Il giorno 03/feb/2014, alle ore 12:50, John Pinner ha
scritto:
> Hello,
>
> On 3 February 2014 02:43, Giovanni Bajo wrote:
>>
>> Il giorno 01/feb/2014, alle ore 12:59, Michael ha
>> scritto:
>>
>> 400?
>>
>> Christ on a bike, europython used to be affordable. Florence was
>> ridiculously
Hello,
On 3 February 2014 02:43, Giovanni Bajo wrote:
>
> Il giorno 01/feb/2014, alle ore 12:59, Michael ha
> scritto:
>
> 400?
>
> Christ on a bike, europython used to be affordable. Florence was
> ridiculously expensive (when you factor everything in).
>
>
> A 5-days conference with tickets st
Il giorno 03/feb/2014, alle ore 04:05, Michael ha scritto:
> You might not call it ridiculously expensive. For me it was/is and I'm sorry
> that you don't like that, and if you want to go back and forth on this, I'll
> unsubscribe from the list (I probably should given it's now out my price
>
You might not call it ridiculously expensive. For me it was/is and I'm
sorry that you don't like that, and if you want to go back and forth on
this, I'll unsubscribe from the list (I probably should given it's now out
my price range actually). You clearly have a higher disposable income than
me - w
Il giorno 01/feb/2014, alle ore 12:59, Michael ha scritto:
> 400?
>
> Christ on a bike, europython used to be affordable. Florence was
> ridiculously expensive (when you factor everything in).
A 5-days conference with tickets starting at €100 for students and €190 for an
individual ticket, in
Hello,
On 2 February 2014 19:53, Stephan Diehl wrote:
> Hi John,
> On 02/01/2014 10:52 PM, John Pinner wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
> [...]
>
>> If I can be assured of getting Maisels Weisbier mit Hefe, and
>> Sclenkerla Rauchbier in Berlin near the conference venue, I'll
>> consider the 2014 EuroPytho
Hi John,
On 02/01/2014 10:52 PM, John Pinner wrote:
Hello,
[...]
If I can be assured of getting Maisels Weisbier mit Hefe, and
Sclenkerla Rauchbier in Berlin near the conference venue, I'll
consider the 2014 EuroPython fees reasonable ;-)
that shouldn't be the least of your problems.
Your Ra
Hi,
On 2. Feb2014, at 17:49, John Pinner wrote:
>
> Yes. And I have no knowledge nor experience of the EPS treating its
> volunteers badly, which I think was what started this thread : a
> slightly emotional post from Christian based not on first-hand
> experience, but on hearsay.
My post was t
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John Pinner wrote:
>> Well, without accusing any organisation of anything, I think the
>> so-called community as a whole should re-evaluate how it treats
>> people who offer their time and resources to benefit everyone
>> else.
>
> Yes. And I have no
Hello Paul,
On 2 February 2014 14:24, Paul Boddie wrote:
> On Sunday 2. February 2014 02.09.04 Hynek Schlawack wrote:
>> >> It’s quite the contrary: the current organizers were criticized for
>> >> their current work they do and I tried to explain that romanticism about
>> >> a conference in 2007
I'm not criticising the current organisers.
FWIW, my original reply didn't go to you either.
Your original reply went to the list. When you presumably did reply
directly
to me at one point, I got two separate messages: one to me and one via
the
list. What was that all about? Do we have to wai
On Sunday 2. February 2014 02.09.04 Hynek Schlawack wrote:
> >> It’s quite the contrary: the current organizers were criticized for
> >> their current work they do and I tried to explain that romanticism about
> >> a conference in 2007 isn’t helping, that it’s great to have at least
> >> one big Eu
>> It’s quite the contrary: the current organizers were criticized for
>> their current work they do and I tried to explain that romanticism about
>> a conference in 2007 isn’t helping, that it’s great to have at least
>> one big European Python conference, they are hard to do, and to the end:
>>
On Sunday 2. February 2014 00.39.15 Hynek Schlawack wrote:
>
> It’s quite the contrary: the current organizers were criticized for
> their current work they do and I tried to explain that romanticism about
> a conference in 2007 isn’t helping, that it’s great to have at least
> one big European Py
No, I was just saying that you seem to be exactly the kind of person
the
EuroPython Society is looking for to organise the kind of large-scale
event
that you'd like to see in Europe that is neither "regional" nor
"sciency".
The classic Free Software mantra : if you don't like it, fix it, less
p
Hello,
On 1 February 2014 22:43, Paul Boddie wrote:
> On Saturday 1. February 2014 21.24.02 Hynek Schlawack wrote:
>> On 1 Feb 2014, at 20:36, Paul Boddie wrote:
>> It certainly is for a particular conference (EP in this case). Nobody
>> is arguing that *every* conference should aspire to gro
On Saturday 1. February 2014 21.24.02 Hynek Schlawack wrote:
> On 1 Feb 2014, at 20:36, Paul Boddie wrote:
> >>> I'd actually rather cap the number of attendees than raise prices.
> >>
> >> I find this an unfortunate line of though; EuroPython is the *only*
> >> explicitly European Python conferen
Hello,
On 1 February 2014 17:10, Achim Herwig wrote:
> Am Samstag, 1. Februar 2014, 17:42:45 schrieb Paul Boddie:
>> On Saturday 1. February 2014 17.10.35 Andreas Jung wrote:
>> > I think there is no real way out of there - expect all 1000 attendees in
>> > a
>> > huge barn and tell them to brin
On Saturday 1. February 2014 20.38.07 Danilo wrote:
>
> Am Sa, 1. Feb 2014, um 20:36, schrieb Paul Boddie:
> > There are, of course, big European community
> > conferences that seem to manage this, and maybe
> > their expertise can be drawn upon to
> > do the same for a Python-specific event.
>
>
On 1 Feb 2014, at 20:36, Paul Boddie wrote:
I'd actually rather cap the number of attendees than raise prices.
I find this an unfortunate line of though; EuroPython is the *only*
explicitly European Python conference.
That just isn't true. Take a look at http://www.pycon.org/ to see
several
E
Hi all
Am Sa, 1. Feb 2014, um 20:36, schrieb Paul Boddie:
> There are, of course, big European community
> conferences that seem to manage this, and maybe
> their expertise can be drawn upon to
> do the same for a Python-specific event.
The 30th Chaos Communication Congress in Hamburg
(https://en
On Saturday 1. February 2014 19.15.54 Hynek Schlawack wrote:
> > I'd actually rather cap the number of attendees than raise prices.
>
> I find this an unfortunate line of though; EuroPython is the *only*
> explicitly European Python conference.
That just isn't true. Take a look at http://www.pyco
I'd actually rather cap the number of attendees than raise prices.
I find this an unfortunate line of though; EuroPython is the *only*
explicitly European Python conference. Keeping it artificially small
just makes it either less interesting or simply elitist.
EP is one of the cheapest confe
Am Samstag, 1. Februar 2014, 17:42:45 schrieb Paul Boddie:
> On Saturday 1. February 2014 17.10.35 Andreas Jung wrote:
> > I think there is no real way out of there - expect all 1000 attendees in
> > a
> > huge barn and tell them to bring their own beer and burgers..well, perhaps
> > an option :-)
I'd actually rather cap the number of attendees than raise prices.
I think the most interesting people to meet at the conferences in general have
a limited budget. The come to the conference on their own tab to tell the
world about the cool things they are doing in their spare time.
We used to
I agree completely with Michael, I haven't been able to attend since
the Birmingham conferences either due to the expense involved.
David
On 1 February 2014 11:59, Michael wrote:
> 400?
>
> Christ on a bike, europython used to be affordable. Florence was
> ridiculously expensive (when you facto
On Saturday 1. February 2014 17.10.35 Andreas Jung wrote:
> I think there is no real way out of there - expect all 1000 attendees in a
> huge barn and tell them to bring their own beer and burgers..well, perhaps
> an option :-)
Switch out the burgers with sausages and I was led to believe that th
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David Gillies wrote:
> I agree completely with Michael, I haven't been able to attend since
> the Birmingham conferences either due to the expense involved.
I think it is the common process of conferences become more expensive as
soon as they becom
Hello All,
On 1 February 2014 11:59, Michael wrote:
> 400?
>
> Christ on a bike, europython used to be affordable. Florence was
> ridiculously expensive (when you factor everything in).
>
> Unless when you say 'all inclusive' you mean 'including accommodation'.
>
> I presume the increased costs a
400?
Christ on a bike, europython used to be affordable. Florence was
ridiculously expensive (when you factor everything in).
Unless when you say 'all inclusive' you mean 'including accommodation'.
I presume the increased costs are at least in part due to the slow shift
towards peak holiday seas
I have to correct the 2013 prices: 165/315/370.
Still the prices of the EP 2014 are in a range that make this conference
affordable and reasonably priced. Comparable conferences - often run only for
two or three day - are more expensive.
Regards
Andreas Jung
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Sorry for being brief - sent
Hello Jacob :-)
I'm currently part of the web team for the EP2014 and have attended
EuroPython conferences for the last 4 years. I also helped on the web
team for the last couple of PyCon.DE conferences.
Thank you for these details from the EPS' point of view. They are much
appreciated :-) T
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Jacob Hallén wrote:
>
> In the Call for Participation that was the basis for the selection of
> a new site for Europython, there was a requirement for the cost of
> attendance. It turns out that the promised figures from the Berlin
> team can't be
I am writing this from the sidelines, since I am not actively participating in
the EPS board work, though I am formally treasurer for the EPS. This has given
me access to what is going on, but I don't have a deep emotional involvement
in the ongoing discussions and negotiations. I'm still writin
On Friday 31. January 2014 09.20.28 Christian Theune wrote:
>
> I’m close friends with some of the EP 2014 organizers. Seeing them in such
> pain an despair caused by the EPS makes me feel so sad for our community.
>
> Many of the current organizers have a lot of experience in organizing a
> conf
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> From: EuroPython [mailto:europython-bounces+jasper.paterson=
> welovesalt@python.org] On Behalf Of Dinu Gherman
> Sent: 31 January 2014 10:10
> To: M.-A. Lemburg
> Cc: EuroPython Mailing List; europython-improve
> Subject: Re: [EuroPython] Work on Call for
. Lemburg
Cc: EuroPython Mailing List; europython-improve
Subject: Re: [EuroPython] Work on Call for Participation for EuroPython 2015
has started
Hi Marc-André,
this call comes as a little surprise to me. To my knowledge after EuroPython
2013 in Florence there was a call for proposals for 2014 and
Hi Dinu,
as we mentioned in the email: we've *started work* on the call for
participation. We'll have more information available when we announce
the call :-)
A lot of work still needs to be done, since we're aiming for a new
model of organizing EuroPython conferences. Please have some
patience.
I wrote:
> PS: BTW, I'm making a wild guess here, but the EuroPython list signature just
> maybe should rather read "21th-27th July" instead of "21th27th July".
And to please the really nitpicking: "21st-27th July" would be even better.
Regards,
Dinu
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Hi Marc-André,
this call comes as a little surprise to me. To my knowledge after EuroPython
2013 in Florence there was a call for proposals for 2014 and 2015, following a
rule saying that it would be wise to reuse locally accumulated knowledge at
least once. Berlin volunteered to organized thes
Hi,
On 31. Jan2014, at 09:14, Markus Zapke-Gründemann wrote:
> Christian Theune schrieb:
>> not being part of the organizing team of EP 2014 but noticing how the
>> EuroPython society works:
>>
>> I’d rather recommend everyone who thinks about organizing anything to stay
>> miles away from the
Christian Theune schrieb:
> not being part of the organizing team of EP 2014 but noticing how the
> EuroPython society works:
>
> I’d rather recommend everyone who thinks about organizing anything to stay
> miles away from the EPS for your own sanity.
>
> If anyone thinks about participating I’d
Hi,
not being part of the organizing team of EP 2014 but noticing how the
EuroPython society works:
I’d rather recommend everyone who thinks about organizing anything to stay
miles away from the EPS for your own sanity.
If anyone thinks about participating I’d recommend contacting the organizi
[Please help spread the word by forwarding to other relevant mailing lists,
user groups, etc.; thanks :-)]
The EuroPython Society (EPS) has started work on preparing the
Call for Participation (CFP) for organizing the EuroPython 2015
conference:
http://www.europython-society.org/
For 2015,
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