Re: [Eug-lug]Re: Freaky and Naked on the Net // telnet server abuse/illegality and dmca-patriot

2003-02-06 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 02:19:14PM -0800, Ben Barrett wrote: > Speaking of all this, isn't it accurate to say that telnet'ing in to > ANYONE else's mail servers, without their expressed consent, violates > some of the more recent laws (dmca or patriot act?)...?? Granted most > people on this list

Re: [Eug-lug]Re: Freaky and Naked on the Net // telnet serverabuse/illegality and dmca-patriot

2003-02-06 Thread Larry Price
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Ben Barrett wrote: > Really, the example showing connection to a mail server is not an evil > one, but I would think it wise to provide a disclaimer, stating that "I > am sysadmin on this box" or "I have permission, so only try this on YOUR > OWN box". Not that I've heard of an

Re: [Eug-lug]Re: Freaky and Naked on the Net // telnet server abuse/illegality and dmca-patriot

2003-02-06 Thread Linux Rocks !
On Thursday 06 February 2003 02:19 pm, Ben Barrett wrote: : Speaking of all this, isn't it accurate to say that telnet'ing in to : ANYONE else's mail servers, without their expressed consent, violates : some of the more recent laws (dmca or patriot act?)...?? Granted most : people on this list are

[Eug-lug]Re: Freaky and Naked on the Net // telnet server abuse/illegalityand dmca-patriot

2003-02-06 Thread Ben Barrett
Speaking of all this, isn't it accurate to say that telnet'ing in to ANYONE else's mail servers, without their expressed consent, violates some of the more recent laws (dmca or patriot act?)...?? Granted most people on this list are rebels and all, but wouldn't it be wise to advise people AGAINST

Re: [Eug-lug]Re: Freaky and Naked on the Net

2003-02-06 Thread Patrick R. Wade
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 07:44:00PM -0800, Horst wrote: > > > Ben, you put together some interesting thoughts and links (I just >finished the motherjones article and had to resist the temptation of >quoting about half of it right here. > Instead, let's get concrete and ask the best ISP in town (EFN)

Re: [Eug-lug]Re: Freaky and Naked on the Net

2003-02-06 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 07:44:00PM -0800, Horst wrote: > Ben, you put together some interesting thoughts and links (I just > finished the motherjones article and had to resist the temptation of > quoting about half of it right here. > Instead, let's get concrete and ask the best ISP in town (EFN)

Re: [Eug-lug]Re: Freaky and Naked on the Net

2003-02-05 Thread Horst
Ben, you put together some interesting thoughts and links (I just finished the motherjones article and had to resist the temptation of quoting about half of it right here. Instead, let's get concrete and ask the best ISP in town (EFN) a few questions: ~ for EFN ~~~

[Eug-lug]Re: Freaky and Naked on the Net

2003-02-05 Thread Ben Barrett
I'm glad you posted the google-watch links, that's very interesting information. I am concerned by the popular belief that IP addresses somehow identify a single computer, however!!! In many cases, a single IP address is shared (say, via NAT) by dozens or even hundreds of computers. It can also b