Re: [EVDL] ENERDEL Battery Experiences

2015-04-01 Thread Hoegberg via EV
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 14:00:00 + To: ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: Re: [EVDL] ENERDEL Battery Experiences From: ev@lists.evdl.org Hello Michael, Some companies do not pay a lot of attention to their website and rely on their marketing

[EVDL] EVLN: Unregulated China counterfeit Tesla-S EV

2015-04-01 Thread brucedp5 via EV
'Chinese EV, Aoxin Ibis, is a Tesla Model S look-alike' http://www.bidnessetc.com/36437-chinese-automaker-to-launch-tesla-motors-inc-lookalike-this-year/ Chinese Automaker To Launch Tesla Motors Inc Look-Alike This Year By: George Zack Mar 9, 2015 [image

[EVDL] EVLN: Tesla-X spied this week in Palo Alto, CA (v)

2015-04-01 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.drive.com.au/future-cars/new-cars-spied-this-week-20150326-1m87f8.html New cars spied this week March 26, 2015 - Dom Tripolone [image

[EVDL] EVLN: Wozniak sez Tesla pack-swap station @Harris Ranch Coalinga CA

2015-04-01 Thread brucedp5 via EV
'Now Tesla drivers are regulars @Harris Ranch I5 Coalinga CA' http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2015/03/26/california-ev-charge-site/70469066/ California EV charge site has drawing power Diana Marcum March 26, 2015 [image

Re: [EVDL] ENERDEL Battery Experiences

2015-04-01 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] ENERDEL Battery Experiences

2015-04-01 Thread Jeff Major via EV
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Re: [EVDL] ENERDEL Battery Experiences

2015-04-01 Thread Jeff Major via EV
On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 12:42 PM, Michael Ross michael.e.r...@gmail.com wrote: Jeff, I am not sure why performance at ambient temperatures should make anyone feel confident about a cell.  LFP for instance, starts to have serious difficulties at 104°F if it is fully charged. 

Re: [EVDL] ENERDEL Battery Experiences

2015-04-01 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (Was: ENERDEL Battery Experiences)

2015-04-01 Thread Paul Dove via EV
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[EVDL] article: World’s first 1 megawatt all-electric race car to compete at Pikes Peak

2015-04-01 Thread Paul Wujek via EV
It's April 1, so maybe this is true: http://www.electricautosport.com/2015/04/worlds-first-1-megawatt-all-electric-race-car-to-compete-at-pikes-peak/ -- *Paul Wujek* p...@rogers.com about http://goo.gl/3jnMdX ___ UNSUBSCRIBE:

Re: [EVDL] article: World’s first 1 megawatt all-electric race car to compete at Pikes Peak

2015-04-01 Thread Ben Goren via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (and Blowing them up!)

2015-04-01 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
From: Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org That's 300 mA at 250 VDC. The voltage doesn't really matter, does it? If you're charging with a constant-current source, all but one of the cells could short, and the last cell would still see no more than 360 mW. If you were charging

Re: [EVDL] ENERDEL Battery Experiences

2015-04-01 Thread paul dove via EV
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[EVDL] Temperature rating (Was: ENERDEL Battery Experiences)

2015-04-01 Thread Bill Dube via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (Was: ENERDEL Battery Experiences)

2015-04-01 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (Was: ENERDEL Battery Experiences)

2015-04-01 Thread jerry freedomev via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (Was: ENERDEL Battery Experiences)

2015-04-01 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (and Blowing them up!)

2015-04-01 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Same happens with NiMh: See my blown up Prius cells. http://aprs.org/prius/photos/bad/OverC-Left-CellsX.JPG http://aprs.org/prius/photos/bad/OverC-Right-BentX.JPG All I did was p ut a 300 mA trickle on them... and then forgot about it. Until 8 hours later when they began to explode... Bob,

Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (Was: ENERDEL Battery Experiences)

2015-04-01 Thread Bill Dube via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (Was: ENERDEL Battery Experiences)

2015-04-01 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (Was: ENERDEL Battery Experiences)

2015-04-01 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (and Blowing them up!)

2015-04-01 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
From: Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org Same happens with NiMh: See my blown up Prius cells... All I did was p ut a 300 mA trickle on them... and then forgot about it. Until 8 hours later when they began to explode... Wow, Bob. That is difficult to understand. Across one cell,

Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (and Blowing them up!)

2015-04-01 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
That's 300 mA at 250 VDC. And it proves exactly what the literature says, You CANNOT trickle charge a NiMh cells beyond 100% and the same holds for Lithium. They overpressure and explode or vent or whatever it takes to relieve the pressure... This is completely different from our 60 year

Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (Was: ENERDEL Battery Experiences)

2015-04-01 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (Was: ENERDEL Battery Experiences)

2015-04-01 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Temperature rating (Was: ENERDEL Battery Experiences)

2015-04-01 Thread paul dove via EV
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[EVDL] Anybody want a leaf drive-train minus the battery? $1, 500 OBO + delivery costs from Atlanta

2015-04-01 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I was able to boot up the leaf and get it moving around under it's own power. (with wheel dollies under the rear wheels). Video here: http://www.summet.com/blog/2015/03/31/its-alive/ So the entire drive-train up front is in working order. (charger, inverter, motor, gearbox, steering, all

[EVDL] Zombie 222

2015-04-01 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
John Wayland just put this up on the NEDRA list - Hello to All, Here is a teaser link to a web magazine 'The Verge' that will be featuring Black Zombie later today - the opening paragraph is a fun read: Dear Verge readers, Later this morning, you'll be able to read and watch our amazing