not 
evident in V51-.

---
Bob Hartung, Dir of I.T.
Wisco Industries, Inc.
736 Janesville St.
Oregon, WI 53575
Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
Fax: (608) 835-7399
e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
website: www.wiscomade.com<http://www.wiscomade.com>
From: Jim Weill <moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu<mailto:moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu>>
To: Максим Бритов <ad...@modum.by<mailto:ad...@modum.by>>, 
<enterprise@mozilla.org<mailto:enterprise@mozilla.org>>
Sent: 5/2/2017 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR
I downloaded the win32 version from the link below but I do not know how
to tell if I am using the version it says it is?  Either way I am still
having issues on my own machine with this build, I have not pushed it
out to everyone else.

jim


On 4/27/2017 6:37 AM, Максим Бритов wrote:
> 26.04.2017 00:29, Jim Weill пишет:
>> I have been experiencing a problem with web pages refusing to load for more 
>> than 60 seconds in some cases since updating to the newest version of the 
>> 52.x track.  My office internet is a 1Gbps incoming line, of which I usually 
>> get no less than 10Mbps when there is high traffic on the line.
> Could you check 52.1.0rc-build1? 
> http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/candidates/52.1.0esr-candidates/build1/
> For my test user (G4400/win10-annw-x64) build1 works fine. Build2 and later 
> not.
>
>
>> I am finding that such disparate sites as google, facebook, and other 
>> high-reliability sites sit and spin at random times throughout the day.  If 
>> I open a command line and ping that site, I get a ping time of 3-10ms and 
>> very little deviation from the time on a continuous ping (i.e. no single 
>> ping taking more than the time specified, or nslookup errors, etc).  Yet the 
>> site sits and spins for far too long before eventually loading correctly. Is 
>> there a preference I have set wrong that's causing this, or is this behavior 
>> also being noticed by anyone else on this release track?
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-05-03 Thread Alex, Nicole L
I’ve been seeing similar issues that Bob reported below as well but have been 
unable to find a reproducible test case that would trigger the behavior.

Nikki Alex
Web Browser Component Manager
The Boeing Company

From: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] On Behalf Of Bob 
Hartung
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 5:35 AM
To: enterprise@mozilla.org
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

Hi,

I have had a number of my users report endless whirly progress indicators both 
with ESR and non-ESR installation of Firefox v52+. So far quitting all 
instances of Firefox resolves the issue but only temporarily. The issue was not 
evident in V51-.

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From: Jim Weill <moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu<mailto:moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu>>
To: Максим Бритов <ad...@modum.by<mailto:ad...@modum.by>>, 
<enterprise@mozilla.org<mailto:enterprise@mozilla.org>>
Sent: 5/2/2017 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR
I downloaded the win32 version from the link below but I do not know how
to tell if I am using the version it says it is?  Either way I am still
having issues on my own machine with this build, I have not pushed it
out to everyone else.

jim


On 4/27/2017 6:37 AM, Максим Бритов wrote:
> 26.04.2017 00:29, Jim Weill пишет:
>> I have been experiencing a problem with web pages refusing to load for more 
>> than 60 seconds in some cases since updating to the newest version of the 
>> 52.x track.  My office internet is a 1Gbps incoming line, of which I usually 
>> get no less than 10Mbps when there is high traffic on the line.
> Could you check 52.1.0rc-build1? 
> http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/candidates/52.1.0esr-candidates/build1/
> For my test user (G4400/win10-annw-x64) build1 works fine. Build2 and later 
> not.
>
>
>> I am finding that such disparate sites as google, facebook, and other 
>> high-reliability sites sit and spin at random times throughout the day.  If 
>> I open a command line and ping that site, I get a ping time of 3-10ms and 
>> very little deviation from the time on a continuous ping (i.e. no single 
>> ping taking more than the time specified, or nslookup errors, etc).  Yet the 
>> site sits and spins for far too long before eventually loading correctly. Is 
>> there a preference I have set wrong that's causing this, or is this behavior 
>> also being noticed by anyone else on this release track?
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-05-03 Thread James Pearson
If you go to about:buildconfig, the 'Built from' URL for 52.1.0esr-candidates 
build1 should be (I believe):

 
https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-esr52/rev/7beb59bc3482523ad6811fd3984949204d763810

James Pearson

From: Jim Weill [moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu]
Sent: 02 May 2017 23:20
To: Максим Бритов; enterprise@mozilla.org
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

I downloaded the win32 version from the link below but I do not know how
to tell if I am using the version it says it is?  Either way I am still
having issues on my own machine with this build, I have not pushed it
out to everyone else.

jim


On 4/27/2017 6:37 AM, Максим Бритов wrote:
> 26.04.2017 00:29, Jim Weill пишет:
>> I have been experiencing a problem with web pages refusing to load for more 
>> than 60 seconds in some cases since updating to the newest version of the 
>> 52.x track.  My office internet is a 1Gbps incoming line, of which I usually 
>> get no less than 10Mbps when there is high traffic on the line.
> Could you check 52.1.0rc-build1? 
> http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/candidates/52.1.0esr-candidates/build1/
> For my test user (G4400/win10-annw-x64) build1 works fine. Build2 and later 
> not.
>
>
>> I am finding that such disparate sites as google, facebook, and other 
>> high-reliability sites sit and spin at random times throughout the day.  If 
>> I open a command line and ping that site, I get a ping time of 3-10ms and 
>> very little deviation from the time on a continuous ping (i.e. no single 
>> ping taking more than the time specified, or nslookup errors, etc).  Yet the 
>> site sits and spins for far too long before eventually loading correctly. Is 
>> there a preference I have set wrong that's causing this, or is this behavior 
>> also being noticed by anyone else on this release track?
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-05-03 Thread Bob Hartung
Hi,


I have had a number of my users report endless whirly progress indicators both 
with ESR and non-ESR installation of Firefox v52+. So far quitting all 
instances of Firefox resolves the issue but only temporarily. The issue was not 
evident in V51-.



---
Bob Hartung, Dir of I.T.
Wisco Industries, Inc.
736 Janesville St.
Oregon, WI 53575
Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
Fax: (608) 835-7399
e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
website: www.wiscomade.com



 From:   Jim Weill <moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu> 
 To:   Максим Бритов <ad...@modum.by>, <enterprise@mozilla.org> 
 Sent:   5/2/2017 5:20 PM 
 Subject:   Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 
45.9->52.1 ESR 

I downloaded the win32 version from the link below but I do not know how 
to tell if I am using the version it says it is?  Either way I am still 
having issues on my own machine with this build, I have not pushed it 
out to everyone else.

jim


On 4/27/2017 6:37 AM, Максим Бритов wrote:
> 26.04.2017 00:29, Jim Weill пишет:
>> I have been experiencing a problem with web pages refusing to load for more 
>> than 60 seconds in some cases since updating to the newest version of the 
>> 52.x track.  My office internet is a 1Gbps incoming line, of which I usually 
>> get no less than 10Mbps when there is high traffic on the line.
> Could you check 52.1.0rc-build1? 
> http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/candidates/52.1.0esr-candidates/build1/
> For my test user (G4400/win10-annw-x64) build1 works fine. Build2 and later 
> not.
>
>
>> I am finding that such disparate sites as google, facebook, and other 
>> high-reliability sites sit and spin at random times throughout the day.  If 
>> I open a command line and ping that site, I get a ping time of 3-10ms and 
>> very little deviation from the time on a continuous ping (i.e. no single 
>> ping taking more than the time specified, or nslookup errors, etc).  Yet the 
>> site sits and spins for far too long before eventually loading correctly. Is 
>> there a preference I have set wrong that's causing this, or is this behavior 
>> also being noticed by anyone else on this release track?
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-05-02 Thread Jim Weill
I downloaded the win32 version from the link below but I do not know how 
to tell if I am using the version it says it is?  Either way I am still 
having issues on my own machine with this build, I have not pushed it 
out to everyone else.


jim


On 4/27/2017 6:37 AM, Максим Бритов wrote:

26.04.2017 00:29, Jim Weill пишет:

I have been experiencing a problem with web pages refusing to load for more 
than 60 seconds in some cases since updating to the newest version of the 52.x 
track.  My office internet is a 1Gbps incoming line, of which I usually get no 
less than 10Mbps when there is high traffic on the line.

Could you check 52.1.0rc-build1? 
http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/candidates/52.1.0esr-candidates/build1/
For my test user (G4400/win10-annw-x64) build1 works fine. Build2 and later not.



I am finding that such disparate sites as google, facebook, and other 
high-reliability sites sit and spin at random times throughout the day.  If I 
open a command line and ping that site, I get a ping time of 3-10ms and very 
little deviation from the time on a continuous ping (i.e. no single ping taking 
more than the time specified, or nslookup errors, etc).  Yet the site sits and 
spins for far too long before eventually loading correctly. Is there a 
preference I have set wrong that's causing this, or is this behavior also being 
noticed by anyone else on this release track?

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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-04-28 Thread Amon Ott
Am 25.04.2017 um 23:29 schrieb Jim Weill:
> I have been experiencing a problem with web pages refusing to load for
> more than 60 seconds in some cases since updating to the newest version
> of the 52.x track.  My office internet is a 1Gbps incoming line, of
> which I usually get no less than 10Mbps when there is high traffic on
> the line.
> 
> I am finding that such disparate sites as google, facebook, and other
> high-reliability sites sit and spin at random times throughout the day. 
> If I open a command line and ping that site, I get a ping time of 3-10ms
> and very little deviation from the time on a continuous ping (i.e. no
> single ping taking more than the time specified, or nslookup errors,
> etc).  Yet the site sits and spins for far too long before eventually
> loading correctly. Is there a preference I have set wrong that's causing
> this, or is this behavior also being noticed by anyone else on this
> release track?

We had very slow page loads over https with some uplink proxies behind
our Squid proxy, specially when those uplink proxies broke up https.
This happened with both FF ESR versions, 45 and 52.

Speed improved significantly after we disabled pipelining for these
cases, setting network.http.pipelining to false. Seems that some
commercial firewalls use proxy software that has issues with pipelining.
Maybe FF or Squid do something unusual in these cases, although our
Squid only forwards the https connection with CONNECT to the uplink proxy.

As our clusters store home dirs on CephFS, we also had problems with the
excessive use of fsync() calls in the Firefox configuration interface.
fsync() is slow on network mounts. With a simple preloaded wrapper lib
we enforced the use of fdatasync() instead of fsync(), this improved
reaction time from several seconds (!) per key pressed to a fraction of
a second. Interestingly, this also seems to improve page loading time,
probably related to history storage in sqlite databases, which also use
fsync().

Finally, some customer DNS forwarders do not support EDNS, switching
EDNS off in our internal DNS forwarder also improved loading complex
pages with their many DNS lookups.

Hope this helps...


Amon Ott
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-04-27 Thread Nicolas Gardi
Hi There,

We experience the same issue with the 45.9.0.6310 version. It seems that 
something triggered it because I did not have any issue until I accessed 
lematin.ch (Swiss news paper site). It takes like 3 minutes to load with high 
CPU (25%) we it hangs if we want to close Firefox (it closes but the process is 
still running without stopping). After many test, I notice that if I get rename 
my profile in %appdata% it then works for some time until it start again. Same 
thing if I create a brand new profile with not customisations or if I disable 
all the extensions/addons (Flash included). But, if I start FF in Safe mode it 
works. I also had some problem accessing the main FF website saying there is a 
certificate issue but now it works from both version.

Then, I installed the latest version 52.1.0.6316 and everything seems to be 
fine so far...

Best,
Nicolas

From: Jim Weill <moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu>
To:"enterprise@mozilla.org" <enterprise@mozilla.org>
Date: 25 Avril 2017 23:31
Subject: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR
I have been experiencing a problem with web pages refusing to load for 
more than 60 seconds in some cases since updating to the newest version 
of the 52.x track.  My office internet is a 1Gbps incoming line, of 
which I usually get no less than 10Mbps when there is high traffic on 
the line.

I am finding that such disparate sites as google, facebook, and other 
high-reliability sites sit and spin at random times throughout the day.  
If I open a command line and ping that site, I get a ping time of 3-10ms 
and very little deviation from the time on a continuous ping (i.e. no 
single ping taking more than the time specified, or nslookup errors, 
etc).  Yet the site sits and spins for far too long before eventually 
loading correctly. Is there a preference I have set wrong that's causing 
this, or is this behavior also being noticed by anyone else on this 
release track?

jim


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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-04-27 Thread Максим Бритов
26.04.2017 00:29, Jim Weill пишет:
> I have been experiencing a problem with web pages refusing to load for more 
> than 60 seconds in some cases since updating to the newest version of the 
> 52.x track.  My office internet is a 1Gbps incoming line, of which I usually 
> get no less than 10Mbps when there is high traffic on the line.

Could you check 52.1.0rc-build1? 
http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/candidates/52.1.0esr-candidates/build1/
For my test user (G4400/win10-annw-x64) build1 works fine. Build2 and later not.


> I am finding that such disparate sites as google, facebook, and other 
> high-reliability sites sit and spin at random times throughout the day.  If I 
> open a command line and ping that site, I get a ping time of 3-10ms and very 
> little deviation from the time on a continuous ping (i.e. no single ping 
> taking more than the time specified, or nslookup errors, etc).  Yet the site 
> sits and spins for far too long before eventually loading correctly. Is there 
> a preference I have set wrong that's causing this, or is this behavior also 
> being noticed by anyone else on this release track?
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-04-27 Thread William Spratt
Hi,

I've deactivated the options for " Use autoscrolling", " Use smooth scrolling" 
and " Use hardware acceleration when available". For now this seems to have 
resolved the hanging issues.  Over the next few days I'll reactivate the 
options to see if I can identify the trigger.

Regards

Will

Will Spratt
IT Science Support Specialist
Tel: 01904 46 2631


-Original Message-
From: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] On Behalf Of Herzog, 
Bernd
Sent: 27 April 2017 09:48
To: 'enterprise@mozilla.org'
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

Sorry not the UI - the timing after a user interaction on a page (click action, 
web page loading, popups etc). 

- Original Message -
Von: Herzog, Bernd
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. April 2017 10:23
An: 'enterprise@mozilla.org' <enterprise@mozilla.org>
Betreff: AW: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

Can't see any difference 32 <-> 64 at my environment but maybe it needs further 
investigations?

Tried Wireshark and ProcessMonitor. All I could get out was the Safebrowsing 
folder is heavily used and the update of the files takes up to 45..60 seconds. 
Disabling reduced (a lot of) the IOPS for the harddisks - but sorry, not the 
issue at all.

To me it looks like UI of the standard Firefox 53 is more responsive (on the 
same hardware).

Hope it helps...

Bernd


-Original Message-
Von: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] Im Auftrag von William 
Spratt
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. April 2017 09:09
An: David Keeler <dkee...@mozilla.com>; enterprise@mozilla.org
Betreff: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

Hi All,

Has anyone noticed this issue with the 64-bit version?  I've noticed it on the 
32-bit, and was wondering if switching to 64-bit would resolve the hanging 
issue?

Regards

Will

Will Spratt
IT Science Support Specialist
Tel: 01904 46 2631

-Original Message-
From: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] On Behalf Of David 
Keeler
Sent: 27 April 2017 01:02
To: enterprise@mozilla.org
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

Firefox has a couple of tools that could be helpful in tracking down the issue. 
The network monitor might illustrate if the problem is in the network or not 
(Tools -> Web Developer -> Network). You could also try the new Gecko profiler 
( https://perf-html.io/ - here's a talk on how to use it: 
https://air.mozilla.org/gecko-profiler-introduction/ ). It's a bit more 
heavy-weight (and you can do more with it on more recent versions of Firefox 
than 52), but it can help diagnose these sorts of issues.

Cheers,
David

On 04/26/2017 04:50 PM, Jim Weill wrote:
> I tried bringing up a local wiki we have on a server internal to our 
> network, and even that page took well over 30+ seconds to load.  We've 
> been avoiding adding Chrome to our managed software list, but this 
> experience has me re-considering it, honestly.
> 
> jim
> 
> 
> On 4/25/2017 6:38 PM, Stephanie Daugherty wrote:
>> Pages have also become a lot "heavier" with massive javascript 
>> libraries, AJAX, higher resolution images, and the like. Given that 
>> developers tend to have powerful machines, and testers may only test 
>> with a few tabs open, a lot of this slips by. Web pages these days 
>> are applications in their own right, and like any other application, 
>> as more resources become available, instead of those resources making 
>> the applications run faster, the developers use the resources to 
>> squeeze more bloat into the applications.
>>
> 
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-04-27 Thread Herzog, Bernd
Sorry not the UI - the timing after a user interaction on a page (click action, 
web page loading, popups etc). 

- Original Message -
Von: Herzog, Bernd 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. April 2017 10:23
An: 'enterprise@mozilla.org' <enterprise@mozilla.org>
Betreff: AW: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

Can't see any difference 32 <-> 64 at my environment but maybe it needs further 
investigations?

Tried Wireshark and ProcessMonitor. All I could get out was the Safebrowsing 
folder is heavily used and the update of the files takes up to 45..60 seconds. 
Disabling reduced (a lot of) the IOPS for the harddisks - but sorry, not the 
issue at all.

To me it looks like UI of the standard Firefox 53 is more responsive (on the 
same hardware).

Hope it helps...

Bernd


-Original Message-
Von: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] Im Auftrag von William 
Spratt
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. April 2017 09:09
An: David Keeler <dkee...@mozilla.com>; enterprise@mozilla.org
Betreff: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

Hi All,

Has anyone noticed this issue with the 64-bit version?  I've noticed it on the 
32-bit, and was wondering if switching to 64-bit would resolve the hanging 
issue?

Regards

Will

Will Spratt
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From: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] On Behalf Of David 
Keeler
Sent: 27 April 2017 01:02
To: enterprise@mozilla.org
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

Firefox has a couple of tools that could be helpful in tracking down the issue. 
The network monitor might illustrate if the problem is in the network or not 
(Tools -> Web Developer -> Network). You could also try the new Gecko profiler 
( https://perf-html.io/ - here's a talk on how to use it: 
https://air.mozilla.org/gecko-profiler-introduction/ ). It's a bit more 
heavy-weight (and you can do more with it on more recent versions of Firefox 
than 52), but it can help diagnose these sorts of issues.

Cheers,
David

On 04/26/2017 04:50 PM, Jim Weill wrote:
> I tried bringing up a local wiki we have on a server internal to our 
> network, and even that page took well over 30+ seconds to load.  We've 
> been avoiding adding Chrome to our managed software list, but this 
> experience has me re-considering it, honestly.
> 
> jim
> 
> 
> On 4/25/2017 6:38 PM, Stephanie Daugherty wrote:
>> Pages have also become a lot "heavier" with massive javascript 
>> libraries, AJAX, higher resolution images, and the like. Given that 
>> developers tend to have powerful machines, and testers may only test 
>> with a few tabs open, a lot of this slips by. Web pages these days 
>> are applications in their own right, and like any other application, 
>> as more resources become available, instead of those resources making 
>> the applications run faster, the developers use the resources to 
>> squeeze more bloat into the applications.
>>
> 
> 
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-04-27 Thread Herzog, Bernd
Can't see any difference 32 <-> 64 at my environment but maybe it needs further 
investigations?

Tried Wireshark and ProcessMonitor. All I could get out was the Safebrowsing 
folder is heavily used and the update of the files takes up to 45..60 seconds. 
Disabling reduced (a lot of) the IOPS for the harddisks - but sorry, not the 
issue at all.

To me it looks like UI of the standard Firefox 53 is more responsive (on the 
same hardware).

Hope it helps...

Bernd


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Von: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] Im Auftrag von William 
Spratt
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. April 2017 09:09
An: David Keeler <dkee...@mozilla.com>; enterprise@mozilla.org
Betreff: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

Hi All,

Has anyone noticed this issue with the 64-bit version?  I've noticed it on the 
32-bit, and was wondering if switching to 64-bit would resolve the hanging 
issue?

Regards

Will

Will Spratt
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Tel: 01904 46 2631

-Original Message-
From: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] On Behalf Of David 
Keeler
Sent: 27 April 2017 01:02
To: enterprise@mozilla.org
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

Firefox has a couple of tools that could be helpful in tracking down the issue. 
The network monitor might illustrate if the problem is in the network or not 
(Tools -> Web Developer -> Network). You could also try the new Gecko profiler 
( https://perf-html.io/ - here's a talk on how to use it: 
https://air.mozilla.org/gecko-profiler-introduction/ ). It's a bit more 
heavy-weight (and you can do more with it on more recent versions of Firefox 
than 52), but it can help diagnose these sorts of issues.

Cheers,
David

On 04/26/2017 04:50 PM, Jim Weill wrote:
> I tried bringing up a local wiki we have on a server internal to our 
> network, and even that page took well over 30+ seconds to load.  We've 
> been avoiding adding Chrome to our managed software list, but this 
> experience has me re-considering it, honestly.
> 
> jim
> 
> 
> On 4/25/2017 6:38 PM, Stephanie Daugherty wrote:
>> Pages have also become a lot "heavier" with massive javascript 
>> libraries, AJAX, higher resolution images, and the like. Given that 
>> developers tend to have powerful machines, and testers may only test 
>> with a few tabs open, a lot of this slips by. Web pages these days 
>> are applications in their own right, and like any other application, 
>> as more resources become available, instead of those resources making 
>> the applications run faster, the developers use the resources to 
>> squeeze more bloat into the applications.
>>
> 
> 
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-04-27 Thread Johann Wurm REEM GMBH
Hello,

I noticed slow loading with router admin page in my home network. Over http it 
is slow, over https (without certificate) it is fast.

Regards,
Johann

Von: David Keeler<mailto:dkee...@mozilla.com>
Gesendet: ‎27.‎04.‎2017 02:03
An: enterprise@mozilla.org<mailto:enterprise@mozilla.org>
Betreff: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

Firefox has a couple of tools that could be helpful in tracking down the
issue. The network monitor might illustrate if the problem is in the
network or not (Tools -> Web Developer -> Network). You could also try
the new Gecko profiler ( https://perf-html.io/ - here's a talk on how to
use it: https://air.mozilla.org/gecko-profiler-introduction/ ). It's a
bit more heavy-weight (and you can do more with it on more recent
versions of Firefox than 52), but it can help diagnose these sorts of
issues.

Cheers,
David

On 04/26/2017 04:50 PM, Jim Weill wrote:
> I tried bringing up a local wiki we have on a server internal to our
> network, and even that page took well over 30+ seconds to load.  We've
> been avoiding adding Chrome to our managed software list, but this
> experience has me re-considering it, honestly.
>
> jim
>
>
> On 4/25/2017 6:38 PM, Stephanie Daugherty wrote:
>> Pages have also become a lot "heavier" with massive javascript
>> libraries, AJAX, higher resolution images, and the like. Given that
>> developers tend to have powerful machines, and testers may only test
>> with a few tabs open, a lot of this slips by. Web pages these days are
>> applications in their own right, and like any other application, as
>> more resources become available, instead of those resources making the
>> applications run faster, the developers use the resources to squeeze
>> more bloat into the applications.
>>
>
>
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-04-27 Thread William Spratt
Hi All,

Has anyone noticed this issue with the 64-bit version?  I've noticed it on the 
32-bit, and was wondering if switching to 64-bit would resolve the hanging 
issue?

Regards

Will

Will Spratt
IT Science Support Specialist
Tel: 01904 46 2631

-Original Message-
From: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] On Behalf Of David 
Keeler
Sent: 27 April 2017 01:02
To: enterprise@mozilla.org
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

Firefox has a couple of tools that could be helpful in tracking down the issue. 
The network monitor might illustrate if the problem is in the network or not 
(Tools -> Web Developer -> Network). You could also try the new Gecko profiler 
( https://perf-html.io/ - here's a talk on how to use it: 
https://air.mozilla.org/gecko-profiler-introduction/ ). It's a bit more 
heavy-weight (and you can do more with it on more recent versions of Firefox 
than 52), but it can help diagnose these sorts of issues.

Cheers,
David

On 04/26/2017 04:50 PM, Jim Weill wrote:
> I tried bringing up a local wiki we have on a server internal to our 
> network, and even that page took well over 30+ seconds to load.  We've 
> been avoiding adding Chrome to our managed software list, but this 
> experience has me re-considering it, honestly.
> 
> jim
> 
> 
> On 4/25/2017 6:38 PM, Stephanie Daugherty wrote:
>> Pages have also become a lot "heavier" with massive javascript 
>> libraries, AJAX, higher resolution images, and the like. Given that 
>> developers tend to have powerful machines, and testers may only test 
>> with a few tabs open, a lot of this slips by. Web pages these days 
>> are applications in their own right, and like any other application, 
>> as more resources become available, instead of those resources making 
>> the applications run faster, the developers use the resources to 
>> squeeze more bloat into the applications.
>>
> 
> 
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-04-26 Thread David Keeler
Firefox has a couple of tools that could be helpful in tracking down the
issue. The network monitor might illustrate if the problem is in the
network or not (Tools -> Web Developer -> Network). You could also try
the new Gecko profiler ( https://perf-html.io/ - here's a talk on how to
use it: https://air.mozilla.org/gecko-profiler-introduction/ ). It's a
bit more heavy-weight (and you can do more with it on more recent
versions of Firefox than 52), but it can help diagnose these sorts of
issues.

Cheers,
David

On 04/26/2017 04:50 PM, Jim Weill wrote:
> I tried bringing up a local wiki we have on a server internal to our
> network, and even that page took well over 30+ seconds to load.  We've
> been avoiding adding Chrome to our managed software list, but this
> experience has me re-considering it, honestly.
> 
> jim
> 
> 
> On 4/25/2017 6:38 PM, Stephanie Daugherty wrote:
>> Pages have also become a lot "heavier" with massive javascript
>> libraries, AJAX, higher resolution images, and the like. Given that
>> developers tend to have powerful machines, and testers may only test
>> with a few tabs open, a lot of this slips by. Web pages these days are
>> applications in their own right, and like any other application, as
>> more resources become available, instead of those resources making the
>> applications run faster, the developers use the resources to squeeze
>> more bloat into the applications.
>>
> 
> 
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-04-26 Thread Jim Weill
I tried bringing up a local wiki we have on a server internal to our 
network, and even that page took well over 30+ seconds to load.  We've 
been avoiding adding Chrome to our managed software list, but this 
experience has me re-considering it, honestly.


jim


On 4/25/2017 6:38 PM, Stephanie Daugherty wrote:
Pages have also become a lot "heavier" with massive javascript 
libraries, AJAX, higher resolution images, and the like. Given that 
developers tend to have powerful machines, and testers may only test 
with a few tabs open, a lot of this slips by. Web pages these days are 
applications in their own right, and like any other application, as 
more resources become available, instead of those resources making the 
applications run faster, the developers use the resources to squeeze 
more bloat into the applications.





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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-04-25 Thread Jim Weill

On 4/25/2017 2:44 PM, Stephen Dowdy wrote:
I saw references to Adobe Flashplayer being responsible for this, and 
lo/behold, upon switching Flashplayer to "Never Activate", the Gtk/Gdk 
messages stopped.

I then disabled Flashplayer in all of my other profiles , and my Atlassian 
Confluence tabs suddenly became usable again. (instead of 30 seconds of 
grinding waiting to edit a page or authenticate, it took no more than 4-5 
seconds).

While i'm massively disappointed in the performance still (yeah, partly the 
freakin' web and it's abundance of dazzle/privacy-theft sites), it turns out 
that Flashplayer being active for a single tab was killing my system.



I will say that the sites which have flash installed and/or running were 
closed when I made my initial post (but the original process was still 
open), and I was having trouble waiting for one of my folders in gmail 
to open -- it took 53 seconds to go from "inbox" in gmail to a 
subfolder/label.  I do notice that firefox takes up well over 750MB of 
memory when I check the process and I know the bulk of that is due to 
flash, but I'll give disabling flash a try.  I do run Flashblock 
extension, but some pages still try loading video under the blocked 
flash container anyway >:-\


jim

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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-04-25 Thread Stephen Dowdy
On 04/25/2017 03:29 PM, Jim Weill wrote:
> I have been experiencing a problem with web pages refusing to load for more 
> than 60 seconds in some cases since updating to the newest version of the 
> 52.x track.  My office internet is a 1Gbps incoming line, of which I usually 
> get no less than 10Mbps when there is high traffic on the line.
> 
> I am finding that such disparate sites as google, facebook, and other 
> high-reliability sites sit and spin at random times throughout the day.  If I 
> open a command line and ping that site, I get a ping time of 3-10ms and very 
> little deviation from the time on a continuous ping (i.e. no single ping 
> taking more than the time specified, or nslookup errors, etc).  Yet the site 
> sits and spins for far too long before eventually loading correctly. Is there 
> a preference I have set wrong that's causing this, or is this behavior also 
> being noticed by anyone else on this release track?

Jim,
My own experience... Waaay back in the days of KDE3 and Firefox 13(?) i could 
easily have 700 tabs and 300 windows open on a much less capable Linux/amd64 
desktop w/o any appreciable slowness.

For the past couple years, even with a decent machine and 32GB of ram, i have 
*massive* latency (upto 30 second tab loads in some cases) in all firefox 
profiles i run (i generally run 3-5 different profiles simultaneously to do 
different tasks and split load as too many tabs/windows is glacially slow.  In 
sum i still run 300-1000 total tabs and several hundred windows).   My fans 
spin high because the CPU is under duress...

Anyway, while testing FF 53 before deploy to the organization's linux NFS 
server the other day, i started from a terminal window (rather than the DE 
Launcher) and saw a bunch of Gtk and Gdk assertion failures and such when 
hitting a specific page.   I've seen these before, but they usually came in 
small dribbles; now they were just perpetual on that site.

I saw references to Adobe Flashplayer being responsible for this, and 
lo/behold, upon switching Flashplayer to "Never Activate", the Gtk/Gdk messages 
stopped.
I then disabled Flashplayer in all of my other profiles , and my Atlassian 
Confluence tabs suddenly became usable again. (instead of 30 seconds of 
grinding waiting to edit a page or authenticate, it took no more than 4-5 
seconds).

While i'm massively disappointed in the performance still (yeah, partly the 
freakin' web and it's abundance of dazzle/privacy-theft sites), it turns out 
that Flashplayer being active for a single tab was killing my system.

Fortunately, it seems most websites are now either flash-free, or able to run 
without it.  (i have NoScript installed as well).

So, try making sure all your plugins (esp Flash) are disabled and see if you 
can still replicate the slowness.  (or run in 'safe' mode).  (i feel so dirty 
now using the cop-out Mozilla Support "run it in SAFE MODE" excuse :-( )

--stephen
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[Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-04-25 Thread Jim Weill
I have been experiencing a problem with web pages refusing to load for 
more than 60 seconds in some cases since updating to the newest version 
of the 52.x track.  My office internet is a 1Gbps incoming line, of 
which I usually get no less than 10Mbps when there is high traffic on 
the line.


I am finding that such disparate sites as google, facebook, and other 
high-reliability sites sit and spin at random times throughout the day.  
If I open a command line and ping that site, I get a ping time of 3-10ms 
and very little deviation from the time on a continuous ping (i.e. no 
single ping taking more than the time specified, or nslookup errors, 
etc).  Yet the site sits and spins for far too long before eventually 
loading correctly. Is there a preference I have set wrong that's causing 
this, or is this behavior also being noticed by anyone else on this 
release track?


jim


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