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I think you are wrong on Musk’s behavior, but don’t really care to argue it. I know much shorts can hurt a company’s stock price, and myself own stock where the number of shorts have gone off into the stratosphere.(above even the 34% that you say never happens). That all needs to go into any

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Nothing is inherently wrong with short selling, which is permissible under the regulations of the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). However, the 'short and distort' type of short seller uses misinformation and a bear market to manipulate stocks. S is illegal, as is its counterpart, the

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Exactly! - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Aug 19, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > > Musk simply broke the rules when he falsely claimed to have a buyer. The > SEC doesn't have to be in some conspiracy to react very strongly to that > kind of public commentary.

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Musk simply broke the rules when he falsely claimed to have a buyer. The SEC doesn't have to be in some conspiracy to react very strongly to that kind of public commentary. When he said that the stock price went haywire and some people lost money reacting to it. The SEC exists at least in part to

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Ok, so go back to what I said earlier: Maybe. The reputable source said five, not four. And as I said, they may have been (and likely were) other things going on. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Aug 19, 2019, at 10:41 AM, paul dove wrote: > > You are missing what I said.

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You are missing what I said. Four states were in the running and California threw their own hat in the plate offering reduction of environmental laws in order to be considered. Elon said slim chance. On Monday, August 19, 2019, 12:36:39 PM CDT, Mark Abramowitz wrote: Those four

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That does not say California. The Brown administration is hustling to compete with four other states — Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas — for what Tesla Chief Executive Elon Musk calls his “gigafactory.” Musk has described California as a “long shot” for snagging the proposed plant.

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Those four states plus California make the five that the spokesperson referred to. If not California, what’s the fifth state? Even your quote of Musk of Musk shows California as competing. What am I missing? - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Aug 19, 2019, at 10:29 AM, paul

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Tesla will likely produce its upcoming Model Y crossover SUV at its Gigafactory in Reno, Nevada, the automaker said on Wednesday. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2019, at 9:34 PM, Tom Hudson via EV wrote: > > >> On 8/18/2019 8:45 AM, Michael Ross via EV wrote: >> I see the naming slipping -

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What evidence of this is there? - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Aug 19, 2019, at 3:48 AM, paul dove via EV wrote: > > The SEC were put up to charging Elon with manipulating the market to hide the > fact that the oil companies are shorting his stock. Don’t you remember he >

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I believe you got it backwards. California was never on the list so they were going to lower environmental rules to lure Tesla back. https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1093814_tesla-gigafactory-ca-could-waive-environmental-rules-to-get-it-report Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2019, at

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The LA Times article linked on that site says nothing but hopes from the Governor about Tesla locating in California. It actually says they are already preparing a site in Reno. On Monday, August 19, 2019, 10:10:29 AM CDT, Mark Abramowitz wrote: Maybe. According to the L.A. Times

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Yes, it does say that. Perhaps they were preparing it for something else no matter the location of the Gigafactory, because the Tesla spokesperson indicated that it still hadn’t been decided, and was between five states. ““Timing for the gigafactory is very important,” Tesla spokesman Simon

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They only float 75% of the shares. It is rare to go over 50% short of the float shares. Right now it’s around 28% shorts on the float. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2019, at 1:56 PM, Peter Eckhoff via EV wrote: > > Question: "What happens if the shorters acquire so much stock that they >

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Maybe. According to the L.A. Times article cited in that article, there were five finalists, including California. The rest of the article also seems to confirm my statement. It was likely the L.A. Times article that was the basis for my opinion. But while I don’t consider your source to be

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The Giga factory in Nevada makes cars too. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2019, at 8:45 AM, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > > I see the naming slipping - Gigafactory in Nevada means a battery plant. In > Shanghai it is an automobile manufacturing facility. > > Yes, Telsa is very sharp working

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The SEC were put up to charging Elon with manipulating the market to hide the fact that the oil companies are shorting his stock. Don’t you remember he wanted to go private because of all the shorts. They wanted to shut him up. They are not going to charge the oil companies with manipulation.

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The reason they ship it is because either they planned poorly with not enough time for environmental review in California, or they didn’t want to fully disclose the environmental impacts of the plant. Either way, when they tried and failed to get the legislature to exempt them from

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On 8/18/2019 8:45 AM, Michael Ross via EV wrote: I see the naming slipping - Gigafactory in Nevada means a battery plant. In Shanghai it is an automobile manufacturing facility. The name is NOT "slipping".  Like the main Gigafactory in Nevada, Gigafactory 3 in China will produce battery

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Question: "What happens if the shorters acquire so much stock that they eventually have a create a presence on the Board of Directors??" What part of the company stock is currently owned by EV friendly investors? What would cause EV friendly invests to lose their percentage? On Sat, Aug 17,

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"if he wants to fill up China with Teslas" Everyone keeps forgetting, (maybe even EM hi'self) The goal is to fill up the globe with EVs, not necessarily Teslas. He only makes money to make more EVs. He doesn't even enjoy much of what he's got.and risks it all the time. Work as home. Glad its not

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On 18 Aug 2019 at 9:45, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > Diversification of politics. No question about acting up on Chinese > internet, can't do it. Yeah, Musk will have to fall in line, and keep his mouth and typing under control, if he wants to fill up China with Teslas. So will GM, Ford, and

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I see the naming slipping - Gigafactory in Nevada means a battery plant. In Shanghai it is an automobile manufacturing facility. Yes, Telsa is very sharp working in China, as long as they don't get nationalized. Musk is true to his word wanting to keep EVs rolling along. He will go all in as many

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On 18 Aug 2019 at 0:23, John Blair via EV wrote: > "Within five months, Tesla should be producing > and selling the Tesla Model 3 from this > factory. (from the article). Thanks! That's a smart move for Tesla. David Roden -

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David, Here is what Gigafactory 3 in China looked like on August 3rd: https://insideevs.com/news/363439/tesla-gigafactory-3-progress-august-3-2019/ It is pretty far along and last I heard, machinery is being

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On 17 Aug 2019 at 16:24, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > look at how fast EVs disappeared when the political winds changed [in > the early 2000s] ... The future for EVs in the USA is *far* from > certain! And in the early 1980s, too. Ronald Reagan moved into the White House and one of his first

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Those are not equivalent comparisons. Those cars were toys and GM never wanted to build an EV they were forced to by the government. This is a new game just like the digital watch or digital cameras they took over. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 17, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > >

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EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: Anyone who says "there's no stopping it" or "there's no going back" hasn't been paying attention to politics and business. :-( Amen to that. People were saying the same things back in 2000 at the peak of the last EV boom cycle. But look at how fast EVs

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"It also didn't hurt that Tesla had a billionaire EV enthusiast behind them." There's an understatement. Nothing was going to happen without Musk and Straubel. And there was no billionair-ness when they started. Despite the unlikeliness of success that still surrounds it, the most important part

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Anyone who says "there's no stopping it" or "there's no going back" hasn't been paying attention to politics and business. :-( Of course Tesla makes good cars; they got to start with a blank slate, not a century of hidebound tradition. Is there any other production EV that's 100% new?

[EVDL] The Tesla conspiracy

I have followed Jack and Jesse for a while and find their information interesting.  I hope you all will also be enlightened. Lawrence Rhodes  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfILTM_xcOE -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: