Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-16 Thread Jane Waters
Finally, we've gone completely of the edge in this conversation :-D It's been great. and I might keep this one in my crafts hints and tips section - ROFLMAO!! Jane --- Bill Gillooly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a cousin who did papercraft and made Christmas wreaths out of

Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-14 Thread Bob
Javier Perez wrote: Not sure but I think this may have been some sort of wide carriage printer that printed on perforated paper a sheet at a time. Of course I never actually saw it. javier Javier The printer I described printed wide or narrow forms. In once site it printed credit card

Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-14 Thread Bob
Jane Waters wrote: I am no longer a member of the fraternity er, the sorority... er, whatever the club was. And I am grateful. But this conversation has just brought back so many memories - both good AND bad. As Tom said, sometimes it was fun, but most of the nights were just plain hard

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-14 Thread Tom Pfeiffer
also read a lot of technical material from some guy named Louis L'Amour. Tom P. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:15 PM To: eos@a1.nl Subject: Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion Javier Perez wrote: I knew

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-14 Thread Jane Waters
--- Javier Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I knew a guy who worked with some sort of IBM super-printer that was so fast that sometimes the paper caught fire! Not sure if that makes me old or youn! Either that or it was drugs... never saw that one before ;-)

Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-14 Thread Jane Waters
--- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/09/07, Javier Perez, discombobulated, unleashed: Wow! I hadn't noticed. There are some very interesting people on this list! And every single one is/was a computer programmer ;-) I had no idea when I joined this list that it was so riddled with

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-14 Thread Jane Waters
--- Tom Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1403? Sorry, I didn't use printers that had REAL carriage control tapes, I'm just a youngster. If it couldn't spill your coffee by raising the lid automatically when it ran out of paper, it was b4 my time. I'm sorry to have gotten us so off topic,

Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-14 Thread Tapani Tarvainen
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 04:05:04AM -0700, Javier Perez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: The interesting thing would be to get the bios of an old machine like that to work with a 4gb SD! It would probably take a month to highlevel format the thing! I once put a ~ 1GB disk to an original IBM PC... a

Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-14 Thread Javier Perez
I once put a ~ 1GB disk to an original IBM PC... a SCSI disk, with SCSI adapter that had its own BIOS. As I recall it didn't take even all day to format it, but running the program the setup was for took almost three months. (No, it had nothing to with cameras, let alone EOS.) --

Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-14 Thread Bill Gillooly
I had a cousin who did papercraft and made Christmas wreaths out of punch-cards. She painted them gold and they looked very nice. Mr. Bill Bob wrote: Part ofthe fun of retiring from Big Blue after 40 years is cleaning the garage and the basement. I uncovered a box of---* 5081s *---

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-14 Thread Peter Hancock
Wow! And all because I mentioned the 40D does batch delete... To bring it back to EOS, has anyone any idea how fast the 40D can write? E.g. Sandisk do cards that claim 10, 20 and 40MB per second, what might be worth paying for? Thanks, Peter -- The University of Stirling is a university

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-14 Thread Francis Zhou
I used such printers. Not sure if that makes me old or young! Thanks, Francis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Javier Perez Sent: September 13, 2007 10:26 AM To: eos@a1.nl Subject: RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion I knew a guy who worked

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-14 Thread Francis Zhou
.nl Subject: Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion We had super fast laser printers. The stuff to be printed was written with a laser on a drum. Then toner was picked up and stayed where the laser wrote stuff. Then the toner was electrostatically transferred to the paper and the static charge

Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-14 Thread Bob
Javier Perez wrote: As for the printer, All I know is what I heard. I'm pretty sure it was an IBM printer of the kind you would have found attached to a mainframe. It was supposed to be some sort of super high speed printer that could print as fast as it could be fed or something like that.

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-14 Thread Bob Wise
13, 2007 7:08 PM To: eos@a1.nl Subject: RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion --- Tom Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1403? Sorry, I didn't use printers that had REAL carriage control tapes, I'm just a youngster. If it couldn't spill your coffee by raising the lid automatically when it ran out

Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-14 Thread Javier Perez
You are probably right Bob Unfortunately the fellow who told me the story died six years and three days ago. When he told me I thought about it for a few seconds, finished my cigarrette break and went back to doing my stupid my helpdesk job. I just got an as-is Nikon D100 in the mail. It

Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-14 Thread Bob
Tom Pfeiffer wrote: All joking aside, we did have a print operator once at our Chicago office who almost lost his arm from a paper cut from an IBM 3800 (which used the LARGE rolls of paper and cut and stacked it into letter sized sheets. You learned to stay away from the incoming paper path.

Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-13 Thread Cotty
On 12/09/07, Javier Perez, discombobulated, unleashed: Wow! I hadn't noticed. There are some very interesting people on this list! And every single one is/was a computer programmer ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-13 Thread Bob
Tom Pfeiffer wrote: The Next Big Thing when I was a programmer was top down, structured programming (COBOL and 370 Assembler). Like Jane, I remember the days fondly, the nights not so fondly, and hardly ever wish I still had a clue what goes on under the hood. I was one of the lucky ones. We

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-13 Thread Tom Pfeiffer
! Tom P. PS - You also got paid overtime? Sheesh, THAT would have been nice. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:04 AM To: eos@a1.nl Subject: Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion Tom Pfeiffer wrote: The Next

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-13 Thread Tom Pfeiffer
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:53 AM To: eos@a1.nl Subject: Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion Tom Pfeiffer wrote: So you were one of those guys who came in, completely disassembled a reader/punch all over the computer

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-13 Thread Javier Perez
I knew a guy who worked with some sort of IBM super-printer that was so fast that sometimes the paper caught fire! Not sure if that makes me old or youn! Javier Javier http://www.ultragone.net www.ultragone.net

Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-13 Thread Bob
Tom Pfeiffer wrote: So you were one of those guys who came in, completely disassembled a reader/punch all over the computer room floor, and then went to the lunchroom to read the novel in your back pocket and drink coffee until two other guys showed up to help you put it back together? :) You

Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-13 Thread Bob
Javier Perez wrote: I knew a guy who worked with some sort of IBM super-printer that was so fast that sometimes the paper caught fire! Not sure if that makes me old or youn! Javier Javier We had super fast laser printers. The stuff to be printed was written with a laser on a drum.

Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-13 Thread Jane Waters
--- Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Pfeiffer wrote: The Next Big Thing when I was a programmer was top down, structured programming (COBOL and 370 Assembler). Like Jane, I remember the days fondly, the nights not so fondly, and hardly ever wish I still had a clue what goes on under the

Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-13 Thread Javier Perez
Not sure but I think this may have been some sort of wide carriage printer that printed on perforated paper a sheet at a time. Of course I never actually saw it. javier Javier http://www.ultragone.net www.ultragone.net

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-12 Thread Javier Perez
Hi Actually ISA IDE cards were very common because the clone AT board makers did't have much embeded. Some of those cards could be used in AT or XT mode. The hard item to find would have been an XT 8 bit card but I think they may have existed as well. There were even a few ISA 8086 boards for that

Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-12 Thread Javier Perez
I've used 8 floppies (in a CPT word processor), but I've never even seen a 12 floppy, though I did write a program using punch cards. I think he may be talking about those removable platter disks from the old IBMs Javier http://www.ultragone.net www.ultragone.net

Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-12 Thread Jane Waters
--- Bill Gillooly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used 8 floppies (in a CPT word processor), but I've never even seen a 12 floppy, though I did write a program using punch cards. Mr. Bill Oh my, yes sitting at the machine, punching cards, feeding them into the tiny IBM machine in the

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-12 Thread Javier Perez
--- Francis Zhou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Punch tape and ALGOL 60, any takers? We used a little hammer and a chisel of sorts plus generous amount of masking tape to fix the coding errors. There was no keyboard per se. We used rows and rows of flip switches to punch in the command. You flip

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-12 Thread Javier Perez
Quite so Francis. Unfortunately in my case I became too obsessed with hardware and forgot about most everything else. Fortran, Assembly, a tad of C, Acad and a couple weird OSes were all I ever got into. I kinda tuned out when the object oriented craze started. (I think it's still going) Instead

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-12 Thread Francis Zhou
: RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion Careful now! You don't want to give away your true age! Javier * *** *** * For list instructions, including unsubscribe, see: *http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/eos_list.htm ***

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-12 Thread Francis Zhou
] Behalf Of Jane Waters Sent: September 12, 2007 9:05 AM To: eos@a1.nl Subject: Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion Oh my, yes sitting at the machine, punching cards, feeding them into the tiny IBM machine in the carefully air-conditioned room next door, coming back in the morning to see if your program

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-12 Thread Jane Waters
--- Francis Zhou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you did feel a sense of control back then. Not this Windows BS. You don't even know where the program bombed or how. Thanks, Francis ROFL control of something, but definitely not the machines or the programming errors! I had forgotten

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-12 Thread Javier Perez
Wow! I hadn't noticed. There are some very interesting people on this list! I'm 43 and I guess you might say I collect junk! Javier --- Jane Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Francis Zhou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you did feel a sense of control back then. Not this Windows BS. You

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-12 Thread Tom Pfeiffer
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Javier Perez Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:36 AM To: eos@a1.nl Subject: RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion Quite so Francis. Unfortunately in my case I became too obsessed with hardware and forgot about most everything else. Fortran

Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-12 Thread Schlake
If you don't know how to program then how do you write the custom software you need to pull images off the flash card, and then index, sort, and process them in exactly the way you want? On 9/12/07, Jane Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ROFL control of something, but definitely not the

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-11 Thread Michael Stevens
Is this seriously an issue? I've shot hundreds of thousands of photos on my 10D, 1D, and 1D.2, chimping heavily and deleting much. Still do and always will chimp and delete on the fly. Since buying my first DSLR somewhere around 6 or 8 years ago I have had exactly 1 compact flash card go bad on

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-11 Thread Austin Franklin
Hi Schlake, CF cards are designed to run circularly through their memory to avoid wearing out any cells. I'm not sure that's the reason. The reason is for access time, they want to keep the files concurrent, as in, no scatter/gather. It's a valid reason, but causes problems if you have file

Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/09/07, Javier Perez, discombobulated, unleashed: Sure when I find a Mk2 parts or as-is for like 1200 like I did my 1Ds! Seriously, there's no way I would pay more than that for a camera no matter how good or modern it was! I had no idea the Mk2 had an sd instead of a cf. I'm not surprised.

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-11 Thread Austin Franklin
Hi Don, I wonder if the problem was with the cameras or the CF cards since the same CF card could be used in a Canon, a Nikon, a Cisco router, etc. Does the camera, or device that uses a CF card, just present the file to the CF card? Each might have it's own way of formatting the data

Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-11 Thread Javier Perez
OK That makes even more sense. I assume you can use both slots at the same time. Since IDE supports 2 drives/channel and I guess the sd is acting like an ide. Later Javier Javier http://www.ultragone.net www.ultragone.net

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-11 Thread Ken Lin
Whew, THAT was trip down memory lane! One of the young pup at work today was trying to give me a few boxes of 5-1/4 floppy disks from a project many, many years ago. I told him I've seen (although not used) 8 floppies, and I've even seen 12 floppies. Ken * ***

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-11 Thread Tom Pfeiffer
Actually, finding an IDE controller for an ISA card slot would be no easy task, since virtually all hard drives in the days of the XT were either MFM, RLL or SCSI (ESDI was too minor to count). By the time the 16 bit bus appeared in '84, Compaq was using lots of Conner IDE drives in their 80286

Re: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-11 Thread Bill Gillooly
I've used 8 floppies (in a CPT word processor), but I've never even seen a 12 floppy, though I did write a program using punch cards. Mr. Bill Ken Lin wrote: I told him I've seen (although not used) 8 floppies, and I've even seen 12 floppies. * ***

RE: EOS CF Cards and deletion

2007-09-11 Thread Jane Waters
--- Ken Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the young pup at work today was trying to give me a few boxes of 5-1/4 floppy disks from a project many, many years ago. I told him I've seen (although not used) 8 floppies, and I've even seen 12 floppies. I'll go you one better. I DID