Re: [EVDL] watts per mile ev motorcycle vs prius

2019-11-16 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
Craig Vetter is the inventor of cruiser motorcycle fairings and had a mileage contest and has had great success in streamlining motorcycles. Lawrence Rhodes http://craigvetter.com/pages/2012-Streamliner/2012-vetter-streamliner-p61-kit.html -- next part -- An

Re: [EVDL] watts per mile ev motorcycle vs prius

2019-11-14 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 14 Nov 2019 at 5:50, paul dove via EV wrote: > Those are all hybrids you would need to compare them to a hybrid > motorcycle No, they're not all hybrds. The Honda Civic VX (52mpg), Honda Civic CRX HF (62mpg), and Chevrolet Sprint (53mpg) are all conventional ICEVs. The Sprint even

Re: [EVDL] watts per mile ev motorcycle vs prius

2019-11-14 Thread paul dove via EV
Those are all hybrids you would need to compare them to a hybrid motorcycle Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 13, 2019, at 8:47 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV > wrote: > > On 13 Nov 2019 at 6:06, paul dove via EV wrote: > >> Harley-Davidson's fleet average fuel economy for 2018 was 44 mpg.

Re: [EVDL] watts per mile ev motorcycle vs prius

2019-11-14 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
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Re: [EVDL] watts per mile ev motorcycle vs prius

2019-11-13 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 13 Nov 2019 at 6:06, paul dove via EV wrote: > Harley-Davidson's fleet average fuel economy for 2018 was 44 mpg. > > What car gets 44 mpg? 2016 Toyota Prius, 54mpg city. 2015 Toyota Prius C (aka Yaris Hybrid), 53mpg city. 2000 Honda Insight, 61mpg highway. 1995 Honda Civic VX, 52mpg

Re: [EVDL] watts per mile ev motorcycle vs prius

2019-11-13 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 12 Nov 2019 at 21:45, evtlfp20 via EV wrote: > My scooter uses 40 amps at 72 volt s and 40 mph, so whats my watts > per mile ? I don't know, how many horsepower per mile does your gas car use? :-\ Obviously horsepower per mile is a nonsense unit, and so is watts per mile (watts and

Re: [EVDL] watts per mile ev motorcycle vs prius

2019-11-13 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
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Re: [EVDL] watts per mile ev motorcycle vs prius

2019-11-13 Thread paul dove via EV
True but it probably pulls 300 amps during acceleration Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 12, 2019, at 11:01 PM, Cor van de Water via EV > wrote: > > 40a x 72v = 2880 Watts of power. > This is 2880 Wh (Watthour) of energy in an hour. > In that hour you go 40 mi, so your efficiency is 2880/40 =

Re: [EVDL] watts per mile ev motorcycle vs prius

2019-11-13 Thread Bill Dube via EV
On 11/13/2019 8:44 PM, Paul Compton via EV wrote: An small motorcycle and rider has roughly the same drag at 60mpg as a small car.     This is the main problem with typical motorcycles. They are basically a brick, aerodynamically. This is compounded by the lack of space and load carrying

Re: [EVDL] watts per mile ev motorcycle vs prius

2019-11-12 Thread Paul Compton via EV
An small motorcycle and rider has roughly the same drag at 60mpg as a small car. On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 at 05:02, evtlfp20 via EV wrote: > > > I seen add on battery packs for cars and am surprised how small they > are, so that must mean watts per mile is way lower. > > My scooter uses 40 amps at

Re: [EVDL] watts per mile ev motorcycle vs prius

2019-11-12 Thread Larry Gales via EV
Another way of computing that is you get about 13.7 miles/kWh (40/2.88). This compares with 4.3 miles/kWh over 10,000 miles for my long range Tesla model 3 On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 7:45 PM evtlfp20 via EV wrote: > > I seen add on battery packs for cars and am surprised how small they > are, so

Re: [EVDL] watts per mile ev motorcycle vs prius

2019-11-12 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
40a x 72v = 2880 Watts of power. This is 2880 Wh (Watthour) of energy in an hour. In that hour you go 40 mi, so your efficiency is 2880/40 = 72 Wh/mi This is very low for an EV, but that is also due to low speed. At Freeway speed your consumption per mile will be much higher. My truck can achieve

Re: [EVDL] watts per mile ev motorcycle vs prius

2019-11-12 Thread Bob Bath via EV
My leaf averages 4.1 kWh/mi. Mostly in-town, which is close to your speed spec. Sincerely, Bob Bath Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 54 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not cluelessness. > On Nov 12, 2019, at