Re: [EVDL] Level 1 charging solar

[Cor van de Water via EV]

I don't know how this one works - if the interface works well
then just changing the Pilot duty cycle will allow the charger
to tell the car how much it is allowed to pull and when the
solar panel delivers less, the charger should simply shut down
to avoid keeping the car "on" and actually depleting the battery
instead of charging it. Some time ago I read about some experiment that
EMW (Electric Motor Werks) did on I believe a Tesla charging from a
Juicebox where they turned the pilot signal down to only 3A charge
current at 110
I believe that the result was that the charger provided about as much
power as the car consumed between keeping computers running, fans or
battery heaters and other peripherals, so net-net, there was almost no
change in charge after a full night plugged in, but at least it
demonstrated that the Juicebox could successfully convince a car to draw
extremely little power.

Side story here: I have a "Solar Battery Bank" which is a device with
several Lithium cells in parallel inside, a micro USB plug to charge
them up and 2 USB master plugs (A-type) to supply power to charge a
phone or tablet.
I have several of them and they generally work (although Ebay capacity
claims are often 10x overrated) but this one also has a solar panel that
can charge its internal battery. Indeed, as soon as there is decent
ambient light, the processor inside sees the output from the solar panel
and starts blinking the built-in LEDs to indicate that it is charging,
just like when you plug its micro-USB into a wall adapter or computer.
I was afraid that the blinking LEDs would draw more current than the
built-in (small) solar panel provides so I opened it to measure.
Turns out the LEDs are high efficient ones and draw only about 1-2 mA
However, the processor is not low power and when it is on, it also turns
on the DC/DC converter that boosts the 3.7V Lithium output to a stable
5V for the USB ports. Between processor and boost converter, 60mA is
consumed out of the battery.
The solar cell in full sunlight delivers a max current of 150mA.
So, while it is theoretically possible to recharge the battery using the
solar panel, any decent period that sun light is not optimally hitting
the panel will result in a *dis* charging of the battery.
Solution is simple, of course: disconnect the solar panel and wire it
through a blocking Schottky diode directly to the battery, so the
processor does not see the output from the panel and not activate. To
avoid overcharging the battery eventually, a 150mA bypass regulator at
4.2V will do the trick, making the solar charger usable.

Back to solar charging an EV: In downtown Sunnyvale is a solar-powered
charger near the train station on Evelyn, at the other side of Mathilda.
The power is coming from a bank of south-angled solar panels, charging a
battery in an enclosure under the panels. That battery then runs a
stand-alone inverter, connected to the adjacent charging station. If the
light on the charging station is on, it receives power from the
inverter. Once the battery is depleted, the charger turns off.
I do not know the story behind the solar charger and why it is not
simply powered from the grid, but there must be a reason/opportunity
that has likely faded into the past by this time. Two years ago the
charger was not working so several complaints were sent to the city, who
deferred it to the person responsible and eventually it was fixed,
probably a new battery needed to be installed.

However, the charger that was presented here, will not have a battery,
so all I can think is that it is a solar panel and inverter, coupled to
a charging station (which is only a GFCI and contactor and pilot signal
generator) that can modulate the power draw from the EV to the amount of
power available from the panel and gracefully shut down when the power
is lower than the Pilot can go. (Simplest way is to remove the pilot
signal which will cause the EV to stop taking power)

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From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Alan Arrison
via EV
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 7:38 PM
To: ev@lists.evdl.org
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Level 1 charging solar

What happens when clouds come by and randomly block the sun?

Do the inverters start up and shut down gracefully?

What does the car do when it sees the AC power going on and off?

Sounds like a recipe for damaged electronics.

Al


On 6/16/2016 3:27 PM, Seth Rothenberg via EV wrote:
> Friends,
>

Re: [EVDL] Level 1 charging solar

[John Lussmyer via EV]

On Thu Jun 16 20:55:37 PDT 2016 ev@lists.evdl.org said:
>There have always been clouds, and yes, the inverters manage it.  It is one
>of their main functions. When the voltage of the supply exceeds the battery
>voltage, the battery is charged (limited by the BMS).  When there is
>insufficient voltage the battery is not charged.  This is not a problem.
>You are identifying the normal operations of any solar photovoltaic system,
>and the battery management of an EV.   Not sure why you think there is a
>problem.

Because with the described setup, there is no communication between the 
Inverter and the Charger.
So, if a few clouds roll in, and the inverter can only put out 300W, but the 
charger wants 600W - you have a brown out, and what happens depends on both 
units.  It's quite possible that the charger would shut off - and stay off 
until manually reset.



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Re: [EVDL] Level 1 charging solar

[Michael Ross via EV]

There have always been clouds, and yes, the inverters manage it.  It is one
of their main functions. When the voltage of the supply exceeds the battery
voltage, the battery is charged (limited by the BMS).  When there is
insufficient voltage the battery is not charged.  This is not a problem.
You are identifying the normal operations of any solar photovoltaic system,
and the battery management of an EV.   Not sure why you think there is a
problem.

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Alan Arrison via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
wrote:

> What happens when clouds come by and randomly block the sun?
>
> Do the inverters start up and shut down gracefully?
>
> What does the car do when it sees the AC power going on and off?
>
> Sounds like a recipe for damaged electronics.
>
> Al
>
>
> On 6/16/2016 3:27 PM, Seth Rothenberg via EV wrote:
>
>> Friends,
>>
>> I saw a video of someone charging a Nissan Leaf
>> (presumably) using the provided Level 1 charger
>> and flexible solar panels attached to the car.
>> (presumably with an off-grid inverter).
>>
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Re: [EVDL] Level 1 charging solar

[Alan Arrison via EV]

What happens when clouds come by and randomly block the sun?

Do the inverters start up and shut down gracefully?

What does the car do when it sees the AC power going on and off?

Sounds like a recipe for damaged electronics.

Al


On 6/16/2016 3:27 PM, Seth Rothenberg via EV wrote:

Friends,

I saw a video of someone charging a Nissan Leaf
(presumably) using the provided Level 1 charger
and flexible solar panels attached to the car.
(presumably with an off-grid inverter).



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Re: [EVDL] Driving a Leaf from San Francisco to Santa Cruz and back.

[brucedp5 via EV]

Most likely Lawrence's route was Hwy 101 south (flat) to Hwy 85 (small
slopes) to Hwy 17 (1000' climb) down to Santa Cruz, CA. Here is a map
https://goo.gl/maps/UnjxpeCFwLx
Hopefully he left around noon to miss all the traffic.

If Lawrence's choir was at UCSCruz they have a free EVSE to use.
Plugshare.com shows plenty of L2 and a couple of L3 in Santa Cruz. Checking
the driver's comments sadly shows some of the public L2 are down, but the
Nissan dealership L3&2 are 24/7 and seem always up.

While I congratulate Lawrence on doing his homework, and then having the
gonads/chutzpah to step-up to bust an EV myth, with a ~85mi range EV, I
would always arrange to plug in, even at L1, while I was in Santa Cruz.

There is a mountain range that runs from San Francisco south that separates
the Pacific Ocean and the SF Bay area. While there are several earthquake
faults in the SF bay area (odd how the most earthquake prone areas are
jammed with humans), the most known fault, San Andreas, runs along that
mountain ridge near a road called Skyline Blvd
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Flat_eq_map_anotated.png

There are several passes (lower-points) to cross over on Skyline Blvd. The
Patchen Pass is the one at summit road that Cor mentioned, it tops out at
1,800 feet, and the one Lawrence climbed.

>From the Mt. base at Los Gatos, the four lane Hwy 17 becomes narrower, and
the turns tighter (less margin for error). Though the speed limit is in the
50's, locals drive through those tight turns switching lanes like
mad/crazies, so even if you are a careful steady-speed EV driver in the
right lane, it can get hairy/scary.

The 1,800 ft climb is not that high nor severe when compared to other passes
climbing to skyline blvd. I drove my 132VDC 2ton Blazer EV up Route 9 to
Skyline (a 3,000' climb) at a steady 30mph in second gear, plus plenty of
turn outs to let the local hopped-up speed demons pass. With my inefficient
Blazer, that 7 mile 3,000' climb used 3x times more power (since I had no
regen, I regained nothing on the way down except brake-shoe wear).

To answer Mark's question, it would be possible for Lawrence to leave SF,
cut over west to Hwy 1 via Daily-City. Hwy 1 runs fairly flat along the
Pacific coast except for the 1,000' climb near Devils slide near Pacifica
http://www.mapmyride.com/us/watsonville-ca/watsonville-santa-cruz-pacifica-san-fran-route-18649516

There is a whole lot less public EVSE along Hwy 1, than along the SF
Peninsula route Lawrence took. Perhaps the next time Lawrence drives to
Santa Cruz, if he secured charging while he was there, when he left fairly
charged, he could take the Hwy 1 route back to SF.

Similar to the way I did with my 50mi range PbSO4 EV by trying short trips
to know what was possible, and building from there, with a good charge
Lawrence could try returning to his SF home via Hwy 1 and arrive with charge
to spare :-)




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Re: [EVDL] Driving a Leaf from San Francisco to Santa Cruz and back.

[Lawrence Rhodes via EV]

Elevation of Patchen Pass is 1,808 feet.  The drive down is mostly flat til the 
pass.  70 Miles total.   I drive efficiently and keep freeway speeds between 45 
and 65mph.  I do try to keep 45 mph on hills unless I can follow a slow truck.  
Down hills I coast using D and D eco for braking.  Lawrence Rhodes...


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Re: [EVDL] Driving a Leaf from San Francisco to Santa Cruz and back.

[Mark Fr via EV]

Hi Lawrence,

I wonder what your range would look like taking the coast route - Highway 1.
No mountain.

Mark, in Santa Cruz

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Re: [EVDL] Driving a Leaf from San Francisco to Santa Cruz and back.

[Rush Dougherty via EV]

http://www.geocontext.org/publ/2010/04/profiler/en/?topo_ha=20160613731379516

Hi all, here's a link (I think it works...) to geocontext, if you take some time
you can set up a route either by foot, bicycle, or car and find the up's and
down's...

It should be useful to some people that are really planning a trip to see
variations in longer mileage vs height gains/losses. It would also be an
excellent tool if somebody could integrate the numbers of the particular car and
calculate the kw needed.

Rush Dougherty
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> From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Cor van de Water via
EV
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:24 AM
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Driving a Leaf from San Francisco to Santa Cruz and back.
>
> Willie,
> Both Santa Cruz and San Francisco are close to sea level, the road that
Lawrence took is
> up the mountain and down the other side. Summit Road (as the name suggests) is
the
> highest point in the route, it goes down on both sides although on the Silicon
Valley side you
> still have a good distance of Freeway before reaching San Francisco.
> Here is location of the highest point in the route:
> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Summit+Rd+%26+Santa+Cruz+Hwy,+Los+Gato
> s+CA
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> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:01 AM
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Driving a Leaf from San Francisco to Santa Cruz and back.
>
> On 06/16/2016 11:52 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> > I work as a musician as some of you know and I am part of the Freeway
> Philharmonic.  I have to play a choral concert in Santa Cruz this month.
> I did my two ball routine which gives me on average 5miles per kw.  By the
time I hit the
> summit of the Santa Cruz mountain I was down to 20 miles and 4 to 5 bars.
When I got to
> Santa Cruz by coasting and using Eco drive and drive as braking I was up to 43
miles and
> 4 bars.  When driving home I was at 2 bars and 17 miles.  I account for the
> difference: driving home at night, against the wind & it was colder. But I
accomplished a
> drive which I was told was impossible on one charge in either direction
because of the
> mountain.  Myth busted.  Lawrence Rhodes
> >
> Congrats. Lawrence!
>
> For those of us not familiar with California, more route details would be
interesting.  It is not
> so much the total up and down on a route but the difference in elevation
between start and
> end of trip.  And, of course, the total road distance.  Can you provide those
two pieces of
> data?
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Re: [EVDL] Level 1 charging solar

[Seth Rothenberg via EV]

The charging at work challenge is I work for a
mid-sized empire that can't place a work order
for a 5-20R GFCI outlet from their landlord (another empire :-).

There's an SMB across the parking lot that
had no trouble getting one.


The charging @ Forest is not related to camping,
it's only related to getting home.

The Forest is 55 miles from home,
and range is typically 75 depending on
outside temp, use of 4/55 Air Conditioning.
If I park in the woods and hike to AT,
there's no outlet.  If I drive to the AT lot,
there's no outlet.   The AT is
less than a mile from the Park office
opportunity charging/parking.



For @work, another option would be
through-the-window
a Wireless Extension Cord.
5-15P + 5' + "transmitter" +
"receiver" + 5' + 5-15R

I have not seen the above for sale,
nor L1 wireless.   I would need something
Listed by a Testing Laboratory.
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Re: [EVDL] Level 1 charging solar

[Cor van de Water via EV]

The "wireless charger" solutions that I have seen use a modified J1772
plug
that permanently sits behind the closed Leaf door without blocking the
fast charging port, then route internally through the motor bay and
under the car to the wireless receiving unit and logic.

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via EV
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:27 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: [EVDL] Level 1 charging solar

Friends,

I saw a video of someone charging a Nissan Leaf
(presumably) using the provided Level 1 charger
and flexible solar panels attached to the car.
(presumably with an off-grid inverter).

The video had no information other than showing a
clever routing the EVSE through the absent DCQC knockout.
(I have the DCQC port, so even that's not helpful :-)


I had a related idea.
While I am at work, I presently don't have access to the grid.
But I do have access to the sun.
The included L1 charger draws about 1.4 KW.
But I also have OpenEVSE (being assembled) that can
be configured to draw 5a @ 120V is 600W.
Perhaps 4 panels could provide that (depending on losses).

With an appropriate magnetic mounting system,
4  200W panels could fit.   Then big question then would be
is storage of the panels between uses.  (I am not proposing
driving the panels back and forth).

Has anyone seen a project attempt this?

Thanks
Seth

PS - Good News - I am going camping in a State Forest,
and so far, I have verbal approval to plug in @ the office.
I need to do the math...drop off the gear, drive to office,
plug in, hike the Appalachian Trail a few hours, come back,
drive back to siterepeat tomorrow
There's also a DCQC not far from the Forest.
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Re: [EVDL] Level 1 charging solar

[Cor van de Water via EV]

What is your power consumption in the forest?
When I was camping, all we used were a few 12V lights of a few watts,
so the 50W solar panel and charge controller that I had brought were
actually overkill to keep the small 12V gel cells charged up.
What are you planning to run that you need to haul a 24kWh pack back and
forth?
I'd hate to have vacation and still spend most of the day near the
office only to fetch some juice to help me make it through the night?

I plug in at work while working - that is my only use of a 110 outlet
near the parking lot at work.

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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:27 PM
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Subject: [EVDL] Level 1 charging solar

Friends,

I saw a video of someone charging a Nissan Leaf
(presumably) using the provided Level 1 charger
and flexible solar panels attached to the car.
(presumably with an off-grid inverter).

The video had no information other than showing a
clever routing the EVSE through the absent DCQC knockout.
(I have the DCQC port, so even that's not helpful :-)


I had a related idea.
While I am at work, I presently don't have access to the grid.
But I do have access to the sun.
The included L1 charger draws about 1.4 KW.
But I also have OpenEVSE (being assembled) that can
be configured to draw 5a @ 120V is 600W.
Perhaps 4 panels could provide that (depending on losses).

With an appropriate magnetic mounting system,
4  200W panels could fit.   Then big question then would be
is storage of the panels between uses.  (I am not proposing
driving the panels back and forth).

Has anyone seen a project attempt this?

Thanks
Seth

PS - Good News - I am going camping in a State Forest,
and so far, I have verbal approval to plug in @ the office.
I need to do the math...drop off the gear, drive to office,
plug in, hike the Appalachian Trail a few hours, come back,
drive back to siterepeat tomorrow
There's also a DCQC not far from the Forest.
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[EVDL] Level 1 charging solar

[Seth Rothenberg via EV]

Friends,

I saw a video of someone charging a Nissan Leaf
(presumably) using the provided Level 1 charger
and flexible solar panels attached to the car.
(presumably with an off-grid inverter).

The video had no information other than showing a
clever routing the EVSE through the absent DCQC knockout.
(I have the DCQC port, so even that's not helpful :-)


I had a related idea.
While I am at work, I presently don't have access to the grid.
But I do have access to the sun.
The included L1 charger draws about 1.4 KW.
But I also have OpenEVSE (being assembled) that can
be configured to draw 5a @ 120V is 600W.
Perhaps 4 panels could provide that (depending on losses).

With an appropriate magnetic mounting system,
4  200W panels could fit.   Then big question then would be
is storage of the panels between uses.  (I am not proposing
driving the panels back and forth).

Has anyone seen a project attempt this?

Thanks
Seth

PS - Good News - I am going camping in a State Forest,
and so far, I have verbal approval to plug in @ the office.
I need to do the math...drop off the gear, drive to office,
plug in, hike the Appalachian Trail a few hours, come back,
drive back to siterepeat tomorrow
There's also a DCQC not far from the Forest.
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Re: [EVDL] Driving a Leaf from San Francisco to Santa Cruz and back.

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Willie,
Both Santa Cruz and San Francisco are close to sea level, the road that
Lawrence took is up the mountain and down the other side. Summit Road
(as the name suggests) is the highest point in the route, it goes down
on both sides although on the Silicon Valley side you still have a good
distance of Freeway before reaching San Francisco.
Here is location of the highest point in the route:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Summit+Rd+%26+Santa+Cruz+Hwy,+Los+Gato
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From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Willie2 via EV
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:01 AM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Driving a Leaf from San Francisco to Santa Cruz and
back.

On 06/16/2016 11:52 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> I work as a musician as some of you know and I am part of the Freeway
Philharmonic.  I have to play a choral concert in Santa Cruz this month.
I did my two ball routine which gives me on average 5miles per kw.  By
the time I hit the summit of the Santa Cruz mountain I was down to 20
miles and 4 to 5 bars.  When I got to Santa Cruz by coasting and using
Eco drive and drive as braking I was up to 43 miles and 4 bars.  When
driving home I was at 2 bars and 17 miles.  I account for the
difference: driving home at night, against the wind & it was colder. But
I accomplished a drive which I was told was impossible on one charge in
either direction because of the mountain.  Myth busted.  Lawrence Rhodes
>
Congrats. Lawrence!

For those of us not familiar with California, more route details would 
be interesting.  It is not so much the total up and down on a route but 
the difference in elevation between start and end of trip.  And, of 
course, the total road distance.  Can you provide those two pieces of
data?

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Re: [EVDL] Driving a Leaf from San Francisco to Santa Cruz and back.

[Willie2 via EV]

On 06/16/2016 11:52 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:

I work as a musician as some of you know and I am part of the Freeway Philharmonic. 
 I have to play a choral concert in Santa Cruz this month.  I did my two ball 
routine which gives me on average 5miles per kw.  By the time I hit the summit of 
the Santa Cruz mountain I was down to 20 miles and 4 to 5 bars.  When I got to 
Santa Cruz by coasting and using Eco drive and drive as braking I was up to 43 
miles and 4 bars.  When driving home I was at 2 bars and 17 miles.  I account for 
the difference: driving home at night, against the wind & it was colder. But I 
accomplished a drive which I was told was impossible on one charge in either 
direction because of the mountain.  Myth busted.  Lawrence Rhodes


Congrats. Lawrence!

For those of us not familiar with California, more route details would 
be interesting.  It is not so much the total up and down on a route but 
the difference in elevation between start and end of trip.  And, of 
course, the total road distance.  Can you provide those two pieces of data?


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[EVDL] Driving a Leaf from San Francisco to Santa Cruz and back.

[Lawrence Rhodes via EV]

I work as a musician as some of you know and I am part of the Freeway 
Philharmonic.  I have to play a choral concert in Santa Cruz this month.  I did 
my two ball routine which gives me on average 5miles per kw.  By the time I hit 
the summit of the Santa Cruz mountain I was down to 20 miles and 4 to 5 bars.  
When I got to Santa Cruz by coasting and using Eco drive and drive as braking I 
was up to 43 miles and 4 bars.  When driving home I was at 2 bars and 17 miles. 
 I account for the difference: driving home at night, against the wind & it was 
colder. But I accomplished a drive which I was told was impossible on one 
charge in either direction because of the mountain.  Myth busted.  Lawrence 
Rhodes
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[EVDL] EVent: EV Test drive @Low Carbon NK Partnership biz-breakfast.uk July 6

[brucedp5 via EV]

http://www.lincolnshireecho.co.uk/Test-drive-electric-car-business-breakfast-event/story-29365848-detail/story.html
Test drive electric car at business breakfast event
June 06, 2016  SRussellTG

[image  
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Businesses can find out how to reduce their carbon footprint at business
breakfast event
]

Businesses can find out how to become low carbon at a breakfast network
event and even text drive an electric car.

The Low Carbon NK Partnership business breakfast on July 6 is will feature a
variety of guest speakers on topics such as support to increase energy
efficiency and how electric and hybrid vehicles can bring savings on tax,
fuel and emissions.

Hosted by Siemens, Adrian Pick, environment, health and safety officer will
give an overview on how they built their premises as a facility rated as
excellent in terms of environmental impact as well as their future plans for
sustainability projects.

Representatives of Sopers BMW and Marshall Nissan of Lincoln will 
provide
support and information on grants and vehicle loans available to businesses
considering making the switch to plug-in cars.

There will be the chance to try driving the Nissan Leaf Tekna electric car,
a Nissan e-nv200 electric panel van and the BMW i3 [EV] and BMW hybrid i8.

More than 50 businesses have signed up to the Low Carbon NK charter and it
is hoped more will follow suit at the event.

For more information about the Low Carbon NK business breakfast, or to
register an interest in attending, please email 
sustainnk @n-kesteven.gov.uk
[© 2016 Local World]
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http://www.sleafordtarget.co.uk/Test-drive-electric-car-business-breakfast-event/story-29365848-detail/story.html
Test drive electric car at business breakfast event
June 06, 2016



https://www.n-kesteven.gov.uk/your-council/council-news/drive-the-future/
Businesses invited to drive the future
A special breakfast will give businesses, organisations and communities in
North Kesteven the chance to find out how to become more energy efficient
and save money, with ... opportunity to take part in an electric car ...
driving experience ...
...
http://www.lowcarbonsouthwest.co.uk/events/business-breakfasts
 ... Low Carbon Business Breakfasts - Upcoming Dates for 2016 ...
Tuesday 21st June - Bristol, Engine Shed
Tuesday 19th July - Bath ...




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[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20160616

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http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-baicic-com-wants-to-produce-Electric-cars-in-Mexico-td4682597.html
EVLN: baicic.com wants to produce Electric cars in Mexico
The Chinese firm BAIC Motor Corporation has begun selling some of its models
in the Mexican market, and is considering construction of a ...

http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-9-1M-CA-Grant-for-27-BYD-Electric-Trucks-td4682598.html
EVLN:  $9.1M CA-Grant for 27 BYD Electric Trucks
How are BYD trucks compared to Isuzus?(same tonnage capacity range) Isuzu
electric trucks?

http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Juneau-AK-is-better-suited-for-EVs-than-other-communities-td4682599.html
EVLN: Juneau-AK is better suited for EVs than other communities
Juneau charges ahead with electric vehicles
The city is projected to double the number of electric vehicles on the
streets by the end of the year.

http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-J-B-Straubel-gt-Tesla-s-Conception-and-his-StanfordU-Solar-Car-Role-td4682600.html
EVLN: J.B.Straubel> Tesla's Conception, his StanfordU’s Solar Car Role
Tesla Co-Founder J.B. Straubel Explains How Tesla was Conceived, ...
Stanford Solar Car That J.B. Straubel's Team Built And Raced ...




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[EVDL] EVLN: baicic.com wants to produce EVs in Mexico

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http://cleantechnica.com/2016/06/12/chinas-baic-may-produce-electric-cars-mexico/
China’s BAIC May Produce Electric Cars In Mexico
June 12th, 2016  James Ayre  ht2 RobStark

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BAIC E150 EV
] 

The Chinese firm BAIC Motor Corporation has begun selling some of its models
in the Mexican market, and is considering construction of a position plant
in the country, according to recent reports.

The theoretical plant would, in addition to internal combustion engine (ICE)
vehicles, also produce electric vehicles (EVs), going by a recent interview
that the BAIC Vice President Wei Huacheng gave.

The prominent Chinese firm is now aiming for at least 5,000 vehicle sales a
year in Mexico by the year 2018. No details have been revealed yet about the
timeline for a possible production plant, so it remains unclear how future
sales could be impacted by a possible plant.

Auto News provides more:
BAIC, the unit of Beijing Automotive Group Company, joins a host of
international automakers who have set up operations in Mexico to access auto
markets in the US and Latin America. It sold its first car in Mexico on
Thursday.

“Mexico … is a very important part (of our) long-term vision,” Wei said
through a translator.

The Chinese company said it would initially sell a sedan and smaller-size
SUV at six dealerships in Mexico, with three additional models planned to
hit the market by the end of the year. It has tied up with local retailer
Grupo Picacho. BAIC is the only Chinese automaker in the Mexican market
after Chinese state-owned carmaker FAW left in 2009.

Interesting news. It appears that China may very well beat
better-established auto-manufacturing countries to the release of a
good-selling EV in the Mexican market.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAIC_Group‎
BAIC Group is a Chinese state-owned enterprise and holding company of
several automobile and machine manufacturers, located in Beijing, China. Its
principal subsidiaries include the passenger car maker BAIC Motor, the
military vehicle and SUV maker BAW ...
...
http://chinaautoweb.com/car-models/baic-e150-ev/
The E150 EV was replaced by BAIC EV200 in 2014 r:140km ts:125kph
...
[dated]
http://autonews.gasgoo.com/china-news/baic-e150-ev-to-make-market-debut-by-end-of-2012-120531.shtml
BAIC E150 EV to make market debut by end of 2012, eligible for savings of
12 yuan
May 31, 2012
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