Re: [EVDL] Seeking charger for 180VDC 56-cell LiFePO4 pack
Thanks for providing more details.
I will makes some assumptions:
-since the old 3kW charger would likely suite your power and cost needs,
that is your goal (you don't need that much, and saving on cost is good).
-your BMS is likely the Lithiumate Lite model
-your .ch free web email domain tells me you are in or near Europe, so
sourcing EV components closer to home would serve you better, but further
away is not out of the question (if push comes to shove).
Rather than looking at all the chargers available, I started my research
from your BMS selection
http://elithion.com/applications.php?app=0
http://lite.elithion.com/pdf/Lithiumate_Lite_Installation_Manual.pdf
http://liionbms.com/php/charger_options.php
is a nice page showing all the chargers compatible with your BMS. However I
found some typos and a dead link (I have sent an email to Davide), so you
will have to work a little to get what you need.
Using the criteria of 3kW 180V, I found a couple more links for you to
explore:
http://delphi.com/manufacturers/auto/hevevproducts/batterychargers/univ_ob_bc/
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Re: [EVDL] Wanted: charger for 180VDC pack (Brusa NLG511 equivalent)
On 24 Aug 2015 at 1:13, brucedp5 via EV wrote: Why a discontinued charger that will be hard to get support or repaired? I'm not the original poster, but I can give you one reason. Regardless of generation, Brusa makes (and has made for years) the most flexible, smartest chargers I've ever seen. More importantly, they are NOT locked down by default. Some EV chargers are quite smart, but they're deliberately locked by their manufacturers, either into one fixed profile or into a list of unmodifiable selectable ones. These EV chargers aren't really meant for EV hobbyists who like to tweak and change things. They're aimed at manufacturers who don't want the owners tinkering - ever. Other chargers - including some fairly popular with EV hobbyists - are open, but just aren't very smart and/or programmable. Brusa chargers are 100% user programmable. They have what amounts to a programming language. The factory provides full documentation. You can use Brusa's premade profiles as-is, modify one, or write your own from scratch. If you think your finishing voltage or current is too high, you can lower it. If you'd like to try dv/dt, you can. If you want to change your battery voltage (over a wide range), that's easy to do. Brusa's main downside is that they are rather expensive chargers in terms of dollars per watt. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to evpost and etpost addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Same reporter bringing both anti e-Bike articles, was: Bu's e-wheely bad idea
At times, our news media do not carry a story to inform us, but to influence politics by setting a desired state of mind by the original writers of an article, so I am always interested *who* wrote a certain piece and *what* message do they want to convey, if possible I like to even figure out *why*. I remembered that early early July the discussion was about NYC have an archaic law that banned any and all e-Bikes and e-scooters, the only things on two wheels that are allowed on their streets are either the old (non-assist) bicycle, or a full motorcycle. This means that they law is giving serious trouble to the current wave of new bicycles, since it is almost impossible to buy a good bike without it having electric assist. When I walk into a bike shop in The Netherlands, the only bikes you will find on display are the e-Bikes. Asking for a non-assist bike is like asking for a steam-powered car or a record player. So, it appears that NYC has some catching-up to do, but I cannot escape the thought that someone thought it was a great idea to see if he could swing public opinion against e-bikes (since the vast majority of people on the road in the USA have no clue about bicycles other than that they once used them when they were young and it is too dangerous now and they are always in the way when you see them) since it is easy to vilify them. Then they came across this Chinese man who was delivering his daily round but got busted by police, so they make up a nice story (oh no, do they do that? Yep, they do) about him not only going against traffic (which a certain percentage of ordinary bikers do every day) but also weaving through traffic in a tunnel, endangering everyone, and they made it Big News. Of course, those are just impressions from my more cynical side, but I wonder why else would this same reporter do this piece, again attacking e-bikes in NYC? I could be totally off and it could be pure coincidence, but for some reason those coincidences always set off a red flag in my mind. I have seen this too often. So, don't give too much credit to this story until you have heard the other side. I would not be surprised if Bu was riding on the bike lane (in the wrong direction maybe but that happens a lot, especially if you need to make two left turns on bike and you do not want to cross traffic twice) and he simply had to swerve around an illegally stopped car or debris in the road (that often collects in the lane with the lightest traffic - the bike lane) which might have caused someone in a car to have to slow down for him and then he got busted with this sensationalist story... I can't escape the thought... Anyway, I think we have covered just about everything on e-Bikes, so it may be time to wind it down. Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com Email: cwa...@proxim.comPrivate: http://www.cvandewater.info Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP: +31877841130 Tel: +1 408 383 7626Tel: +91 (040)23117400 x203 -Original Message- From: EV on behalf of brucedp5 via EV Sent: Sat 8/22/2015 12:59 AM To: ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: [EVDL] Bu's e-wheely bad idea weaving-recklessly the wrongway HTdelivery http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/man-bike-traffic-holland-tunnel-article-1.2326089 Deliveryman on electric bike arrested after heading into Holland Tunnel against traffic BY Thomas Tracy / August 14, 2015 [images / Port Authority Police Department http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2326088.1439577248!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_400/tunnel15n-2-web.jpg (mugshot) Yongshun Bu, 44, was arrested by the Port Authority Police when he rode an electric scooter into the westbound Holland Tunnel, weaving against traffic http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2326087.1439577247!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_635/tunnel15n-1-web.jpg Bu was riding this electric bike through the tunnel, going against traffic. He was making an early morning food delivery, according to law enforcement sources. ] This was a wheely bad idea. A deliveryman on an electric bicycle was arrested after he zipped into the Holland Tunnel against traffic and veered around oncoming cars as he made his way across the Hudson River span, officials said Friday. Yongshun Bu, 44, and his motorized bike entered the westbound lane at the Manhattan end of the tunnel at 7 p.m. Thursday and was seen recklessly riding around traffic, ignoring signs and verbal instructions to pull over, according to Port Authority spokesman Joe Pentangelo. Bu, who was delivering Chinese food according to law enforcement sources, was ultimately grabbed about 20 yards into the tunnel and charged with criminal trespass. His wrong-way trip through the tunnel caused a short traffic disruption, but no one was hurt, officials said. [© 2015 NYDailyNews.com]
Re: [EVDL] Couple needed medical treatment from electric bicyclefire Gosport.uk
Once upon a time, TV-caused fires were big news and it was true,
due to the mass adoption of TVs, several decades ago, there were
multiple fires each day caused by TVs, so it was prudent to report
about them.
There are plenty fires caused by electrical appliances and I don't see
why an e-Bike would be much different.
Granted, the batteries can add a little to the fire, but so would the
batteries of a laptop during a fire, so I do not see why you would
not try to put it out yourself, the man probably saved his house
from much more extensive damage than just needing to replace
part of the floor and getting some smoke inhaled that he was
checked up for (I don't see any medical treatment, despite the
claim in the title of the piece)
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] Couple needed medical treatment from electric bicyclefire
Gosport.uk
A li ion battery fire is not an electrical fire. And yes you want to get the
heat out so water works well.
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http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/newS/13600986.Couple_injured_after_electric_bike_sparks_fire_at_Hampshire_home/
A couple needed treatment after an electric bicycle caught fire at their
home in Gosport last night
Maxwell Kusi-Obodum 17 August 2015
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A couple needed treatment after an electric bicycle caught fire at their
home in Gosport last night
Couple injured after electric bike sparks fire at Hampshire home
A MARRIED couple needed medical treatment when an electric bicycle caught
fire in their Hampshire home in the early hours of today.
The pair awoke to find the bike burning in the front room of their terraced
house in Kealy Road, Gosport, at 12.15am.
The man, believed to be in his early 30s tried to tackle the flames by
throwing water over the bike which was being charged at an electrical point
at the time.
Crews from Gosport fire station arrived to find the flames already out.
They gave oxygen to the man and his wife, believed to be in her late 20s,
who were suffering from smoke inhalation.
An ambulance was called but the couple did not need hospital treatment.
The bike was completely destroyed and the fire caused 20 per cent damage to
the floor and severe smoke damage to the room.
Watch-manager Steve Bint reminded people not to fight electrical fires with
water and added: People shouldn't attempt to put it out. If it is safe to
do so people should close the door get out and call us.
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Re: [EVDL] Same reporter bringing both anti e-Bike articles, was: Bu's e-wheely bad idea
,
was ultimately grabbed about 20 yards into the tunnel and charged with
criminal trespass.
His wrong-way trip through the tunnel caused a short traffic disruption,
but no one was hurt, officials said.
[© 2015 NYDailyNews.com]
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Food-Delivery-Cyclist-Rushes-Wrong-Way-Through-Holland-Tunnel-Cops-321972742.html
Food Delivery Cyclist Rushes Wrong Way Through Holland Tunnel: Cops
Aug 15, 2015
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A restaurant delivery person apparently disappointed hungry customers after
being arrested by police who said he was weaving through oncoming traffic
in
the wrong lane of the Holland Tunnel.
Yongshun Bu, 44, recklessly dodged oncoming traffic, ignored signs and
verbal instructions to stop while making a food delivery Friday evening on
an electric-powered bicycle, Port Authority police said Saturday.
Bu was apprehended at the tunnel exit and charged with criminal trespass,
police said.
There was no information as to whether Bu had obtained a lawyer who could
comment on the charge.
[© nydailynews.com]
http://cliffviewpilot.com/manhattan-deliveryman-caught-riding-electric-bicycle-through-holland-tunnel/
Manhattan deliveryman caught riding electric bicycle through Holland Tunnel
by: Jerry DeMarco August 14, 2015
BEYOND BERGEN: A lower Manhattan deliveryman rode an electric bicycle
through the Holland Tunnel last night, skirting traffic and ignoring orders
to stop, before officers grabbed him on the New Jersey tube.
Yongshun Bu, 44, was delivering food when he recklessly drove through the
tunnel around 7 p.m., the authority's Joseph Pentangelo told CLIFFVIEW
PILOT.
Port Authority tunnel and bridge agents combined with PAPD officers to take
him into custody just inside the exit, he said.
The tunnel was cleared and checked for safety reasons, Pentangelo said.
[© 2015 Cliffview Pilot]
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2015/08/lost_deliveryman_rides_wrong-way_into_holland_tunnel_officials_say.html
Lost deliveryman rides wrong-way into Holland Tunnel, officials say
By Noah Cohen | August 15, 2015
NEW YORK - A Chinese food deliveryman trying to bring an order to a
Manhattan address got lost, and ended up riding his electric-powered
bicycle
into oncoming traffic at the Holland Tunnel before he was arrested,
officials and reports said Friday.
Yongshun Bu, 44, piloted the bike around traffic coming from Jersey City,
ignoring signs and instructions to stop Thursday night, according to Port
Authority police spokesman Joe Pentangelo.
Workers noticed the wayward biker and waved their hands to stop him, a
source told The New York Post. Bu, however, was undeterred.
Officials slowed traffic on the New Jersey side before Port Authority
Police
officer Eric Brozek caught up to Bu about 100 yards into the tube,
according
to the newspaper. Police deployed a dog to sniff for explosives as a
precaution after the incident.
The spokesman said Bu was charged with criminal trespass.
[© 2015 New Jersey On-Line]
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Re: [EVDL] Bu's e-wheely bad idea weaving-recklessly the wrongway HT delivery
apparently disappointed hungry customers
after
being arrested by police who said he was weaving through oncoming
traffic in
the wrong lane of the Holland Tunnel.
Yongshun Bu, 44, recklessly dodged oncoming traffic, ignored signs and
verbal instructions to stop while making a food delivery Friday
evening on
an electric-powered bicycle, Port Authority police said Saturday.
Bu was apprehended at the tunnel exit and charged with criminal
trespass,
police said.
There was no information as to whether Bu had obtained a lawyer who
could
comment on the charge.
[© nydailynews.com]
http://cliffviewpilot.com/manhattan-deliveryman-caught-riding-electric-bicycle-through-holland-tunnel/
Manhattan deliveryman caught riding electric bicycle through Holland
Tunnel
by: Jerry DeMarco August 14, 2015
BEYOND BERGEN: A lower Manhattan deliveryman rode an electric bicycle
through the Holland Tunnel last night, skirting traffic and ignoring
orders
to stop, before officers grabbed him on the New Jersey tube.
Yongshun Bu, 44, was delivering food when he “recklessly” drove
through the
tunnel around 7 p.m., the authority’s Joseph Pentangelo told CLIFFVIEW
PILOT.
Port Authority tunnel and bridge agents combined with PAPD officers
to take
him into custody just inside the exit, he said.
The tunnel was cleared and checked for safety reasons, Pentangelo
said.
[© 2015 Cliffview Pilot]
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2015/08/lost_deliveryman_rides_wrong-way_into_holland_tunnel_officials_say.html
Lost deliveryman rides wrong-way into Holland Tunnel, officials say
By Noah Cohen | August 15, 2015
NEW YORK — A Chinese food deliveryman trying to bring an order to a
Manhattan address got lost, and ended up riding his electric-powered
bicycle
into oncoming traffic at the Holland Tunnel before he was arrested,
officials and reports said Friday.
Yongshun Bu, 44, piloted the bike around traffic coming from Jersey
City,
ignoring signs and instructions to stop Thursday night, according to
Port
Authority police spokesman Joe Pentangelo.
Workers noticed the wayward biker and waved their hands to stop him, a
source told The New York Post. Bu, however, was undeterred.
Officials slowed traffic on the New Jersey side before Port Authority
Police
officer Eric Brozek caught up to Bu about 100 yards into the tube,
according
to the newspaper. Police deployed a dog to sniff for explosives as a
precaution after the incident.
The spokesman said Bu was charged with criminal trespass.
[© 2015 New Jersey On-Line]
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Smart is famous for making great city vehicles but their problem is that the
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launching the ForTwo Electric Drive mid-next year, it got quite a number of
people excited.
This is probably due to the fact that the consumers finally see some value
in Smart if it is to take on the mainstream EV market with the ForTwo. After
all, the superb eMPG that might come with the vehicle can cover back the
extra expenses to purchase the car.
The word is that the ForTwo Electric Drive is going to run on a 17.6kWh
lithium battery which sends the power to an electric motor which develops
74PS and 130Nm of torque. While not much, the ForTwo ED can sprint from
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The icing on the cake is with the travel range that is promised to be about
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[EVDL] Couple needed medical treatment from electric bicycle fire Gosport.uk
http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/newS/13600986.Couple_injured_after_electric_bike_sparks_fire_at_Hampshire_home/
A couple needed treatment after an electric bicycle caught fire at their
home in Gosport last night
Maxwell Kusi-Obodum 17 August 2015
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A couple needed treatment after an electric bicycle caught fire at their
home in Gosport last night
Couple injured after electric bike sparks fire at Hampshire home
A MARRIED couple needed medical treatment when an electric bicycle caught
fire in their Hampshire home in the early hours of today.
The pair awoke to find the bike burning in the front room of their terraced
house in Kealy Road, Gosport, at 12.15am.
The man, believed to be in his early 30s tried to tackle the flames by
throwing water over the bike which was being charged at an electrical point
at the time.
Crews from Gosport fire station arrived to find the flames already out.
They gave oxygen to the man and his wife, believed to be in her late 20s,
who were suffering from smoke inhalation.
An ambulance was called but the couple did not need hospital treatment.
The bike was completely destroyed and the fire caused 20 per cent damage to
the floor and severe smoke damage to the room.
Watch-manager Steve Bint reminded people not to fight electrical fires with
water and added: “People shouldn’t attempt to put it out. If it is safe to
do so people should close the door get out and call us.”
[© dailyecho.co.uk]
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Re: [EVDL] Wanted: charger for 180VDC pack (Brusa NLG511 equivalent)
Why a discontinued charger that will be hard to get support or repaired?
Perhaps others can suggest an alternative 3kW charger for your 180VDC pack
(I am assuming it is Li-ion).
Brusa still offers chargers that could fit your charging needs:
http://www.brusa.eu/en/products/energy/chargers-400-v/nlg513-air-cooled.html
A U.S. retail Brusa source:
http://www.metricmind.com/category/ev-battery-chargers/
Other links to explore:
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http://www.manzanitamicro.com/downloads/category/15-chargers?download=69%3Apfc20-30-40-spec-sheet
http://www.elconchargers.com/catalog/item/7344653/7638094.htm
http://www.electriccarinternational.com/battery-chargers.php
(there are other ~3kW chargers that also would likely work for you ...)
If you absolutely must have that old Brusa model, use
https://www.google.com/search?q=charger+NLG511
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http://www.metricmind.com/about-us/
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Does anybody know from where I can buy a Brusa charger NLG511? I have
180V nominal voltage on my EV.
From Brusa this charger is not available.
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Re: [EVDL] Couple needed medical treatment from electric bicycle fire Gosport.uk
A li ion battery fire is not an electrical fire. And yes you want to get the
heat out so water works well.
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On Aug 24, 2015, at 2:29 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/newS/13600986.Couple_injured_after_electric_bike_sparks_fire_at_Hampshire_home/
A couple needed treatment after an electric bicycle caught fire at their
home in Gosport last night
Maxwell Kusi-Obodum 17 August 2015
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A couple needed treatment after an electric bicycle caught fire at their
home in Gosport last night
Couple injured after electric bike sparks fire at Hampshire home
A MARRIED couple needed medical treatment when an electric bicycle caught
fire in their Hampshire home in the early hours of today.
The pair awoke to find the bike burning in the front room of their terraced
house in Kealy Road, Gosport, at 12.15am.
The man, believed to be in his early 30s tried to tackle the flames by
throwing water over the bike which was being charged at an electrical point
at the time.
Crews from Gosport fire station arrived to find the flames already out.
They gave oxygen to the man and his wife, believed to be in her late 20s,
who were suffering from smoke inhalation.
An ambulance was called but the couple did not need hospital treatment.
The bike was completely destroyed and the fire caused 20 per cent damage to
the floor and severe smoke damage to the room.
Watch-manager Steve Bint reminded people not to fight electrical fires with
water and added: “People shouldn’t attempt to put it out. If it is safe to
do so people should close the door get out and call us.”
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[EVDL] EVLN: BASF hawking 30% lighter foamed glass-fiberpaper EV materials
http://compositesmanufacturingmagazine.com/2015/08/basfs-elastoflex-opens-door-to-mass-produced-honeycomb-car-parts/
BASF’s Elastoflex Opens Door to Mass Produced Honeycomb Car Parts
Evan Milberg August 17, 2015
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According to an August 12 press release from BASF, its semi-rigid
polyurethane foam system has made it possible for the first time to
mass-produce an exterior car part featuring a honeycomb sandwich structure
with a class-A film. The foam system, Elastoflex E, was used to make the
roof for a model of the new smart fortwo – an electric vehicle. The roof
consists of a paper honeycomb and two surrounding glass fiber mats.
The roof, which is 30 percent lighter than the standard roof on the previous
model, was developed by Fehrer Composite Components, which manufactures it
in its factory in Großlangheim, Germany. Although the newer model is
lighter, BASF maintains it retains the same strength and flexural rigidity.
To make the roof, honeycomb and glass fiber mats are sprayed in a single
impregnation process with BASF’s Elastoflex E 3532 and pressed together with
a solid-colored class-A film. This causes the polyurethane system to foam up
slightly at the edge of the sandwich and creates a solid material composite
between film, reinforcing mats and paper honeycomb core.
“In contrast to conventional composite parts, in this roof module the
individual layers are not glued together in a multi-stage process, but are
instead produced in a single manufacturing step,” says Gao Kwintmeyer,
Global Purchasing Fehrer. “This is much more efficient.”
In the past, the honeycomb technology was used to make interior car parts,
such as loading floors, roof linings, and rear shelves. In order to make
exterior car parts, however, BASF had to adjust the viscosity and reactivity
of Elastoflex E to ensure it could be optimally processed in each
manufacturing step and display good adhesion properties. According to BASF,
the adjusted system guarantees uniform, thin wetting of the glass fiber mats
and will not drip.
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[EVDL] EVLN: Daimler axes Smart fortwo electric drive EV
http://www.leftlanenews.com/smart-axes-fortwo-electric-drive-89463.html
Smart axes fortwo electric drive
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Daimler's smart division has announced it has stopped production of the
fortwo electric drive.
The company explains that demand for the electric drive (pictured) is low
but steady. However, the EV is based on the last-gen smart and building it
alongside the new third-gen model in Hambach, France, requires a costly
investment that's hard to justify for such a low-volume model.
Smart has a handful of electric drive models in its global inventory, but
the company predicts all of them will be spoken for before the year draws to
a close. After that, buyers seeking an all-electric smart will either need
to be patient or look for a used one.
Although smart is currently developing a brand new fortwo electric drive
with input from industrial partner Renault, production isn't scheduled to
start until well into the second half of next year. Until we're given a more
specific time frame, it's not too far-fetched to assume the next
battery-powered smart will be presented at next year's Paris Motor Show, and
land on our shores as a 2017 model.
What's next?
Like the model that just went out of production, the next electric drive
will be based on the tiny fortwo. Long-standing rumors indicate the
marginally bigger forfour will also spawn an EV, but smart has refused to
comment on the matter.
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Re: [EVDL] Wanted: charger for 180VDC pack (Brusa NLG511 equivalent)
Thanks
any alternative solutions to the BRUSA NLG511 are welcome.
Any alternative chargers must be able to be controlled by my BMS (I am
using a BMS from elithion).
The Brusa charger NLG513 has a voltage range from 200V to 520V, whereas
I have a nominal voltage of 180V (56 cells of LiFePO4 in series, max
pack voltage is 202V).
Thanks for proposals and control solutions.
Am 24.08.2015 um 10:13 schrieb brucedp5 via EV:
Why a discontinued charger that will be hard to get support or repaired?
Perhaps others can suggest an alternative 3kW charger for your 180VDC pack
(I am assuming it is Li-ion).
Brusa still offers chargers that could fit your charging needs:
http://www.brusa.eu/en/products/energy/chargers-400-v/nlg513-air-cooled.html
A U.S. retail Brusa source:
http://www.metricmind.com/category/ev-battery-chargers/
Other links to explore:
http://www.manzanitamicro.com/products?page=shop.product_detailsflypage=flypage.tplproduct_id=39category_id=14
http://www.manzanitamicro.com/downloads/category/15-chargers?download=69%3Apfc20-30-40-spec-sheet
http://www.elconchargers.com/catalog/item/7344653/7638094.htm
http://www.electriccarinternational.com/battery-chargers.php
(there are other ~3kW chargers that also would likely work for you ...)
If you absolutely must have that old Brusa model, use
https://www.google.com/search?q=charger+NLG511
to see who had used them, contact them if they have one to sell, etc. (like:
)
http://www.metricmind.com/about-us/
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180V nominal voltage on my EV.
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Re: [EVDL] Same reporter bringing both anti e-Bike articles, was: Bu's e-wheely bad idea
On 24 Aug 2015 at 11:11, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: I wonder why else would this same reporter do this piece ... Thanks for that observation. I hadn't noticed that it was the same reporter. Very interesting. It does make you wonder if there might be an agenda here. On 24 Aug 2015 at 13:02, Jim Walls via EV wrote: What a difference. I don't think I have ever seen an electric assist bike available for sale. I've seen a few on the road, so I know they exist however. I don't spend much time in bike shops, but this is my impression too. There seem to be plenty expensive high-end bikes for enthusiasts, but only a few choices if any in e-bikes. The greener areas of the US sometimes have specialty e-bike shops, and they often sell on the internet too. A couple of examples are EVsNW in Seattle (which IIRC used to also offer 4-wheel EV components many years ago), and NYCEWheels in New York. (Incidentally, if e-bikes are allegedly illegal in NYC, how do you suppose NYCEWheels survives?) But again, I haven't been to a bike shop around here lately, so maybe the offerings have changed. Oh, and I still have a record player (not that I've used it in a while). I do too, and I use it! But that's off topic, so I won't say any more. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to evpost and etpost addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Same reporter bringing both anti e-Bike articles, was: Bu's e-wheely bad idea
Cor van de Water said (in part): This means that they law is giving serious trouble to the current wave of new bicycles, since it is almost impossible to buy a good bike without it having electric assist. When I walk into a bike shop in The Netherlands, the only bikes you will find on display are the e-Bikes. Asking for a non-assist bike is like asking for a steam-powered car or a record player. What a difference. I don't think I have ever seen an electric assist bike available for sale. I've seen a few on the road, so I know they exist however. Oh, and I still have a record player (not that I've used it in a while)... Jim -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150824/adaa0b74/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Bu's e-wheely bad idea weaving-recklessly the wrongway HT delivery
a short traffic disruption,
but no one was hurt, officials said.
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Food Delivery Cyclist Rushes Wrong Way Through Holland Tunnel: Cops
Aug 15, 2015
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A restaurant delivery person apparently disappointed hungry customers
after
being arrested by police who said he was weaving through oncoming
traffic in
the wrong lane of the Holland Tunnel.
Yongshun Bu, 44, recklessly dodged oncoming traffic, ignored signs and
verbal instructions to stop while making a food delivery Friday evening
on
an electric-powered bicycle, Port Authority police said Saturday.
Bu was apprehended at the tunnel exit and charged with criminal
trespass,
police said.
There was no information as to whether Bu had obtained a lawyer who
could
comment on the charge.
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Manhattan deliveryman caught riding electric bicycle through Holland
Tunnel
by: Jerry DeMarco August 14, 2015
BEYOND BERGEN: A lower Manhattan deliveryman rode an electric bicycle
through the Holland Tunnel last night, skirting traffic and ignoring
orders
to stop, before officers grabbed him on the New Jersey tube.
Yongshun Bu, 44, was delivering food when he “recklessly” drove through
the
tunnel around 7 p.m., the authority’s Joseph Pentangelo told CLIFFVIEW
PILOT.
Port Authority tunnel and bridge agents combined with PAPD officers to
take
him into custody just inside the exit, he said.
The tunnel was cleared and checked for safety reasons, Pentangelo said.
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Lost deliveryman rides wrong-way into Holland Tunnel, officials say
By Noah Cohen | August 15, 2015
NEW YORK — A Chinese food deliveryman trying to bring an order to a
Manhattan address got lost, and ended up riding his electric-powered
bicycle
into oncoming traffic at the Holland Tunnel before he was arrested,
officials and reports said Friday.
Yongshun Bu, 44, piloted the bike around traffic coming from Jersey
City,
ignoring signs and instructions to stop Thursday night, according to
Port
Authority police spokesman Joe Pentangelo.
Workers noticed the wayward biker and waved their hands to stop him, a
source told The New York Post. Bu, however, was undeterred.
Officials slowed traffic on the New Jersey side before Port Authority
Police
officer Eric Brozek caught up to Bu about 100 yards into the tube,
according
to the newspaper. Police deployed a dog to sniff for explosives as a
precaution after the incident.
The spokesman said Bu was charged with criminal trespass.
[© 2015 New Jersey On-Line]
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Re: [EVDL] Bu's e-wheely bad idea weaving-recklessly the wrongway HT delivery
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Re: [EVDL] Bu's e-wheely bad idea weaving-recklessly the wrongway HT delivery
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