Re: [eug-lug] I am getting SP***M - I apologize,...

2003-12-11 Thread Edward Craig
Because of the number of messages I'm rejecting to this and other lists from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (and quite a few others @msn.com) I'm guessing that yet another worm is out infecting Windows and targeting userIDs with spam. Perversely, I doubt any of these actually originate

Re: [eug-lug] I am getting SP***M - I apologize,...

2003-12-11 Thread Linux Rocks !
Sorry... :( Jamie On Thursday 11 December 2003 01:51 pm, Cory Petkovsek wrote: : Hey guys how about you take this personal discussion off list? : : Cory -- Even more amazing was the realization that God has Internet access. I wonder if He has a full newsfeed? -- Matt Welsh

Re: [eug-lug]FileSystem.mount()

2003-12-11 Thread Brad Davidson
I gave LUFS/SSHFS a try a while ago. The project as a whole looked very hackish, and it crashed constantly on my laptop. Now my laptop is PPC so there may be some endianness bugs, but even so - it seemed very amateur to me. -Brad Larry Price wrote: So there is this project called LUFS (Linux

Re: [eug-lug] I am getting SP***M - I apologize,...

2003-12-11 Thread Christopher Maujean
). - Original Message - From: Christopher Maujean [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:49 AM Subject: Re: [eug-lug] I am getting SP***M - I apologize,... I have been getting a fair amount of spam in my efn

Re: [eug-lug] I am getting SP***M - I apologize,...

2003-12-11 Thread Larry Price
Group's mail list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:49 AM Subject: Re: [eug-lug] I am getting SP***M - I apologize,... I have been getting a fair amount of spam in my efn inbox that looks like it is not being processed by the spam servers (no spamassassin headers). How

Re: [eug-lug]Linux at Lane CC

2003-12-11 Thread Linux Rocks !
Congradulation! I realy wish they had them back when I went there ( and yes, I asked many times...) I asked for perl classes too.. have they doen that yet? (or is perl dead?) Jamie On Thursday 11 December 2003 05:15 pm, Ken Barber wrote: : Last May we had a thread on eug-lug regarding Linux

Re: [eug-lug]Linux at Lane CC

2003-12-11 Thread Brad Davidson
Heretic! Speak not of the death of Perl! -Brad Linux Rocks ! wrote: Congradulation! I realy wish they had them back when I went there ( and yes, I asked many times...) I asked for perl classes too.. have they doen that yet? (or is perl dead?) ___

Re: [eug-lug] I am getting SP***M - I apologize,...

2003-12-11 Thread Bob Miller
Larry Price wrote: I'd like to try something like SPF http://spf.pobox.com I'm sending SPF on two domains (jogger-egg.com and kbobsoft.com), but I haven't been brave enough yet to start using it to reject mail. -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting

Re: [eug-lug]Linux at Lane CC

2003-12-11 Thread Bob Miller
Linux Rocks ! wrote: (or is perl dead?) Heck, even Cobol isn't dead yet. Perl will be with us for 20 more productivity killing years. -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [eug-lug]Miserable Failure

2003-12-11 Thread Patrick R. Wade
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 07:32:28PM -0800, Ben Barrett wrote: Doesn't anyone use AskJeeves any more? Now *there* is some real AI. So the interview was deliberately hosed as a red herring? -- UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED,

Re: [eug-lug]Compromised? Intruder??

2003-12-10 Thread Larry Price
what does netstat -an show you? it looks like blackjack may be a protocol name look in /etc/services or /etc/inetd.conf to see if you have a blackjack server running (your output shows your machine talking to itself and not having sent or received anything) On Wednesday, December 10, 2003,

Re: [eug-lug]Compromised? Intruder??

2003-12-10 Thread Bob Miller
Woody Mims wrote: Hi all -- Working on configuring a home Samba Server, I did a netstat -a. One line came up that I hadn't ever seen before: Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State udp00 localhost:blackjack

Re: [eug-lug]SMT soldering

2003-12-10 Thread Jamie
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 03:45 am, T. Joseph Carter wrote: : Does anyone here do surface mount soldering or know anyone who does? I'm : considering a memory upgrade for my TiVo. It comes with only 16 megs and : adding another 16 involves adding two SMT chips and reconfiguring the : device

Re: [eug-lug]journaling filesystems

2003-12-10 Thread Rob Hudson
Thank you all for the replies. ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug

Re: [eug-lug]Compromised? Intruder??

2003-12-10 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 12:49:07AM -0800, Woody Mims wrote: Hi all -- Working on configuring a home Samba Server, I did a netstat -a. One line came up that I hadn't ever seen before: Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State udp00

Re: [eug-lug]Wanted

2003-12-10 Thread jgw
You probably already know this, but I'd just pick something up at newegg.com. An Athlon 1.3ghz chip runs about $40. An Athlon XP 1.5ghz runs about $49. A motherboard for either chip probably isn't much more. /jgw I'm looking for a 1GHz or higher (not too much higher) CPU + motherboard if

Re: [eug-lug]Useful resource for newbies and non-technical people

2003-12-10 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 10:22:22PM -0800, Larry Price wrote: http://microsoft.toddverbeek.com/ Just say NO goes into detail about why and has a fairly agnostic approach to recommending alternative products... And, here is a growing list of equivalent products. Apparently the guy

Re: [eug-lug]Wanted

2003-12-10 Thread Rob Hudson
I thought it would be more, but you're right... I can get a lower end Athlon with motherboard and memory for about $150 at mwave.com. Thanks, Rob On 20031210.1117, jgw said ... You probably already know this, but I'd just pick something up at newegg.com. An Athlon 1.3ghz chip runs about $40.

Re: [eug-lug]Useful resource for newbies and non-technical people

2003-12-10 Thread Bob Miller
Cory Petkovsek wrote: e.g. Programs for CD burning with GUI Windows: Nero, Roxio Easy CD Creator, ... Linux: 1) K3b. (KDE) 2) XCDRoast. 3) KOnCd. 4) Eclipt Roaster. 5) Gnome Toaster. 6) CD Bake Oven. 7) KreateCD. 8) SimpleCDR-X. 9)

Re: [eug-lug]Useful resource for newbies and non-technical people

2003-12-10 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 01:31:03PM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: Cory Petkovsek wrote: e.g. Programs for CD burning with GUI Windows: Nero, Roxio Easy CD Creator, ... Linux: 1) K3b. (KDE) 2) XCDRoast. 3) KOnCd. 4) Eclipt Roaster. 5) Gnome Toaster.

Re: [eug-lug]Miserable Failure

2003-12-10 Thread Ralph Zeller
Don't we have an activist list for stuff like this? On 12/10/03 02pm, Bob Miller wrote: For a good time... 1. Go to Google. http://www.google.com/ 2. Enter two words: miserable failure 3. Click I'm Feeling Lucky Sorry if you've already seen it...

Re: [eug-lug]Miserable Failure

2003-12-10 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 02:01:54PM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: For a good time... 1. Go to Google. http://www.google.com/ 2. Enter two words: miserable failure 3. Click I'm Feeling Lucky Sorry if you've already seen it... Those words to not appear on the page nor in the source.

Re: [eug-lug]Miserable Failure

2003-12-10 Thread Brad Davidson
You are correct. Have you looked at the Google cache? http://66.102.11.104/search?q=cache:GPN6xA7xUV8J:www.whitehouse.gov/president/gwbbio.html+%22miserable+failure%22hl=enie=UTF-8 At the top it says: These terms only appear in links pointing to this page: miserable failure Google's search

Re: [eug-lug]Miserable Failure

2003-12-10 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 02:40:52PM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 02:01:54PM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: For a good time... 1. Go to Google. http://www.google.com/ 2. Enter two words: miserable failure 3. Click I'm Feeling Lucky Sorry if you've

Re: [eug-lug]Miserable Failure

2003-12-10 Thread Larry Price
On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, at 02:40 PM, Cory Petkovsek wrote: Those words to not appear on the page nor in the source. Google says they cannot change their database records and ranking system. This is not cool. I'm glad that nutch.org is well under development. It's the result of a

Re: [eug-lug]Miserable Failure

2003-12-10 Thread Ironmike
On 10 Dec 2003 at 14:40, Cory Petkovsek wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 02:01:54PM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: For a good time... 1. Go to Google. http://www.google.com/ 2. Enter two words: miserable failure 3. Click I'm Feeling Lucky Sorry if you've already seen it... 1.

Re: [eug-lug]Wanted

2003-12-10 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 11:36:10AM -0800, Rob Hudson wrote: I thought it would be more, but you're right... I can get a lower end Athlon with motherboard and memory for about $150 at mwave.com. mwave warning, they have been caught at times selling refurb goods without marking them as such. I

Re: [eug-lug]SMT soldering

2003-12-10 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 11:43:47AM -0500, Jamie wrote: I do, but Im not there right now :( Well, I was kinda trying to avoid sending it somewhere.. As far as what they say, Id say they have things backwards. You almost never want a low power iron, you want a hot iron (but a very fine tip

Re: [eug-lug]Miserable Failure

2003-12-10 Thread john fleming
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:19:38 -0800, Larry Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, at 02:40 PM, Cory Petkovsek wrote: Those words to not appear on the page nor in the source. Google says they cannot change their database records and ranking system. This is not cool.

Re: [eug-lug]Miserable Failure

2003-12-10 Thread Bob Miller
john fleming wrote: How do we know that this isn't evidence that the web has reached an AI saturation point becuase of all the spider activity out there and has become not only sentient and self aware but is now trying to raise the conciousness level of it's creators up to the level where

Re: [eug-lug]SMT soldering

2003-12-10 Thread Jamie
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 08:20 pm, T. Joseph Carter wrote: : On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 11:43:47AM -0500, Jamie wrote: : I do, but Im not there right now :( : : Well, I was kinda trying to avoid sending it somewhere.. : : As far as what they say, Id say they have things backwards. You almost :

Re: [eug-lug] I am getting SP***M from this LIST!!!! See headers in message

2003-12-10 Thread darrenh41
Harald- Note your personal email addy is in the CC: line so you were sent this spam directly, rather than receiving via the list. I haven't seen this spam show up on the list so the moderators are doing a good job, as usual. Darren I hate to be cranky, but, guys See below: Excerpt

Re: [eug-lug]SMT soldering

2003-12-10 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 09:55:30PM -0500, Jamie wrote: : http://www.9thtee.com/tivomemory.htm thats some of the worst soldering ive seen ! (except when i was doing training...) I saw some stuff... some people just shouldnt be allowed to play with hot surfaces... Seriously though, it looks

Re: [eug-lug]Miserable Failure

2003-12-10 Thread Ben Barrett
Doesn't anyone use AskJeeves any more? Now *there* is some real AI. Ben On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:30:46 -0800 Bob Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | john fleming wrote: | | How do we know that this isn't evidence that the web has reached an | AI saturation point becuase of all the spider

Re: [eug-lug]SMT soldering

2003-12-10 Thread Linux Rocks !
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 10:27 pm, T. Joseph Carter wrote: : On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 09:55:30PM -0500, Jamie wrote: : : http://www.9thtee.com/tivomemory.htm : : thats some of the worst soldering ive seen ! (except when i was doing : training...) I saw some stuff... some people just

Re: [eug-lug] I am getting SP***M from this LIST!!!! See headers in message

2003-12-10 Thread Linux Rocks !
Hal, While I sympathize with getting spam, its not going through this list. Its possible that your email address was harvested via the web archive, but I see no evidence of that. Look at it this way, atleast it didnt say generic (implying that your cheap, and impotent!). Jamie

Re: [eug-lug] I am getting SP***M from this LIST!!!! See headers in message

2003-12-10 Thread Mr O
I'm fairly comfortable in saying that the spam is probably being pulled from archives or something on the net. I've seen as significant rise in spam as my name appears more on the web. Is there any way to reduce us all to users as opposed to full email addresses? Just searching for something like

Re: [eug-lug] I am getting SP***M - I apologize,...

2003-12-10 Thread Harald Sundt
...I am not certain why these things work the way they do, but if you say it ain't the List, then I retract my cracked and yellow parrot's beak of peak. H ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug

Re: [eug-lug] I am getting SP***M - I apologize,...

2003-12-10 Thread Linux Rocks !
Hal, If the spam you received had gone through the list, we all would have gotten it. I dont think that Ive seen that specific one, so I cant even say its anyway associated with the list. Ironicly, the email address I usually use on this list gets less spam than any other email

Re: [eug-lug]Experts Worried After Worm Hits Windows-Based ATMs

2003-12-09 Thread Linux Rocks !
On Tuesday 09 December 2003 01:37 am, Dirk Ouellette wrote: : http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNewsstoryID=395865 curious... so worms infect atm machines? how do they get in? I love this part (from the general marketting manager of the company, after installing firewall

Re: [eug-lug]The KNOPPIX spindle

2003-12-09 Thread Bob Miller
Larry Price wrote: We're out right now, I can burn a few, but havinng a stash on hand is a good thing, since I can then help people get started. I burned ten (10) tonight. I'm printing the labels now. -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting

RE: [eug-lug]journaling filesystems

2003-12-09 Thread borodimer
Rob, I have used both ext3 and reiser. In fact, I recently switched over to reiser from ext3 because I migrated to using LVM. Reiser really shines in the fact that you can resize it on the fly. With ext3 I would have had to unmount the partition to add (or remove) space from it. This usually

Re: [eug-lug]journaling filesystems

2003-12-09 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 09:36:24AM -0800, Rob Hudson wrote: The next time I install Linux on my desktop, I plan on using a journaled filesystem. If you all could indulge me, I'd like to hear about what journaled filesystem you're running and how it fares. I'm thinking about ext3 simply b/c

Re: [eug-lug]journaling filesystems

2003-12-09 Thread Bob Crandell
I use ext3 on the boot partition and XFS on the data drive. ext3 because to get back up and running in a worse case. XFS for data because it's faster and some think it's more reliable. ReiserFS and XFS are so close that it may not matter which you choose, especially if this is a workstation.

Re: [eug-lug]Servers and endtables

2003-12-09 Thread Ken Barber
On Tuesday 09 December 2003 11:17, Larry Price wrote: So, i was looking for projects for eug-lug and mentioned building office file servers for non-profits and lo and behold the city is passing on some of their old fileservers and they landed on me. Larry, Are any of those availabe for

Re: [eug-lug]journaling filesystems

2003-12-09 Thread Bob Miller
Cory Petkovsek wrote: As for xfs, I probably wouldn't use it on a critical production box for precisely the reason you stated. I thought about it for a non critical production box, specifically our mail filter and one of our mail servers. XFS is supposed to perform very well where there are

Re: [eug-lug]Servers and endtables

2003-12-09 Thread Bob Miller
Ken Barber wrote: Larry, Are any of those availabe for passing on to schools or community groups for use as LTSP servers? Sure. If you know of some worthy recipients, please send them our way. -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting

Re: [eug-lug]char-major-116

2003-12-09 Thread Rob Hudson
In my /lib/modules/modprobe.conf file I have: alias char-major-116 snd I never understood fully but is this a character device related to sound? -Rob On 20031209.2210, Bob Crandell said ... Hi, What does: Can't locate module char-major-116 Dec 9 14:05:56 mine last message repeated 3

Re: [eug-lug]char-major-116

2003-12-09 Thread Bob Crandell
That must have been it. The error hasn't happened since I added it to my modules.conf. Thanks Rob Hudson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: In my /lib/modules/modprobe.conf file I have: alias char-major-116 snd I never understood fully but is this a character device related to sound? -Rob On

Re: [eug-lug]journaling filesystems

2003-12-09 Thread Ben Barrett
I've been using ext3 since it was a default for redhat; and have used reiserfs before (but not in a while). Don't forget about JFS: http://www-124.ibm.com/developerworks/oss/jfs/ and BTW, anyone use CFS or TCFS? ciao, Ben PS - here is a relatively local review:

Re: [eug-lug]char-major-116

2003-12-09 Thread Bob Miller
Bob Crandell wrote: What does: Can't locate module char-major-116 Dec 9 14:05:56 mine last message repeated 3 times mean? It is in /var/log/syslog. Some application is trying to open a sound device, e.g., /dev/dsp or /dev/audio. There is no sound driver loaded, and there are no

Re: [eug-lug]char-major-116

2003-12-09 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 10:31:58PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: That must have been it. The error hasn't happened since I added it to my modules.conf. Thanks Rob Hudson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: In my /lib/modules/modprobe.conf file I have: alias char-major-116 snd I never

Re: [eug-lug]Servers and endtables

2003-12-09 Thread Larry Price
They are HP Netservers with Pentium processors, I haven't yet had a chance to fire them up and scope them out but they do have SCSI cards and hot swappable disk arrays. Two of them are big huge monsters with built in casters and redundant fans will probably not smoke test them 'til thursday PM.

Re: [eug-lug]char-major-116

2003-12-09 Thread Neil Parker
Jacob Meuser wrote, I think char-major-116 in linux means 'anything sound related', anything with device major # 116. Almost, but not quite...it's really anything ALSA-related. There's also char-major-14, which is the OSS sound modules (and probably ALSA's OSS emulation too). -

Re: [eug-lug]The KNOPPIX spindle

2003-12-08 Thread Larry Price
We're out right now, I can burn a few, but havinng a stash on hand is a good thing, since I can then help people get started. On Monday, December 8, 2003, at 04:57 PM, Bob Miller wrote: How many KNOPPIX CDs do we have on the spindle, Larry? Is it time to burn some more? -- Bob Miller

Re: [eug-lug]Linus' Latest on Darl....

2003-12-07 Thread Ben Barrett
And yea, behold the /.-provided top 10 Linus quotes on the SCO blow: http://www.linuxworld.com/story/38138.htm Dennis' offering is listed as #3; my favorite is this, #5: Quite frankly, I found it mostly interesting in a Jerry Springer kind of way. White trash battling it out in public, throwing

Re: [eug-lug]renaming

2003-12-05 Thread John Sechrest
I would end up doing a for loop something like this: foreach i ( *mp3) mv $i section$i echo $i end But you must have something else in mind. Dirk Ouellette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: % noartist]# ls notitle % _10.mp3 _13.mp3 _16.mp3 _19.mp3 _22.mp3 _25.mp3 _28.mp3 _3.mp3 %

Re: [eug-lug]renaming

2003-12-05 Thread Rob Hudson
There is a perl rename script that allows you to do something like: # ren 's/^_/section/' *.mp3 I keep it in my bin directory. You can name it 'ren', or 'rename', or whatever. I'll attach it. -Rob What is the #rename command to rename all of these files with section_*.mp3, [as in

Re: [eug-lug]Another note on the struggle against SPAM

2003-12-05 Thread Edward Craig
One thing can be said for CAN-SPAM, Bernie Tauzin's minions, one named Ron Wyden, for instance, have provided their opponents with one more useful issue. -- Ed Craig[EMAIL PROTECTED] Taxi (I need an income) GNU/Linux (I can afford a Free OS) Think this

Re: [eug-lug]renaming

2003-12-05 Thread Bob Miller
Dirk Ouellette wrote: noartist]# ls notitle _10.mp3 _13.mp3 _16.mp3 _19.mp3 _22.mp3 _25.mp3 _28.mp3 _3.mp3 _6.mp3 _9.mp3 _11.mp3 _14.mp3 _17.mp3 _20.mp3 _23.mp3 _26.mp3 _29.mp3 _4.mp3 _7.mp3 track00.mp3 _12.mp3 _15.mp3 _18.mp3 _21.mp3 _24.mp3 _27.mp3 _2.mp3 _5.mp3

Re: [eug-lug]renaming

2003-12-05 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 10:08:20AM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: Dirk Ouellette wrote: noartist]# ls notitle _10.mp3 _13.mp3 _16.mp3 _19.mp3 _22.mp3 _25.mp3 _28.mp3 _3.mp3 _6.mp3 _9.mp3 _11.mp3 _14.mp3 _17.mp3 _20.mp3 _23.mp3 _26.mp3 _29.mp3 _4.mp3 _7.mp3 track00.mp3

Re: [eug-lug]renaming

2003-12-05 Thread Ben Barrett
which rename|xargs file would be an easy way to tell which you have, BTW... cheers, Ben On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:32:23 -0800 Cory Petkovsek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 10:08:20AM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: | Dirk Ouellette wrote: | |noartist]# ls notitle |

Re: [eug-lug]FW: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-04 Thread Ken Barber
On Wednesday 03 December 2003 17:37, Cory Petkovsek wrote: This isn't necessarily sloppy work. Have you looked at The Coroner's Toolkit[1] by Wietse Venema (author of postfix) and Dan Farmer? Considering who Hal is (SANS faculty), this is somewhat of an amusing question! Sorta like asking

Re: [eug-lug]FW: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-04 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 11:30:48PM -0800, Ken Barber wrote: Sorta like asking a PhD in psychology if he's ever looked at the DSM3 It's quite probable that a PhD in Psychology may never have seen the DSM3. The DSM4 has been the standard for awhile now. The differences between the two are

Re: [eug-lug]FW: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-04 Thread John Sechrest
Since hal is travelling, I will answer for him Hal decided that he liked the NW better than the bay area and is in the process of moving up into his new house in Eugene. So Hal is now a Eugene community member and is starting to reach out into the different geek like groups. Ken Barber

Re: [eug-lug]FW: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-04 Thread Hal Pomeranz
Hal decided that he liked the NW better than the bay area and is in the process of moving up into his new house in Eugene. So Hal is now a Eugene community member and is starting to reach out into the different geek like groups. Oh darn, John ruined my surprise. :-) Yes, though my current

Re: [eug-lug]FW: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-03 Thread Bob Miller
Cory Petkovsek wrote: The Debian Projecthttp://www.debian.org/ Debian Investigation Report [EMAIL PROTECTED] December 2nd, 2003

Re: [eug-lug]FW: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-03 Thread Hal Pomeranz
Anyway, I wanted to point out that hundreds of sites are broken into every day around the world, but very few are so scrupulously public about letting their customers know what happened, how it was cleaned up, and what's being done to keep it from happening again. Only a hardcore open source

Re: [eug-lug]FW: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-03 Thread Bob Miller
Hal Pomeranz wrote: The only thing that worries me about the write up is the fact that a sniffed password was used to break into several machines. I have to ask why they're not using SSH for all communications to/from these boxes and why they're not using something better than re-usable

Re: [eug-lug]FW: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-03 Thread Ben Barrett
It came to my attention, after reviewing the Debian report, that there are many mail systems out there, which use userland accounts for POP mail (not secure, but plaintext) that also have SSH logins enabled. I was guessing that this might've been how they got in with a sniffed password. I don't

Re: [eug-lug]FW: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-03 Thread Hal Pomeranz
I believe they are using ssh, and the password was sniffed by a keystroke sniffer on a developer's machine. As for something better than reusable passwords, what would you recommend? Most developers never get within a thousand miles of the servers, so anything that requires physical access

Re: [eug-lug]FW: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-03 Thread Hal Pomeranz
It came to my attention, after reviewing the Debian report, that there are many mail systems out there, which use userland accounts for POP mail (not secure, but plaintext) that also have SSH logins enabled. I was guessing that this might've been how they got in with a sniffed password. Yes,

Re: [eug-lug]FW: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-03 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 11:47:54AM -0800, Hal Pomeranz wrote: The only thing that worries me about the write up is the fact that a sniffed password was used to break into several machines. I have to ask why they're not using SSH for all communications to/from these boxes and why they're not

Re: [eug-lug]FW: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-03 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:34:23PM -0800, Ben Barrett wrote: It came to my attention, after reviewing the Debian report, that there are many mail systems out there, which use userland accounts for POP mail (not secure, but plaintext) that also have SSH logins enabled. I was guessing that this

Re: [eug-lug]make -d s foo

2003-12-02 Thread beaker
From: Larry Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [eug-lug]make -d s foo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone know of a good resource to help decode the intricacies of make (BSD make in this case although gmake _should_ be bug compatible) specifically the default suffix and filename expansion

Re: [eug-lug]make -d s foo

2003-12-02 Thread Brad Davidson
On Linux, try 'info make', it appears to have what you're looking for. Lots of documentation is moving over from man to info, although I personally prefer the linear structure of man pages. -Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take a look* in /usr/share/doc/psd/ . Chapter 12 covers BSD 'make'. My

Re: [eug-lug]SSI and Apache

2003-12-02 Thread Jamie
I think I had trouble with include file, however include virtual worked: !--#include virtual=header.txt-- also, make sure the file calling it is .shtml, not .html. Jamie On Tuesday 02 December 2003 11:12 am, Bob Crandell wrote: : Hi, : : One of my clients is trying to use: : !--#include

RE: [eug-lug]SSI and Apache

2003-12-02 Thread Grigsby, Garl
Try using virtual instead: -Original Message- From: Bob Crandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:12 AM To: Eugene Linux Users Group Subject: [eug-lug]SSI and Apache Hi, One of my clients is trying to use: !--#include file=header.txt-- to

RE: [eug-lug]SSI and Apache

2003-12-02 Thread Grigsby, Garl
Now let me finish my thought... Try using virtual instead: !--#include virtual=/include/nav_main.htm -- Using file requires that the file be in the same directory as the referencing file. I have also had other random problems using file. Also make sure that the file has a '.shtml'

RE: [eug-lug]SSI and Apache

2003-12-02 Thread Bob Crandell
Thanks guys. This is working now. Grigsby, Garl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Now let me finish my thought... Try using virtual instead: !--#include virtual=/include/nav_main.htm -- Using file requires that the file be in the same directory as the referencing file. I have also had other random

Re: [eug-lug]Debian compromise solved.

2003-12-02 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 20:45:09 -0800, T. Joseph Carter wrote: On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 01:44:21PM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote: Beat you to it. However read the additional info link I posted. The patch is only in the 2.4.23 kernel. Do you keep right up with the bleeding edge kernels?

Re: [eug-lug]Debian compromise solved.

2003-12-02 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 10:35:34AM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote: Beat you to it. However read the additional info link I posted. The patch is only in the 2.4.23 kernel. Do you keep right up with the bleeding edge kernels? The debian servers were on 2.4.21 and 22. In the stable

Re: [eug-lug]Rappel pour les abonnements aux listes sur udius.com

2003-12-01 Thread Edward Craig
This was moderated to post because I have just enough idea what it's saying to wonder if I need to know what its saying. -- Ed Craig[EMAIL PROTECTED] Taxi (I need an income) GNU/Linux (I can afford a Free OS) Think this through with me, let me know your

Re: [eug-lug]Rappel pour les abonnements aux listes sur udius.com

2003-12-01 Thread Larry Price
it's the french version of the the mailman list membership reminder I'm not sure why eug-lug would have been subscribed to it... Having had a look at the site http://www.i3tv.com/ which is one of those linked from udius.com; I would guess that this is produced by an incompetent french spammer.

Re: [eug-lug]rm -rf

2003-12-01 Thread Brad Davidson
I might also suggest a 'man find'. What you probably wanted is this: find / -iname *mozilla* -print which means: start at the root, find (ignoring case) anything with Mozilla in it, and print the matching filename to stdout. running updatedb (or locate.updatedb, or locate -d, etc) and then

RE: [eug-lug]system rescue CD

2003-12-01 Thread Grigsby, Garl
Knoppix includes this utility as well. I have used it once with good results. Garl -Original Message- From: Rob Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:04 AM To: EUGLUG Subject: [eug-lug]system rescue CD It used to be that if you wanted to resize

Re: [eug-lug]system rescue CD

2003-12-01 Thread Rob Hudson
On 20031201.1419, Grigsby, Garl said ... Knoppix includes this utility as well. I have used it once with good results. Yes, I learned this recently as well. Someone pointed out that Knoppix has a slightly older version while the rescue CD keeps more current since the same person is a

Re: [eug-lug]Debian compromise solved.

2003-12-01 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 01:38:01PM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: This Debian Security Advisory finishes the story. Let this be a warning to us all to keep all our software fully up to date. I don't want to read in the news about any exploited Linux boxes in Eugene. Beat you to it. However read

Re: [eug-lug]Debian compromise solved.

2003-12-01 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 01:44:21PM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote: This Debian Security Advisory finishes the story. Let this be a warning to us all to keep all our software fully up to date. I don't want to read in the news about any exploited Linux boxes in Eugene. Beat you to it.

Re: [eug-lug]make -d s foo

2003-12-01 Thread Bob Miller
Larry Price wrote: Does anyone know of a good resource to help decode the intricacies of make (BSD make in this case although gmake _should_ be bug compatible) specifically the default suffix and filename expansion rules which do not seem to be listed in the man page . Ever since 7th Edition

Re: [eug-lug]make -d s foo

2003-12-01 Thread Neil Parker
Larry Price wrote, Does anyone know of a good resource to help decode the intricacies of make (BSD make in this case although gmake _should_ be bug compatible) specifically the default suffix and filename expansion rules which do not seem to be listed in the man page . so far I've found

Re: [eug-lug]overclocked problem?

2003-11-30 Thread Bob Miller
Mr O wrote: Actually the 3.06 is a 533FSB. What, that old thing! You've had that motherboard since what, April? March, even? I didn't know you'd taken up paleontology... (-: -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com

Re: [eug-lug]overclocked problem?

2003-11-30 Thread Mr O
I bought the 3.06 for the greater overclocking potential ;) In regards to lmbench, I've tried 2 and 3 and get these results when I try to run it: #bash-2.05b$ make results see #cd src make results #make[1]: Entering directory `/downloads/lmbench-2.0.4/src' #make[2]: Entering directory

Re: [eug-lug]overclocked problem?

2003-11-30 Thread Bob Miller
Mr O wrote: I bought the 3.06 for the greater overclocking potential ;) In regards to lmbench, I've tried 2 and 3 and get these results when I try to run it: #bash-2.05b$ make results see #cd src make results #make[1]: Entering directory `/downloads/lmbench-2.0.4/src' #make[2]: Entering

Re: [eug-lug]Preferred apps

2003-11-30 Thread Linux Rocks !
Dirk, you may need the full path to mozilla (use locate mozilla if your unsure of the ful path). Jamie On Sunday 30 November 2003 12:47 pm, Dirk Ouellette wrote: : I'm using mozilla %r in my RH 9 Preferred Apps for browser so Mozilla : will pick up the url clicks from within Evolution,

Re: [eug-lug]Preferred apps

2003-11-30 Thread Mr O
$ gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/unknown Try googling it. I searched for default brower evolution and came up with a handful or results. __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree

Re: [eug-lug]rm -rf

2003-11-30 Thread jgw
I can find all of the places that I rm -rf's it from. Does locate just keep those locations in memory? No, in a database. man locate wait a day or regenerate the database manually. /jgw ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [eug-lug]rm -rf

2003-11-30 Thread Mr O
Even easier, just type 'updatedb'. Works well for when you install something too and can't seem to find it ;) Mr O. --- jgw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can find all of the places that I rm -rf's it from. Does locate just keep those locations in memory? No, in a database. man locate

Re: [eug-lug]overclocked problem?

2003-11-29 Thread Larry Price
On Saturday, November 29, 2003, at 08:25 PM, Mr O wrote: Anyone else overclock at all? What kind of problems? My machine is super stable at 3495Mhz but pushing it over that causes programs to just die whenever they want. Let me get this straight, you're talking a stock 2.4Ghz CPU and you are

Re: [eug-lug]overclocked problem?

2003-11-29 Thread Mr O
Actually it's been upgraded. 3.06Ghz stock. CPU and RAM are still working on a 1:1 ratio since my RAM can attain considerably higher frequencies than my CPU can. --- Larry Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday, November 29, 2003, at 08:25 PM, Mr O wrote: Anyone else overclock at

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