Re: [EuroPython] Diversity of attendees

2014-04-17 Thread Javier Gonel
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Filip Kłębczyk fklebc...@gmail.com wrote: W dniu 16.04.2014 16:16, Aistė Kesminaitė-Jankauskienė pisze: Filip, what are you trying to achieve? I see a lot of negativity and pointing fingers. My email clearly said - in the begining. What is your point with

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-17 Thread Carina.Haupt
Hi, I think, and here read, that there are a lot of different opinions to the perfect conference length and structure and I can follow all your arguments. I do not want to state my opinion here too, but point out that a streaming and recoding of nearly all talks is planned. This allows

Re: [EuroPython] Diversity of attendees

2014-04-17 Thread Carina.Haupt
Hi, even if I respond to an older mail, I wanted to address some questions here. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: EuroPython [mailto:europython- bounces+carina.haupt=dlr...@python.org] Im Auftrag von Filip Klebczyk Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. April 2014 11:56 An: europython lists

Re: [EuroPython] Incorrect charset for the Europython mailing list

2014-04-17 Thread Veit Schiele
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Laura, the administrators of the list do not have access to the file system. Therefore, we are not able to change the encoding of the list. After all, we have removed the m-dashes from the footer. Kind regards, Veit Am 16.04.14 02:16, schrieb

Re: [EuroPython] Incorrect charset for the Europython mailing list

2014-04-17 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:24:16 +0200, Veit Schiele writes: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Laura, the administrators of the list do not have access to the file system. Therefore, we are not able to change the encoding of the list. After all, we have removed the

Re: [EuroPython] Incorrect charset for the Europython mailing list

2014-04-17 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 17.04.2014 11:51, Laura Creighton wrote: I didn't realise that making changes to the charset encoding wasn't something that you did from inside mailman. Sorry about that. I will see about getting the encoding fixed on python.org then, if that is where the fix needs to be applied. The

Re: [EuroPython] Diversity of attendees

2014-04-17 Thread Filip Kłębczyk
W dniu 16.04.2014 21:39, Andreas Jung pisze: Am 16.04.2014 um 09:52 schrieb Filip Kłębczyk fklebc...@gmail.com: W dniu 16.04.2014 14:43, Andreas Jung pisze: The selection process has been always open afaik. Then where are all the proposals shown that were sent for 2014 and 2015 hosting?

Re: [EuroPython] Diversity of attendees

2014-04-17 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 17.04.2014 07:18, Steve Barnes wrote: On 16/04/14 18:22, Troy Howard wrote: I recently organized a conference in Budapest (Write The Docs EU). I can confirm that it's a great city to hold a conference in. Cheap lodging/food, lots of fun local culture outside of the conference, and easy

Re: [EuroPython] Diversity of attendees

2014-04-17 Thread Filip Kłębczyk
W dniu 17.04.2014 10:55, carina.ha...@dlr.de pisze: I hope I therewith could clarify that we already address the problem and do not start a big discussion about financial aid. ;) I think we all can agree that financial aid is a positive tool to make more diverse conference in terms of wealth

Re: [EuroPython] Diversity of attendees

2014-04-17 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Filip, all this is documented on the CFP pages for the years 2011, 2013 and 2014: http://www.europython-society.org/cfp Also: Please stop bringing up or implying false accusations. You are doing yourself and everyone on this mailing list a disservice. FWIW: As I've written in a separate email

Re: [EuroPython] Incorrect charset for the Europython mailing list

2014-04-17 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:32:34PM +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: On 17.04.2014 11:51, Laura Creighton wrote: I didn't realise that making changes to the charset encoding wasn't something that you did from inside mailman. Sorry about that. I will see about getting the encoding fixed on

Re: [EuroPython] Diversity of attendees

2014-04-17 Thread John Pinner
Filip, On 17 April 2014 12:39, Filip Kłębczyk fklebc...@gmail.com wrote: W dniu 17.04.2014 10:55, carina.ha...@dlr.de pisze: snips I see financial aid as a similar method (to make attendees more diverse in terms of their wealth status or geographical penalty). But I think the better

Re: [EuroPython] Diversity of attendees

2014-04-17 Thread Filip Kłębczyk
W dniu 17.04.2014 13:41, M.-A. Lemburg pisze: Filip, all this is documented on the CFP pages for the years 2011, 2013 and 2014: http://www.europython-society.org/cfp Yes, I've wrote in one of previous mails that this is now public, where was it year ago in July? Also: Please stop

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-17 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey Carina, On 04/17/2014 10:24 AM, carina.ha...@dlr.de wrote: This definitely it not a perfect compensation for attending a talk live, but it might help some of you to consider this. I personally use this a lot on conferences which offer streaming and/or recordings. Okay, I now I gave my two

Re: [EuroPython] Incorrect charset for the Europython mailing list

2014-04-17 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Thu, 17 Apr 2014 15:02:25 +0300, Marius Gedminas writes: On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:32:34PM +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: On 17.04.2014 11:51, Laura Creighton wrote: I didn't realise that making changes to the charset encoding wasn't something that you did from inside

Re: [EuroPython] Diversity of attendees

2014-04-17 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, On 04/17/2014 01:24 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: In short, we'll have the EPS run the conference, with international work groups doing the work that can be done remotely and the local team providing on-site support. This will resolve the problem of losing institutional knowledge every time we

Re: [EuroPython] Diversity of attendees

2014-04-17 Thread Filip Kłębczyk
W dniu 17.04.2014 13:59, M.-A. Lemburg pisze: Unfortunately, we did not have much choice in recent selections, with only a single submitted proposal. It would be good to tell a bit more what caused that others didn't submit proposals. Well if someone is interested how things looked here is

Re: [EuroPython] Diversity of attendees

2014-04-17 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 17.04.2014 14:29, Filip Kłębczyk wrote: W dniu 17.04.2014 13:41, M.-A. Lemburg pisze: Filip, all this is documented on the CFP pages for the years 2011, 2013 and 2014: http://www.europython-society.org/cfp Yes, I've wrote in one of previous mails that this is now public, where was

Re: [EuroPython] Diversity of attendees

2014-04-17 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 17.04.2014 14:36, Martijn Faassen wrote: Hey, On 04/17/2014 01:24 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: In short, we'll have the EPS run the conference, with international work groups doing the work that can be done remotely and the local team providing on-site support. This will resolve the problem

Re: [EuroPython] Diversity of attendees

2014-04-17 Thread Dinu Gherman
Hi all, I appreciate the recent vivid discussions on this list around important topics like diversity. Many interesting opinions have been given about how to improve the EuroPython conference experience to an even wider target group and make it more balanced along multiple vectors. Some seemed

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-17 Thread Giovanni Bajo
Il giorno 17/apr/2014, alle ore 14:29, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com ha scritto: Hey Carina, On 04/17/2014 10:24 AM, carina.ha...@dlr.de wrote: This definitely it not a perfect compensation for attending a talk live, but it might help some of you to consider this. I personally

Re: [EuroPython] conference length

2014-04-17 Thread Roberto Polli
There is people that organized his (family) holiday around EP. Moving across Europe for just 3 days in the middle of July will reduce the appeal of tech-tourism and make things like partner-program less effective. My 2¢. Peace, R. -- Roberto Polli Community Manager Babel - a business unit of

Re: [EuroPython] Diversity of attendees

2014-04-17 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 17.04.2014 14:04, John Pinner wrote: Filip, On 17 April 2014 12:39, Filip Kłębczyk fklebc...@gmail.com wrote: W dniu 17.04.2014 10:55, carina.ha...@dlr.de pisze: snips I see financial aid as a similar method (to make attendees more diverse in terms of their wealth status or