Re: [EVDL] Automakers lobby for "relief" from EVs

2016-11-12 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Hart; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Automakers lobby for "relief" from EVs I think Tesla is the wildcard that will help ensure the continuation of EVs. Tesla is actually nearing the end of their EV tax credits in the next year or two. If the EV credits a

Re: [EVDL] Automakers lobby for "relief" from EVs

2016-11-12 Thread Mike Nickerson via EV
I think Tesla is the wildcard that will help ensure the continuation of EVs. Tesla is actually nearing the end of their EV tax credits in the next year or two. If the EV credits are removed, that could actually help Tesla by leveling the playing field. They would have been facing competition

Re: [EVDL] Automakers lobby for "relief" from EVs

2016-11-12 Thread Lee Hart via EV
tomw wrote - As for crushing cars, that's nonsense. As David says, there are lots of ways to "crush" EVs besides literally putting them in a car crusher. For instance... - Auto companies cancel their EV leases, demand cars be returned, and destroy them. - Change environmental regulations

Re: [EVDL] Automakers lobby for "relief" from EVs

2016-11-12 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
tomw wrote - > As for crushing cars, that's nonsense. WHAT? Are my eyes deceiving me??? You can't actually tell me that you don't know how the EV1 met its end? You sound just like Turnip when he says "The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S.

Re: [EVDL] Automakers lobby for "relief" from EVs

2016-11-12 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
ists.evdl.org> To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: Sent: 12-Nov-16 10:15:53 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Automakers lobby for "relief" from EVs Trump has said many things. He said Saudi Arabia should give the U.S. free oil for 10 years. He also plans to open more public lands for fossil fuel extraction.

Re: [EVDL] Automakers lobby for "relief" from EVs

2016-11-12 Thread tomw via EV
Trump has said many things. He said Saudi Arabia should give the U.S. free oil for 10 years. He also plans to open more public lands for fossil fuel extraction. Which refiners are going to pay for more-expensive-to-produce oil from fracking when Saudia Arabia is giving them oil? He said he

Re: [EVDL] Automakers lobby for "relief" from EVs

2016-11-11 Thread Thos True via EV
Nope, not the least bit surprised by this proposal. This is woefully predictable, with the advent of citizens united allowing the big oil guys to provide unlimited support for their chosen lawmakers, and a great amount of misdirection by the "unbiased" media. Is it any surprise that we now have

Re: [EVDL] Automakers lobby for "relief" from EVs

2016-11-11 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Is anyone in the least surprised by this? Asia and the EU continue to adopt EVs. There are even some smaller areas that seek to convert to a 100% EV fleet. The US automakers are essentially saying "No thanks, we don't want to sell cars there." Their loss. I've said this before, but it bears