Re: [EVDL] Hybrid

2014-07-22 Thread Tom Mandera via EV
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Re: [EVDL] How crazy am I?

2014-07-22 Thread Mike Nickerson via EV
David, I can corroborate your numbers on pack sizing. You pretty much summed up my conversion. I have 45 cells of ThunderSky 100Ah cells in a Honda del Sol for a nominal 144V pack and 13 kWh. In that car, I have a 50 mile range (barely). When new, I drove it 46 miles without issues, but I

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BMWDaimler developing 3-Hour Wireless Inductive EVSE for i3 EV

2014-07-22 Thread Dennis Miles via EV
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[EVDL] EVLN: LG Chem's 200mi packs are on-their-way for 2016

2014-07-22 Thread brucedp5 via EV
'GM CEO sez a future 200mi GM EV will fight a ~$35k 200mi Tesla-3 EV' http://transportevolved.com/2014/07/21/lg-chem-200-mile-batteries-way-2016/ LG Chem: 200-Mile Batteries on Their Way for 2016 July 21, 2014 By Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield [images

[EVDL] EVLN: Son Crashes Dad’s Tesla-S EV

2014-07-22 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-model-s-accident-son-crashes-fathers-car-83969.html#comid26327 Tesla Model S Accident: Son Crashes Father’s Car by Andrei Tutu 16th July 2014 [image http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/tesla-model-s-accident-son-crashes-fathers-car-83969-7.jpg

Re: [EVDL] How crazy am I?

2014-07-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Another factor to consider is that while power capability varies by design, as a general rule, smaller cells are usually capable of lower power output. For example, the CALB 40ah cells I mentioned are rated for a maximum discharge of 2C (80 amps). At 144v, 80a is 11.5kW. Allowing for losses,

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Schaeffler sez 2speed-tranny improves EV-range/efficiency

2014-07-22 Thread Martin WINLOW via EV
It does tickle me seeing such a luminary engineering setup like Bosch making such a silly mistake after Tesla has 'been there, done that'. It may turn out well for them but it seems a bit arrogant when you consider how much a success Tesla has had after just 1/10 of the time all the big

Re: [EVDL] How crazy am I?

2014-07-22 Thread Tom Keenan via EV
The discharge rate of the cells should play into the calculations as well. If the cells have a 3C max rate, 45 90 ah cells could produce about 52 HP (270 amps max@144v), resulting in a somewhat underpowered vehicle. How much does exceeding the discharge rate reduce the life of the pack? Is

Re: [EVDL] How crazy am I?

2014-07-22 Thread Mike Nickerson via EV
I would consider my ThunderSky cells as 1C normal draw with bursts of 2C or maybe a little more. I have rarely seen 3C even in the best conditions. If they are cold, don't even expect 2C. They work OK, but they are not a high performance pack. Mike On July 22, 2014 2:20:42 AM MDT, EVDL

Re: [EVDL] How crazy am I?

2014-07-22 Thread Mike Nickerson via EV
I assumed people know, but guess I should specifically point out that ThunderSky is the previous name for the company now known as Winston. I don't know how much their chemistry varies between the two company names. My cells are more than 4 years old, so it is quite possible for new cells to

[EVDL] crazy ?

2014-07-22 Thread Electric Blue auto convertions via EV
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[EVDL] The classic VW Beetle goes electric

2014-07-22 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Hybrid

2014-07-22 Thread Roland via EV
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Re: [EVDL] How crazy am I?

2014-07-22 Thread Willie2 via EV
On 07/22/2014 08:29 AM, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote: I would consider my ThunderSky cells as 1C normal draw with bursts of 2C or maybe a little more. I have rarely seen 3C even in the best conditions. If they are cold, don't even expect 2C. With my ~2008 vintage TS-LFP260s, I can pull at

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid/Mustang

2014-07-22 Thread Dennis Miles via EV
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Re: [EVDL] crazy ?

2014-07-22 Thread Dennis Miles via EV
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Re: [EVDL] How crazy am I?

2014-07-22 Thread Ben Goren via EV
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Re: [EVDL] How crazy am I?

2014-07-22 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Tue Jul 22 10:24:59 PDT 2014 ev@lists.evdl.org said: How about CALB? The smallest one EVSource sells (that's not an endorsement, it's just one place I found offering them online) is 40ah. That's actually what I was using for my own back-of-the-envelope calculations, but from EVWest's site.

Re: [EVDL] How crazy am I?

2014-07-22 Thread Ben Goren via EV
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Re: [EVDL] How crazy am I?

2014-07-22 Thread Willie2 via EV
On 07/22/2014 12:33 PM, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: Have you thought about Leaf modules? That's what I'm using in my truck. http://hybridautocenter.com/HAC4/index.php?option=com_hikashopctrl=producttask=showcid=4name=new-11kw-h-battery-block-182v-60ahItemid=605 -- Try my What are the BMS

[EVDL] Design News - Battery-Electric Vehicles: It's a Question of Trickle-Down

2014-07-22 Thread Len Moskowitz via EV
www.designnews.com/author.asp?section_id=1366doc_id=274132cid=nl.dn14dfpPParams=ind_184,industry_auto,bid_318,aid_274132dfpLayout=blog Dhar, who was instrumental in the development of the battery for GM's groundbreaking EV1, believes that the price of a 30-kWh battery needs to hit $5,000. That

Re: [EVDL] How crazy am I?

2014-07-22 Thread Dennis Miles via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Design News - Battery-Electric Vehicles: It's a Question of Trickle-Down

2014-07-22 Thread via EV
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Re: [EVDL] How crazy am I?

2014-07-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 Jul 2014 at 10:24, Ben Goren via EV wrote: Wikipedia says curb weight is 2,445. I don't see this ending up at 3,500 after conversion...but I also like estimating pessimistically. I see that too. But that's probably for an early 170 six with 3-speed stick and no options. Remember, in