[EVDL] EVLN: CA US Air Force Base's 42 EV fleet rollout V2G roll-call

2014-11-19 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.af.mil/News/ArticleDisplay/tabid/223/Article/554343/af-tests-first-all-electric-vehicle-fleet-in-california.aspx AF tests first all-electric vehicle fleet in California November 14, 2014 [images / Sarah Corrice

[EVDL] EVLN: Jaguar Electric F-Type, Trademark Applied Target= Tesla!

2014-11-19 Thread brucedp5 via EV
% ? Will it be Electric or Electrified ? % https://autos.yahoo.com/news/jaguar-building-electric-f-type-200020994.html Is Jaguar Building an Electric F-Type? By Jeff Perez [20141115] [image http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/cms/autos/Boldride/jaguar_f-type_3.jpg jaguar f-type electric photo

[EVDL] Cruser-Sport nEV Sexy dune-buggy+beverage-cart love-child

2014-11-19 Thread brucedp5 via EV
'sub-Tesla toaster nEVs are not intended to be sexy' http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20141112-fast-times-in-the-slow-lane The Cruser Sport is not your grandfather’s golf cart David K Gibson 12 November 2014 [image http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/wwfeatures/624_351/images/live/p0/2b/pn/p02bpn52.jpg

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread tomw via EV
A person's viewpoint on this and many other things depends on how risk averse s/he is, and we all tend to think our level of risk aversion is just about right and any that is quite different is unreasonable. We are also very good at self-justifying our position by concocting different

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Nov 18, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Cor van de Water via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: If his colleague would either have asked anyone at that 1-day seminar to borrow the car for a few hours or he would have called a cab, he would have been with his wife as quickly as when his EV would have been fully

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Nov 19, 2014, at 7:27 AM, tomw via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: A person's viewpoint on this and many other things depends on how risk averse s/he is, and we all tend to think our level of risk aversion is just about right and any that is quite different is unreasonable. Range anxiety, I

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Here's another point of view. Range anxiety doesn't so much come from the range of the vehicle but the ability to charge. Regardless of the range, at some point you will have to charge. If such places are easy to come by and charging doesn't take long, it's not a big deal. For example, if

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall via EV
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[EVDL] again...range

2014-11-19 Thread Electric Blue auto convertions via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Nov 19, 2014, at 8:32 AM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Range anxiety doesn't so much come from the range of the vehicle but the ability to charge. That's a good point. You can argue all day about the relative merits of at-home and on-the-go charging, but the fact remains

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread Rick Beebe via EV
On 11/19/2014 10:59 AM, Ben Goren via EV wrote: On Nov 19, 2014, at 8:32 AM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Range anxiety doesn't so much come from the range of the vehicle but the ability to charge. That's a good point. You can argue all day about the relative merits of

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread Stephen via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Stephen via EV wrote: You certainly can't rely on public chargers, or at least I haven't had the nerve to yet... I only charge at work or home. I feel the same way. It may be occupied, or broken, or it's only for other brands of EVs, or I don't have the right 'card' etc. I hate going to gas

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 19 Nov 2014 at 12:13, Lee Hart via EV wrote: I [prefer charging at home]. [A public charger] may be occupied, or broken, or it's only for other brands of EVs, or I don't have the right 'card' etc. Like (I think) Ben Goren, in the last few years, even before some of the recent news

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread jerry freedomev via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread robert winfield via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Ben Goren wrote: ... but the fact remains that American culture is largely built around on-the-go charging. It's what people know and how they think. That is not culture, that is a habit. It may be difficult to break, but habits change. Today you see long lines to buy coffee at Starbucks, these

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
I believe that some home installed chargers are still networked, so they are still tracking you - this is sold as that you can set different rates for your own RFID and others, but I prefer to not have a smart charger. I like the simplicity of an extension cord: copper cable and connectors, that

[EVDL] Honda Civic Hybrid battery pack info needed

2014-11-19 Thread David Chapman via EV
I picked up a complete 2005 Honda Civic hybrid pack a couple weeks ago and was curious as to what all is contained in the can and what the battery voltage / Ahr is. Also, is the large flat air cooled item where the two orange cables run into some type of controller? Seems to have a 3 lug

[EVDL] OT: status the newswires are changing, $till being manipulated

2014-11-19 Thread brucedp5 via EV
[The following has OT items and some of my opinions. On OT topics, as described by the evdl.org charger evdl members voted for, please use OT to preface your specific topic if you pick out pieces/paragraphs/sections to comment on. Qualifier: For those that do not know what I have been doing for

Re: [EVDL] Honda Civic Hybrid battery pack info needed

2014-11-19 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread Ben Goren via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread Ben Goren via EV
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Re: [EVDL] OT: status the newswires are changing, $till being manipulated

2014-11-19 Thread Ben Goren via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 19 Nov 2014 at 13:08, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: probably eventually, a lot of curbside charging for those who can't park on premises for whatever reason. The US tends to be more focused on suburbia, so we often forget about the Europeans who live in city houses and apartments and park

Re: [EVDL] OT: status the newswires are changing, $till being manipulated

2014-11-19 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 19 Nov 2014 at 20:51, Ben Goren via EV wrote: What interest me far more than fool cell vehicles is gasoline (etc.) synthesized from atmospheric CO2 using solar energy. Is it just me, or does it seem that we're wandering even further off topic? If that's true, maybe we could please nudge

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: The US tends to be more focused on suburbia, so we often forget about the Europeans who live in city houses and apartments and park their cars on the public streets. They have no garages or even dedicated private parking spaces, so they have no places to fit