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If your desktop1 is also a gateway, I think it would look more like
this...
SWGW/FW/Desktop1-CM
|
+Desktop2
In that setup, you'll need to nics in desktop1. One for the cable
modem incoming, and one to go out to the switch. The gateway will get
it's IP from
On 1/31/02 10:44 PM, Larry Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suspect that RMS has taken to using this as a test of ideological purity
bsd bigot
You know... Jordan Hubbard isn't like this and his OS is truly free, as in,
you can take the source and do WHATEVER you want (Just ask the Windows
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The particular issue at hand though could have direct impact to the website
and is more clearly directly related to the EUGLUG in general than other
activism items would be. Therefore it seems just to have this discussion on
this list.
On Friday 01 February 2002 08:50 am, you wrote:
List
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Jacob Shaw wrote:
On 1/31/02 10:44 PM, Larry Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suspect that RMS has taken to using this as a test of ideological purity
see rms's reply especially the bit about words are important
bsd bigot
You know... Jordan Hubbard isn't like
On 20020201.1024, Larry Price said ...
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Jacob Shaw wrote:
The BSD's are good operating systems, the machine i'm typing this on used
to run freebsd before debian took over, and I'm running OpenBSD on my
laptop. But, there is a reason that the linux kernel now runs on
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Rob Hudson wrote:
Other than the disadvantage of choosing a platform in the minority,
what's the reason to choose a GPLd platform? Or, why NOT choose *BSD?
The GPL actually encourages the right sorts of competition for the entire
system to grow faster, this is why people
On Friday 01 February 2002 10:34, Rob Hudson wrote:
On 20020201.1024, Larry Price said ...
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Jacob Shaw wrote:
The BSD's are good operating systems, the machine i'm typing this
on used to run freebsd before debian took over, and I'm running
OpenBSD on my laptop.
Do you mean GNU/OpenBSD ? my count on that is 8 syls (too lazy to type all
the letters for sylables).
Jamie
On Thursday 31 January 2002 21:06, you wrote:
it's
just as many syllables as Open-B-S-D ;]), then do you really think they're
worth your time anyway?
On Friday 01 February 2002 08:40, Jacob Shaw wrote:
On 1/31/02 10:44 PM, Larry Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suspect that RMS has taken to using this as a test of
ideological purity
bsd bigot
You know... Jordan Hubbard isn't like this and his OS is truly free,
as in, you can take
While I see why it's happened, I wish these threads hadn't spread
themselves over two EUGLUG lists (ome of which, [EMAIL PROTECTED], is not
linked from www.euglug.org, and maybe not archived at all), and I'm really
unhappy that while RMS is a major subject of them, so much of them is
On Friday 01 February 2002 11:34, Linux Rocks ! wrote:
Do you mean GNU/OpenBSD ? my count on that is 8 syls (too lazy to
type all the letters for sylables).
I haven't heard of anyone proposing GNU/OpenBSD (no glibc, no bash,
no..., well maybe the compiler tool chain). The writer's point was
--- Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's not about purity in the abstract, it's about whether you spread
the confusion that hampers our work, or help correct it.
I agree with that 100%. Influential people like Bill G. say the GPL and
the GNU/Linux system is bad. Well, if you like
For all of us making assumptions about what RMS/FSF are trying to do
with the GNU/Linux name, this article and the ones it links to might be
worth taking a look at:
http://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html
Jim,
I thought of a couple of links you might also like:
www.euglug.org -- Eugene Linux
www.lwn.net -- Linux weekly News
www.RockSolidNetworks.com --- Linux only networking company (me.. sorry, I
havnt paid my hosting bill... site is currently down)
Justin,
so... It may be a simple cableing issue for you... You can plug your cable
modem into the switch/hub, then the rest of the computers into the
swtich/hub. You could also connect the cable modem into the firwall box, add
a nic, and connect that nic to the switch. This physically
On Friday 01 February 2002 11:47, Tim Howe wrote:
I think it's fairly obvious why Linux, and not BSD, has become the
stray cat that big business is doting on right now: When you say
Linux, people recognize the name, when you say BSD they haven't a
clue. There has been a shitload of press
On Friday 01 February 2002 07:39, you wrote:
Bob, who you calling a Squid ?
Richard,
If you would like to subscribe to our list, I can assist you, or you can do
it yourself by sending a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with the message,
subscribe eug-lug in it.
On another note. Ive noticed you mention the right thing to do many times,
infact, so many Im
--- Edward Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While I see why it's happened, I wish these threads hadn't spread
themselves over two EUGLUG lists (ome of which, [EMAIL PROTECTED], is not
linked from www.euglug.org, and maybe not archived at all), and I'm really
unhappy that while RMS is a
Rob Hudson wrote:
Other than the disadvantage of choosing a platform in the minority,
what's the reason to choose a GPLd platform? Or, why NOT choose *BSD?
Technical reasons: many and varied, and they point in both directions.
I'm not prepared to go there, but I'll mention that I have boxes
Mark Bigler wrote:
I haven't heard of anyone proposing GNU/OpenBSD (no glibc, no bash,
no..., well maybe the compiler tool chain).
There's a fair amount of GNU stuff in OpenBSD...
obsd ~ ls /usr/src/gnu/*
/usr/src/gnu/CVS:
Entries Repository Root
/usr/src/gnu/Makefile
--- Linux Rocks ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Justin,
so... It may be a simple cableing issue for you... You can plug your cable
modem into the switch/hub, then the rest of the computers into the
swtich/hub. You could also connect the cable modem into the firwall box, add
a nic, and connect
signoff EUG-LUG
On Friday 01 February 2002 13:05, Doug Mason wrote:
signoff EUG-LUG
If people are starting to drop this list due to the recent traffic on
GNU/Linux. Maybe we _should_ move this over to activism.
If someone (kbob?) can copy the threads over there, we can use that as
the signal to hold the
Yes. We Should not Rush to change things just because its The Way Things
Ought To Be.
Jamie
Maybe we should consult with Wilford Brimley about this?
Jamie
justin bengtson wrote:
the real dilema, and what i can't puzzle out and/or visualize, is how to route
to a dynamic IP. especially when i only have one NIC in the router. setting
up a gateway is simple (for me) when all of the IP's are static and i have two
NICs.
i need to route inside traffic
I would suggest just getting another nic, but you also have the option of
setting up the gateway/firewall box with one nic.
The boss just walked in and so Ill mention that I could sell you a firewall
box I have a nice 486 66 mhz slim desktop I could sell cheap... throw a
couple
LinuxJournal just did an article on how to convert an old laptop into
a linux based wireless access point. How much do you want for the
laptop? All you need is a PCMCIA network card, and a PCMCIA wireless
card and your set.
-Rob
On 20020201.1416, Linux Rocks! said ...
On a side note, I
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They seem to have forgotten this in their posting.
However, burried in their web page I found:
The social will start around 6 or 7 PM and will be
held at the Lucky Labrador Brewing Company (http://www.luckylab.com)
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Jamie Jackson wrote:
Maybe this is a newbie
I actually am in posession of several laptops, but the only one I can sell is:
486 cpu (25mhz I think..)
4 megs ram
1 meg video
120 meg hard disk
built in 2400 faxmodem
monochrome VGA (640x480)
has dos/windows 3.1 installed
has basic internet apps installed (mail, web, ...)
comes with external
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Doug Mason wrote:
thanks, it isn't anything personal,
Good to know, given the occasional flame wars
it is just that 7/8ths or so of the e-mails are way over my head.
We don't mean to intimidate anyone, though.
Most of what we're about is answering
Actually these were just the tip of the iceberg which I saw in one place,
and I thought I* would send to the list since I hadn't seen a listing on the
list for 6 monyhs or so, I figured we have some new people reading the list
since then and they would like a starting place. With these and the
Why not just call it (*nix|AIX|*BSD|*bsd) . That should keep everybody
happy. RMS will this satisfy you.
Jim K
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