Re: [EVDL] Self Driving Mode, was Tesla's Sneaky Rolling

2022-02-08 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
hicle Discussion List'" Cc: "Bill Dennis" Sent: 08-Feb-22 06:44:45 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Self Driving Mode, was Tesla's Sneaky Rolling I was driving on the I-210 outside of Los Angeles this weekend, which is under construction. They've shifted the lanes, but didn't do a good job

Re: [EVDL] Self Driving Mode, was Tesla's Sneaky Rolling

2022-02-08 Thread jim--- via EV
-Original Message- From: "Bill Dennis via EV" > I was driving on the I-210 outside of Los Angeles this weekend, which is > under construction. > They've shifted the lanes, but didn't do a good job of blacking out the old > lane markers. > So even as a human driver, I found it

Re: [EVDL] Self Driving Mode, was Tesla's Sneaky Rolling

2022-02-08 Thread Bill Dennis via EV
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Self Driving Mode, was Tesla's Sneaky Rolling I have never seen Autopilot drop out in 3 years of driving a Tesla. On Sunday, February 6, 2022, 10:33:32 PM CST, Michael Ross via EV wrote: Human vision has to assemble an image mostly from memory. The contemporaneous data

Re: [EVDL] Self Driving Mode, was Tesla's Sneaky Rolling

2022-02-07 Thread paul dove via EV
er. > > > > I wish I could turn off all this "fluffy" stuff.  Guess I'm used to simple > conversions and my Chevy Bolt & Leaf. > > > > Best regards, > > Mark > > > > Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2022 21:09:18 + > > From: "Peri Hartman&quo

Re: [EVDL] Self Driving Mode, was Tesla's Sneaky Rolling

2022-02-06 Thread Michael Ross via EV
lt & Leaf. > > > > Best regards, > > Mark > > > > Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2022 21:09:18 + > > From: "Peri Hartman" > > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" > > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Self Driving Mode, was Tesla's Sneaky Rolling > &g

Re: [EVDL] Self Driving Mode, was Tesla's Sneaky Rolling

2022-02-06 Thread paul dove via EV
s and my Chevy Bolt & Leaf. Best regards, Mark Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2022 21:09:18 + From: "Peri Hartman" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Subject: Re: [EVDL] Self Driving Mode, was Tesla's Sneaky Rolling       Stops Message-ID: Content-Type: text/pla

[EVDL] Self Driving Mode, was Tesla's Sneaky Rolling

2022-02-06 Thread mark hanson via EV
om: "Peri Hartman" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Subject: Re: [EVDL] Self Driving Mode, was Tesla's Sneaky Rolling Stops Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Does autopilot give any sort of warning when it drops out

Re: [EVDL] Self Driving Mode, was Tesla's Sneaky Rolling Stops

2022-02-05 Thread paul dove via EV
Cc: "mark hanson" Sent: 05-Feb-22 09:48:01 Subject: [EVDL] Self Driving Mode, was Tesla's Sneaky Rolling Stops >Thanks Bill. > > > >Folks, We could argue the details back & forth but fundamentally a computer >dropping out during a critical life function is a *

Re: [EVDL] Self Driving Mode, was Tesla's Sneaky Rolling Stops

2022-02-05 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
-- From: "mark hanson via EV" To: "'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'" Cc: "mark hanson" Sent: 05-Feb-22 09:48:01 Subject: [EVDL] Self Driving Mode, was Tesla's Sneaky Rolling Stops Thanks Bill. Folks, We could argue the details back & forth but fundament

[EVDL] Self Driving Mode, was Tesla's Sneaky Rolling Stops

2022-02-05 Thread mark hanson via EV
Thanks Bill. Folks, We could argue the details back & forth but fundamentally a computer dropping out during a critical life function is a *fatal flaw* in engineering. Sure the folks that ran into trees during self driving should have been more attentive, but when you pay $10K extra for a