Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

Hi Al, Obviously. I have several EVSE, most require 120+120V to operate even though they only provide the 240V to the car. Only my JuiceBox can live from just a 240V connection. Installing a NEMA 14 outlet without Neutral would be a code violation anyway, so I don't plan to go there. Cor van de

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

If you install a 14-50 outlet, you better make sure you include a neutral conductor. (even though most EVSE don't require it) On 3/7/2016 5:44 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: Hi Peter, Thanks for the clarification - I too consider installing a NEMA 14 in my garage. For the 2nd clothes

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

Rush Dougherty via EV wrote: I'm interested in this idea of 'violations' Home Depot/Lowes/Ace Hardware/and many other hardware/electrical stores sell replacement cords for appliances, where you, the homeowner can replace a cord with a new one. Does that void the UL guarantee and NEC (if there

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

Peter C. Thompson wrote: > I didn't claim that it made any sense. :) I agree that having the > 14-50 plug in the garage makes a lot of sense (which is what I have - > for welding, of course). I think the use of NEMA 6-xx connectors makes sense given that the J1772 EVSE is a 240V *only*

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

Just as a side here (because it’s what I have) the Versicharge from Siemens comes with a four-way switch inside that you can set for maximum current. This means (if like me) you’re renting a house with a 30A circuit free it’s possible to turn down the max current to ensure you don’t heat any

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

I may have been the one to mistakenly say guarantee - you are correct in that it is certification. Cheers, Peter On 3/7/16 2:39 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: I have never heard of UL guarantee, all I have seen is UL Certification which is the declaration by the private company UL that

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

Hi Peter, Thanks for the clarification - I too consider installing a NEMA 14 in my garage. For the 2nd clothes dryer, of course ;-) Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +31 87 784 1130

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

Hi Cor, I didn't claim that it made any sense. :) I agree that having the 14-50 plug in the garage makes a lot of sense (which is what I have - for welding, of course). Cheers, Peter On 3/7/16 10:05 AM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: Thanks Peter, for the overview of what plugs the EVSE

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

I have never heard of UL guarantee, all I have seen is UL Certification which is the declaration by the private company UL that they took your product and documentation and even production method, and tested it to guarantee that it meets certain spec and safety standards. The product is then said

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

If you want to prepare for a 50 or 60 Amp connection as required for example when installing a NEMA 14-50 then I believe you should install 6 gauge wires. Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +31 87 784

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

The HCS-40P is also available with 14-50. On March 7, 2016 11:07:12 AM CST, "Peter C. Thompson via EV" wrote: >To add to this conversation, here are some commercial chargers: > >Clipper Creek LCS-20P - uses 14-30 plug. LCS-25P also uses 14-30. The >HCS-40P uses the 6-50. >GE

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

Heck, stores knowingly sell things that can basically only be used to kill people. I don't think anybody's going to complain about Home Depot selling a few cord sets. -Bill > On Mar 7, 2016, at 21:30, Rush Dougherty via EV wrote: > > >>

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

> -Original Message- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of EVDL Administrator via EV > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 12:06 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE > > On 7 Mar 2016 at 10:33,

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

Peter, I believe that the units that are cited have factory installed cord ends. Installing a cord cap on a device approved for direct connection can be argued as a safety feature (means for emergency disconnection), though it may be a tough sell. -Tom On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 10:01 AM, EVDL

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

Agreed Peter. Of course, once you have the 4 square box present with the decided upon conductors, the receptacle (or lack of) is academic.. I do recommend a minimum conductor size of #8 however to allow for future upgrades at a minimal expense. -Tom On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Peter C.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

On 7 Mar 2016 at 10:33, Peter C. Thompson via EV wrote: > it likely will void any UL guarantees. You would know more than I about UL guarantees -- I had no idea such a thing existed -- but I suppose that adding a cord and plug to a device meant to be directly wired would affect its UL

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

On 3/7/16 10:01 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: On 7 Mar 2016 at 9:07, Peter C. Thompson via EV wrote: The hard-wired chargers can use the plug of your choice - as long as the current capacity is sufficient. I may be remembering wrong, but I think that adding a cord and plug to a device

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

On 7 Mar 2016 at 9:07, Peter C. Thompson via EV wrote: > The hard-wired chargers can use the plug of your choice - as long as the > current capacity is sufficient. I may be remembering wrong, but I think that adding a cord and plug to a device approved for direct connection and not for

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

Thanks Peter, for the overview of what plugs the EVSE are supplied with. My issue is that you want to be able to plug the charger into a matching wall outlet and by my experience the 14-30 and 14-50 are the most common outlets so I do not understand why so many chargers have a 6-50 plug even

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

To add to this conversation, here are some commercial chargers: Clipper Creek LCS-20P - uses 14-30 plug. LCS-25P also uses 14-30. The HCS-40P uses the 6-50. GE EVWSWBC-CP01 uses the 6-50 plug. AeroVironment EV station (7kw) uses the 6-40 plug. Juicebox 40A uses the 14-50 plug. AeroVironment

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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

Good to see this post. As an electrician who has done many of these retrofitted and a few new construction EVSE circuit installations, I tend to agree with most of the advice given. I have found that the easiest way to explain the idea to most potential EV owners is to describe it as a welding

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

That is interesting because I purchased a Siemens VersiCharge Gen 2 30 Amp charger and it had a NE MA 6-50 plug on the end. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Cor van de Water via EV Date: 3/7/2016 3:18 AM (GMT-06:00)

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

Sorry, but I think this is bad advice. NEMA 6-50 is not the most common plug. The NEMA 14-50 (RV plug) is by far the most useful plug, found in every camping and RV spot, it is used for stove or other appliance connection in newer homes (old homes had 10-50 or 10-30 for stove and dryer

[EVDL] EVLN: What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

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