Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Salt bath to increase EV battery pack range
On 18 Jun 2016 at 20:52, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > So if a cell (CSIRO's cell) can be produced without the above > encumbrances, it would increase the energy capacity of an EV battery > substantially and reduce range anxiety. > Here's another possible solution to the dendrite problem. http://news.cornell.edu/stories/2016/02/room-temperature-lithium-metal- battery-closer-reality https://v.gd/OonDxm Bruce may have posted this item already, although I didn't find it in the archive. I wonder how much more a lithium metal battery for an EV would cost per kWh - not just to amortize the development costs, but for raw materials. One of the other problems to be solved would be how to ensure the safety of lithium metal in a collision. It's highly reactive stuff, very eager to combine with many gases (including the oxygen in the air) and water. You don't try to put out a lithium fire with a fire hose! It can do nasty things to your skin with just a little perspiration. Even if the problems are all couquered, I don't expect to see lithium metal batteries available in, say, 2020 EVs. The first experimental lithium ion batteries were developed in 1980, IIRC. The first commercial lithium ion battery was released 11 years later. LiIon didn't become all that common in (expensive) portable electronic gadgets until about the mid-1990s. FWIW, the first lithium-ion-powered EV I know of was the Altra EV, a rather sizable wagon based on a Japanese-market Nissan. Nissan built 200 of them between 1997 and 2001. They used Sony lithium-cobalt and Hitachi lithium- manganese modules. The range was stated as "up to" 120-140 miles, with 70- 100 miles considered more practical. I never saw a purchase price for an Altra. AFAIK they were leased, not sold, mostly to public utilities. Still, I wonder if any were sold and might still be floating around. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] test message
Bruce, Your test message went through. Alan Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid On Jun 18, 2016 8:58 PM, Bruce Hecht via EV wrote: test --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160618/bef8b574/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160619/e7350211/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] test message
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[EVDL] NASA electric plane
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Salt bath to increase EV battery pack range
ew process and techniques, and is currently searching for commercial collaborators to assist in commercial development of the technology. [© GIZMAG 2016] ... http://www.csiro.au/en/News/News-releases/2016/Salt-baths-boost-next-gen-batteries-for-electric-cars Salt baths boost next gen batteries for electric cars 14 June 2016 ... http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2016/160613/ncomms11794/full/ncomms11794.html Stabilizing lithium metal using ionic liquids for long-lived batteries 13 June 2016 For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/evln/ {brucedp.150m.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Salt-bath-to-increase-EV-battery-pack-range-tp4682654.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edison <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html> A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 585-6737 Land (919) 576-0824 <https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones> Mobile and Google Phone michael.e.r...@gmail.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160618/dadf7b16/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Prius Engine rebuilt?
I second Cor on finding a used engine out of a lower mile wreck. I encouraged some friends to do just that when their 2010 Prius engine failed. That story began with knocking (only some of the time and only when moderately or heavily loaded) somewhere 170-180k. This was traced to a cracked spark plug, which was replaced, but then the replacement also cracked after a short time. Additional testing showed that coolant was leaking into at least one cylinder (head gasket issue), and may have caused the cracked spark plugs. It finally threw a rod through the block just after passing 200k. Not sure why the engine developed the head gasket issue. I heard that the car experienced a severe engine oil overfill around 150-160k. Simultaneous with the above, the 12v battery was found to be weak after 6 years of use. The car experienced other misc issues until that was replaced, leaving only the engine issue. It is back on the road again with a young 20k mile engine and new brakes/rotors. The main pack and electric transaxle are still original. On June 17, 2016 8:01:01 PM CDT, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: >David, >End 2012 I bought a 2002 Prius which did not run. >I was hoping for a simple repair (charge Hybrid battery and go again) >but it turned out that the previous owner apparently "forgot" oil >changes >for a long time and after charging both batteries, it still would not >turn over most of the time, occasionally it would go with a very bad >knock. > >Long story short - I bought a low-mileage engine+transaxle out of a >rollover wreck and installed that in the car. It is working like a >charm. >I used the good transaxle from what I swapped out to harvest the MG2 >out >of >to repair someone else's 2001 that had a burned stator winding on their >MG2, >a known problem of the 2001 year. > >So, try to find out if it is an engine problem or a motor (transaxle) >problem, buy a used engine or transaxle from a dismantler and install >it, >that will likely come out way cheaper than a brand new one, it is a >used >car already so why not go for a used part and they hardly ever fail >anyway, so the risk is extremely low. > >That would be my approach, I was actually looking at a 2005 with a bad >knock last week. > >NOTE that the engines are virtually identical from 2001 - 2009 model >years. > >Cor van de Water >Chief Scientist >Proxim Wireless > >office +1 408 383 7626Skype: cor_van_de_water >XoIP +31 87 784 1130private: cvandewater.info > >http://www.proxim.com > >This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential >and >proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you >received >this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any >unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of >this message is prohibited. > > >-Original Message- >From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of David Chapman >via EV >Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 5:16 PM >To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List >Subject: [EVDL] Prius Engine rebuilt? > >I have a friend that has a 2008 Prius, she just called me and told me >that she took it in to the local Toyota garage that specializes in >Prius >for service. Apparently they just called and told her that she needs a >brand new engine and it would cost $4,700. ?? Sounds kinda odd and >frankly rather cheap for a new ICE, I am wondering if they mean a >motor. >Anyone here replace the ICE section on a Prius yet? Vehicle still seems >to run OK despite having 225K on it. Any input appreciated. Dach. >-- next part -- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: ><http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160618/2cd9 >1e9b/attachment.htm> >___ >UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ >Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA >(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > >___ >UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ >Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA >(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160618/00091f08/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Salt bath to increase EV battery pack range
> > > > > For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: > http://evdl.org/evln/ > > > {brucedp.150m.com} > > -- > View this message in context: > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Salt-bath-to-increase-EV-battery-pack-range-tp4682654.html > Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edison <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html> A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 585-6737 Land (919) 576-0824 <https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones> Mobile and Google Phone michael.e.r...@gmail.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160618/dadf7b16/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] L2 across USA tripper might want to rethink his 2nd trip EV ...
On Fri Jun 17 22:46:55 PDT 2016 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >I still would like a 10kW on board charger with an in-car way to program >the max current draw from the wall rather than just rely on the EVSE for >control. So, like the 12KW PFC-50 I have in my truck? :-) -- Worlds only All Electric F-250 truck! http://john.casadelgato.com/Electric-Vehicles/1995-Ford-F-250 ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Prius Engine rebuilt?
I can buy a racing engine for about 2X to 4X that price so that price seems about right to me. And a new ICE engine at 225k miles doesn't sound unreasonable either. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 17, 2016, at 7:16 PM, David Chapman via EV wrote: > > I have a friend that has a 2008 Prius, she just called me and told me that > she took it in to the local Toyota garage that specializes in Prius for > service. Apparently they just called and told her that she needs a brand new > engine and it would cost $4,700. ?? Sounds kinda odd and frankly rather cheap > for a new ICE, I am wondering if they mean a motor. Anyone here replace the > ICE section on a Prius yet? Vehicle still seems to run OK despite having 225K > on it. Any input appreciated. Dach. > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160618/2cd91e9b/attachment.htm> > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EV-tourism charging @Half Moon Bay: Hwy 1 EV trip
[ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Driving-a-Leaf-from-San-Francisco-to-Santa-Cruz-and-back-tp4682604p4682638.html ] >While driving Highway 1 may have no pass it has several big hills. I'm not sure the up and down would match the pass but I'd have to drive it and find out. At night there is a head wind going North. Not sure I have the cojones to try it not to mention a huge climb out of Pacifica.< The 1000' climb near Pacifica is about half of what you already did getting to and from Santa Cruz, so it should not be a problem for your Leaf. As you said, doing a trial run to see what you can do, IMO is a good idea. With the taking of Hwy 1 to get to Santa Cruz (78mi) sometime in the future being your fact finding goal, perhaps a half-way jaunt would be first step. Looking at a map https://goo.gl/maps/iProhkKC6VS2 From SF to Santa Cruz via Hwy 1 is 49mi. From SF to Half Moon Bay (HMB) is 30mi. HMB has a public EVSE: http://api.plugshare.com/view/location/60831 Half Moon Bay City Hall PlugScore 10.0 [very good] Ports 2 EV Plug (J1772)s EV Plug (J1772) ChargePoint 7.2kw Address 714 Kelly Ave Half Moon Bay, CA 94019 Cost $1/ hr [charging] + $1 parking [read the driver's comments on this EVSE] While your 75+mi range may not 'need' a charge at the 30mi point to get back home, IMO it would be a good experience to use that EVSE as well as reduce any concerns/angst some might have. If you left your SF house charged and drove Hwy 1 south to HMB and plugged in, you could spend a couple hours there charging, walking around, and enjoy the town. This might even be a good way to include/bring-along that someone special to enjoy it together. After you return home you would have experienced EV-tourism (which is similar to eco-tourism). I'll assume you already carry a Chargepoint rfid card with you encase of emergencies as their brand of public EVSE is the most prevalent. But if you don't, you can still pay for a charge using an app or by calling them: http://www.chargepoint.com/faq/ ... You can easily start a session with your ChargePoint card, using the ChargePoint mobile app, with an RFID credit card or by calling driver support at 888-758-4389. The 888 number is listed on each ChargePoint station and on the back of your ChargePoint card. You may want to install their free app as well as Plugshare.com 's on your mobile: http://www.chargepoint.com/mobile http://www.plugshare.com/ (click 'Mobile' at the bottom of the page) (HMB history) Before the Spanish, the Ohlone (Costanoans) were 20,000+ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohlone_people Afterward below 3000. The missions changed the area for rural agriculture use, primarily cattle, horses, and oxen. Later being a fishing port town, the population was diverse with the growth from the CA gold rush https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half_Moon_Bay,_California#History Regular stagecoach service served the communities ... Spaniard Estanislao Zaballa laid out the streets and blocks of Spanishtown (HMB) in 1863 http://www.visithalfmoonbay.org/half-moon-bay-california-history-culture/ The 1906 earthquake destroyed adobe (mud-brick) and (fired-clay) brick buildings in Half Moon Bay. Only the flexible wooden homes and shops survived the quake, and many of those early wooden structures still remain. http://www.hmbreview.com/community/earthquake-shook-half-moon-bay-in/article_a1625536-ab64-11e1-93f9-0019bb2963f4.html Using the map: https://goo.gl/maps/a5c73YNuxNm There is plenty to see and do within walking distance: -Spanish-town (one of HMB's former names) museum -HMB and also Moonside bakeries -A HMB winery tasting (+more) I have not been at HMB in over a year, but when I did I liked to visit: http://www.sanbenitohouse.com/the-deli/ The little building off to the side of the main San Benito House (bar, grill, gallery, +ritzy) Look at the image from the above side to see their menu: http://www.sanbenitohouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/316_450_253.jpg The meats are not much to speak of, but that area has nice freshly grown veggies (the foggy temperate coastal weather is good for their agriculture). That deli's biggest selling point is their moist and warm from the oven, inch-thick sliced free-form-loaf-bread. It looks similar to http://www.thefreshloaf.com/files/20050821italianbreadwithlasagna.jpg I usually am quite satisfied with eating only half of the large thick sandwich, and saving the rest for later (or sharing the other half with someone). Afterward you could stroll to a coffee/chai houses or cafe' (to also get your WiFi fix) http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=Free+Wifi&find_loc=Half+Moon+Bay,+CA If you time it right, you could visit a local HMB farm http://www.yelp.com/biz/bobs-vegetable-stand-and-pumpkin-farm-half-moon-bay and miss the stampede. In October, the area goes pumpkin crazy http://cdn.onlyinyourstate.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/12-half-moon-bay-pumpkin-festival-700x465.jpg The second weekend in Octo
[EVDL] Couple+Dog Are Tesla-X Driving Across Canada Towing A Trailer W/ PVs
'Tesla teams up with Nordstrom to sell Model X EVs' [ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/10k-km-Tesla-X-trailer-tow-trip-victoriabc-ca-to-stjohns-ca-Newfoundland-tp4682549.html 10k-km Tesla-X trailer-tow trip> victoriabc.ca to stjohns.ca Newfoundland Jun 12 2016 ] http://www.autoevolution.com/news/couple-and-their-dog-are-driving-across-canada-in-a-model-x-and-a-solar-trailer-108545.html Couple and Their Dog Are Driving Across Canada in a Model X and a Solar Trailer 15TH JUNE 2016 VLAD MITRACHE [image http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/couple-and-their-dog-are-driving-across-canada-in-a-model-x-and-a-solar-trailer-108545_1.jpg (Couple and Their Dog in a Model X and a Solar Trailer) ] If there was ever a definition of the modern hippy, then this must be it: a husband, his wife, and their dog driving across a great country for no particular reason in an electric car towing a trailer with solar panels on top. It doesn't get any more hip than this. And still, wouldn't you just love if you could drop everything you were doing right now and swap places with them? Going on a 6,000+ miles (10,000 km) road trip with no time pressure is probably the best way to get to know a country. After all, some people even wrote books about it after similar experiences - see Ilf and Petrov's "Little Golden America." And while they don't plan to launch themselves into a career in literature, these two will also document their journey on a blog and social media. Like all big ideas, it all started differently. Silke Sommerfeld and Rolf Oetter have been planning a trip across Canada for over ten years, but never found the time to do it. Initially, they were supposed to do it in a motor home, but after acquiring their Model X, leaving a trail of pollution behind just didn't seem right to them anymore. So Rolf, a German engineer, set to modify the trailer for the long trip. Since camping spots only come with one plug, and they would need it for the car, the trailer had to be energy self-sufficient. By installing 800 watts of solar panels and a little over five-kilowatt hours worth of lithium ion batteries, he not only achieved that, but also turned the trailer into an external power source for the car, capable of delivering between 30 to 40 kilometers of extra range. The couple estimate their journey will take them about three months, but that's only because they plan to make the most of it and not rush it in any way. Tesla is in no way involved in their endeavor, and they make it very clear that they want to promote electric cars in general, not one brand in particular. "This trip is our idea," says Silke, talking to Vancouver Island News. "All we want is to raise awareness and bring electric cars closer to as many people as possible." You can follow Silke and Rolf's progress on their Facebook page [ https://www.facebook.com/teslax.canada.5/timeline ] where they are also more than happy to answer any questions. [© autoevolution.com] http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/14/tesla-teams-up-with-nordstrom-to-sell-model-x.html Tesla teams up with Nordstrom to sell Model X 14TH JUNE 2016 For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/evln/ {brucedp.150m.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Couple-Dog-Are-Tesla-X-Driving-Across-Canada-Towing-A-Trailer-W-PVs-tp4682656.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20160618
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Caltech-Formula-SAE-Electric-car-to-go-0-to-60-in-under-4s-td4682650.html EVLN: Caltech Formula SAE Electric car to go 0 to 60 in under 4s Can this Caltech electric car go 0 to 60 in under 4 seconds? They are about to find out. Members of the Caltech Racing team work on an electric Formula ... http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Tesla-S-Obliterates-600CC-Sportbike-in-Impromptu-Street-Drag-Race-v-td4682651.html EVLN: Tesla-S Obliterates 600CC Sportbike in Impromptu Street Drag Race (v) If seeing cars that were designed for speed get smacked by a luxurious four-door sedan in drag races weren't so damn satisfying, we probably ... http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Battery-salt-bath-to-increase-EV-pack-range-td4682652.html EVLN: Battery salt bath to increase EV-pack range Stabilizing lithium metal using ionic liquids for long-lived batteries http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Fuller-s-Tesla-S-P90D-EV-Aims-For-Pikes-Peak-Record-td4682653.html EVLN: Fuller's Tesla-S P90D EV Aims For Pikes Peak Record Where Eagles Fear to Tread, Blake Fuller and His Tesla Model S Gun for a record in the Electric ... One can tell how new the class for Production EV happens to be by how few modification allowances are within this class ... http://evdl.org/evln/ For all EVLN EV-newswire posts {brucedp.150m.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-EV-newswire-posts-for-20160618-tp4682655.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: Salt bath to increase EV battery pack range
[ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Battery-salt-bath-to-increase-EV-pack-range-td4682652.html ] http://www.gizmag.com/battery-electrode-lithium-salt-csiro-qut-rmit/43825/ A salty battery bath to combat EV range anxiety June 14, 2016 Colin Jeffrey [images http://img-2.gizmag.com/salt-bath-electrodes-3.jpg?auto=format%2Ccompress&ch=Width%2CDPR&fit=crop&h=394&q=60&rect=0%2C88%2C1622%2C913&w=700&s=1d425dd0798d6588ecf91ef2021c0c1b Scientists from the CSIRO, working jointly with researchers from RMIT University and QUT, have created a salt bath pre-process that promises to vastly improve lithium-based battery life and performance (Credit: CSIRO) http://img.gizmag.com/salt-bath-electrodes-2.jpg?auto=format%2Ccompress&ch=Width%2CDPR&fit=max&h=700&q=60&w=700&s=64937f844f66deecd7f0a4cdd4ed9236 ] The degradation of electrodes in lithium-based batteries has been a major inhibitor to their operating life, particularly when dendrites "growing" from these corroding electrodes short-circuit in the electrolyte. Australian researchers have found that pre-treating lithium electrodes in a special salt bath decreases the breakdown of the electrodes and boosts performance and battery life so markedly it could bring an end to range anxiety for drivers of electric vehicles. Scientists from the CSIRO, working jointly with researchers from RMIT University and the Queensland University of Technology (QUT), claim that their pre-treating technique is so efficient that even after 1,000 charge/discharge cycles, their prototype retains greater than 99.5 percent Coulombic efficiency, which is a measure of the difference between the incoming and outgoing charges in a battery as it cycles through charging. The researchers believe that their new process will help bring on the development of super-efficient energy storage methods that will completely negate battery range anxiety that is a major impediment for the electric car industry today. "Our research has shown by pre-treating lithium metal electrodes, we can create batteries with charge efficiency that greatly exceeds standard lithium batteries," said CSIRO battery researcher Dr Adam Best. "The pre-treatment reduces the breakdown of electrolytes during operation, which is what determines the battery's increased performance and lifetime." By immersing lithium metal electrodes in an electrolyte bath containing a mixture of the lithium salts Lithium bis(fluorosulfonyl)imide (LiFSI) and lithium hexafluorophosphate (LiPF6) and the ionic liquid 1-Methyl-1-propylpyrrolidinium chloride (C3mpyr), the pre-treatment covers the surface of the electrode with a protective film that is so efficient that even after more than 2,500 hours of battery cycling, no evidence of any dendrite formation was found. Whilst a myriad other methods have been researched on eliminating dendrite formation from the degradation of lithium battery electrodes, including coating them with carbon nanospheres and changing the composition of the electrolyte in which they are immersed, this latest technology has shown the largest number of charge/discharge cyclic efficiency with absolutely no dendrite formation visible. Other advantages of this process include the ability for treated batteries to sit on the shelf for up to a year without their performance being affected, and that the techniques are simple and easy to adopt in current battery manufacturing methods. The CSIRO holds patents to the electrolyte salt solutions, which come in a variety of different chemical compositions. The research team is now intent on creating and evolving batteries based on the new process and techniques, and is currently searching for commercial collaborators to assist in commercial development of the technology. [© GIZMAG 2016] ... http://www.csiro.au/en/News/News-releases/2016/Salt-baths-boost-next-gen-batteries-for-electric-cars Salt baths boost next gen batteries for electric cars 14 June 2016 ... http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2016/160613/ncomms11794/full/ncomms11794.html Stabilizing lithium metal using ionic liquids for long-lived batteries 13 June 2016 For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/evln/ {brucedp.150m.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Salt-bath-to-increase-EV-battery-pack-range-tp4682654.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] L2 across USA tripper might want to rethink his 2nd trip EV ...
Wow. I used to think that Idaho has a dearth of electric vehicles. In Boise, we have around a dozen or so Tesla Model S. The first Model X I know of is coming to town this weekend. I see a Tesla on the road every few weeks (2 this week). Usually, I see Leaf more often than that. I seem to see Volt less often than Leaf. Since we don't have state incentives and aren't a compliance state, it is pretty unusual to see anything else. I have seen a BMW i3 once. Luckily, with the growth in vehicles, Tesla decided to put SuperCharger stations along the local Interstate (I84). That has really helped EV travel in the area for owners. Mike On June 17, 2016 10:24:24 AM MDT, Lee Hart via EV wrote: >EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: >> You west coast folks with EVs everywhere may not know what it's like >here in >> the midwest. Around here, owning ANY kind of EV is unusual and draws >notice. >> Here in NE Ohio, I may see a Leaf a few times a YEAR. I have yet to >see a >> Tesla on the road or in a parking lot. > >I second that. Here in the middle of Minnesota, in the past 20 years >I've seen exactly TWO electric cars on the road (besides my own). One >was a 1988 Soleq (a converted Ford Escort), and the other was a 2013 >Leaf. > >Now if I drive into the Twin Cities (Minneapolis / St. Paul), I'll see >more. But that's to be expected, as I'm going to an EV club meeting. >:-) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)