[EVDL] eGO scooter wanted.

2020-04-16 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
I have a friend in Utah a few hours out of Salt Lake that wants to put an e-wheel on an eGO.  So a non-running one is sought cheap.No working motor, controller etc... Preferably in the West nearer than San Francisco. Shipping might be a deal killer so the closer to Utah the better. Must have a

Re: [EVDL] [egoscooters] eGO scooter intermittent problem

2020-04-16 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
I did not know there were 12v eGO scooters.  I think mine is all 24vdc. No DC/DC.  I do have more data. I was regening down my hill going slowly.  Each battery was 13.34vdc exactly. almost all the way down the hill the regen cut out and I couldn't get it going.  I pushed along till about a

Re: [EVDL] Are these A123 batteries a wise purchase?

2020-04-16 Thread Bill Dube via EV
This 1C test is the standard test that allows inter-comparison of cells from brand to brand. You need some sort of a test under standard conditions, for different size cells, for different voltage cells, etc. You need some test that is uniform for all manufacturers. This is the test everyone

Re: [EVDL] Are these A123 batteries a wise purchase?

2020-04-16 Thread Willie via EV
On 4/16/20 6:32 PM, Michael Ross via EV wrote: As shown by the research at Dalhousie, 16000 cycles is meaningless if the conditions are watered down. That kind of cycle count is falsely impressive, and a huge waste of time and resources. Assuming you are not referring to a 1C discharge rate

Re: [EVDL] Are these A123 batteries a wise purchase?

2020-04-16 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Are these A123 batteries a wise purchase?

2020-04-16 Thread Bill Dube via EV
The A123 systems 26650 cylindrical cells have a _huge_ cycle life. Way over 5000 cycles at a 1C rate. 100% SOC discharge. (They have cycled a 26650 cell more than 16,000 times and still have greater than 50% capacity.) The main trouble with higher rates is the elevated cell temperature

Re: [EVDL] Are these A123 batteries a wise purchase?

2020-04-16 Thread Bill Dube via EV
The A123 systems 26650 cylindrical cells have a _huge_ cycle life. Way over 5000 cycles at a 1C rate. 100% SOC discharge. (They have cycled a 26650 cell more than 16,000 times and still have greater than 50% capacity.) The main trouble with higher rates is the elevated cell temperature

Re: [EVDL] Are these A123 batteries a wise purchase?

2020-04-16 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] [egoscooters] eGO scooter intermittent problem

2020-04-16 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Are these A123 batteries a wise purchase?

2020-04-16 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] custom battery

2020-04-16 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Ok, I did a little bit of research. Anyone care to double check this ? Looks correct (at a casual glance). I'll say right now that 100 caps at $40 is a non starter :) Yes. It's possible, but not cheap. :-) The cheapest solution is probably an ICE and generator.

Re: [EVDL] [egoscooters] eGO scooter intermittent problem

2020-04-16 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
Problem: After normal time out the contactor will not re-energize and turn the bike back on when turning the key to go far or go fast.  (no click) It will start to work intermittently after time.(click) It has never failed while riding.  One other thing, the wiring diagram doesn't show the

Re: [EVDL] custom battery

2020-04-16 Thread David Kerzel via EV
5,000j is 5000 watt/seconds or 6.7 HP for 1 second 100 amp-hour battery at 360 volts is 36KW-Hr or 129,000,000 watt-seconds or joules. To store 36KWhr at 360 volts, you would need 2,000F of capacitor rated at >360volts. When 50% discharged, the voltage would be 254volts. David Kerzel

Re: [EVDL] Are these A123 batteries a wise purchase?

2020-04-16 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Are these A123 batteries a wise purchase?

2020-04-16 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Battery spot welder

2020-04-16 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
You can buy a cheap Chinese battery spot welder on Ebay for less than $100. It's probably even less than that from Aliexpress, if you trust them. I saw one being used a few years ago and it seemed OK. I have no idea about its longevity or relative convenience. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA

Re: [EVDL] Battery spot welder

2020-04-16 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Battery spot welder

2020-04-16 Thread Jim Walls via EV
On 04/16/2020 03:36, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: This is crude and the electrodes stick. However no big battery is needed. https://youtu.be/WSXHO7C1vaM maybe some one knows a better method. Maybe a better modification of this design. Lawrence Rhodes I had to laugh with him safety

Re: [EVDL] .tw Tesla-3 crashes, over-turns (v)

2020-04-16 Thread paul dove via EV
Wonder how fast you have to drive to flip a model 3? Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 16, 2020, at 4:37 AM, evln via EV wrote: > >  > > https://taiwanenglishnews.com/tesla-catches-fire-after-crash-driver-dies/ > Tesla catches fire after crash: driver dies > April 3, 2020 A Tesla Model 3 caught

Re: [EVDL] Are these A123 batteries a wise purchase?

2020-04-16 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] custom battery

2020-04-16 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Yes, so in practice I probably could only get about 70-80% of the energy out, I presume. And then I need to step up the voltage. Complicated. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Jay Summet via EV" To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: "Jay Summet" Sent: 16-Apr-20 8:12:16 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL]

Re: [EVDL] .tw Tesla-3 crashes, over-turns (v)

2020-04-16 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] custom battery

2020-04-16 Thread Jay Summet via EV
The other issue with Capacitors is that the voltage goes down quickly, and to get all the energy out you need to be able to make use of the widely varying voltage range. Jay On 4/16/20 11:00 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Ok, I did a little bit of research. Anyone care to double check this ?

Re: [EVDL] custom battery

2020-04-16 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Ok, I did a little bit of research. Anyone care to double check this ? Here's one for $42 at unit quantity. 1200F, max voltage 2.7V https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/tecate-group/TPLH-2R7-1200SL60X74/2085-TPLH-2R7-1200SL60X74-ND/9930298 Energy is E = 1/2 CV^2 where E is joules.

Re: [EVDL] custom battery

2020-04-16 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I'm looking at supercaps. I appreciate that a few people have suggested this, though I don't know yet whether it could be done economically. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Jan Steinman via EV" To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: "Jan Steinman" Sent: 15-Apr-20 11:03:27 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL]

[EVDL] Battery spot welder

2020-04-16 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
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[EVDL] .tw Tesla-3 crashes, over-turns (v)

2020-04-16 Thread evln via EV
https://taiwanenglishnews.com/tesla-catches-fire-after-crash-driver-dies/ Tesla catches fire after crash: driver dies April 3, 2020 A Tesla Model 3 caught fire after hitting a traffic island and overturning in Taoyuan ... After stabilizing the main fire, the lithium ion batteries continued to

[EVDL] Are these A123 batteries a wise purchase?

2020-04-16 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ele/d/hayward-a-battery-cells-33v-2500-mah/7098505376.html Are these batteries a wise purchase? I am building it for a 40 amp 72v controller.  This would be my first lithium build. I think I could bet by with one string of 21 but would 2 or three strings be

[EVDL] .ca pu-truck bashes Tesla> driver shaken, not stirred(uninjured)

2020-04-16 Thread evln via EV
https://www.bclocalnews.com/news/truck-loses-a-wheel-in-crash-keeps-going-crashes-again-in-nanaimo/ Truck loses a wheel in crash, keeps going, crashes again in Nanaimo Apr. 8, 2020 ... A witness said the truck had originally been involved in a crash with an electric car at the intersection with

Re: [EVDL] eGO scooter intermittent problem

2020-04-16 Thread evln via EV
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Re: [EVDL] custom battery

2020-04-16 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
I think the answer is really quite simple — and very expensive: capacitors! I have a fence charger that charges/discharges six joules every second or so. I have studio strobe lights that can charge/discharge nearly 5,000 joules in under ten seconds. Other than the magnitude of energy that is