[EVDL] Tell Toyota what you think of their Fool cell vehicle

Earlier today, I got an email from Toyota promoting their Fool Cell vehicle (with no reply address). So I went to the Toyota web site and found the CONTACT link and filled out an on-line email telling them to stop throwing good money after bad in last years ideas (Fool cells) and to come out

[EVDL] Toyota FCV runs on Musk's bull$$it

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[EVDL] Toyota FCV runs on Musk's bull$$it

You should also watch Toyota's new video which says the car can run on Elon Musk's bull$$it comments and show how they can take cow manure, and process it to hydrogen.. all they have to do is add steam and heat. DUH, No mention of what fossil fuel they are using to get that steam and heat?

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Re: [EVDL] Tell Toyota what you think of their Fool cell vehicle

On 24 Apr 2015 at 1:08, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Eventually people will wise up to the taxes, aka subsidies, needed to support a fuel cell auto industry when they start wondering where their tax payments are going. Education will shorten that time. Watch out, that's a sharp two-edged

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I have the impression that no matter how hard we argue here until we are blue in the face (and it will edify some and give a solid background about *why* they are called fool cells) it will not sway much of the compliance car that Toyota is building (or the battery swap that Tesla is doing),

Re: [EVDL] Tell Toyota what you think of their Fool cell vehicle

Yep. Better education is the key. Eventually people will wise up to the taxes, aka subsidies, needed to support a fuel cell auto industry when they start wondering where their tax payments are going. Education will shorten that time. Peri -- Original Message -- From: Cor van de

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Re: [EVDL] Toyota FCV runs on Musk's bull$$it

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Re: [EVDL] Tell Toyota what you think of their Fool cell vehicle

Bob, thanks for writing in about your effort and the response. It spurred me into action, I went there and submitted my thoughts on the Prius (I have an '02, and on the newest models), but more so on the FCV vs BEV debate. Perhaps many of us could sway them, eventually. Thanks again, -Chris

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Re: [EVDL] Tell Toyota what you think of their Fool cell vehicle

Peri Hartman via EV wrote: I'm not so sure FCVs are an ally to EVs. Whether FCVs go away on their own or not, to build the infrastructure will cost billions and then billions more of subsidies to generate hydrogen at a competitive price. Once that infrastructure exists, it is a beast, not an

Re: [EVDL] Toyota FCV runs on Musk's bull$$it

On Apr 23, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ben Goren via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Um...why not just use that methane as is? I mean, we already do -- every vehicle with a CNG or LNG sticker on it is burning methane. To reduce air pollution. That's why CARB adopted the ZEV mandate.

Re: [EVDL] Toyota FCV runs on Musk's bull$$it

I think Ben's question still has merit, though. If you start with methane and take it down two paths, what is the difference in emissions and efficiency? The first path is burning the methane in an ICE. The second path is converting the methane to hydrogen and using it in a fuel cell. It