Re: [EVDL] EVLN: HMC Twizy-knockoff> with the elderly in mind
I believe that even Vectrix uses this principle on their electric motorbike sized scooter: twist the handlebar grip forward to accelerate, twist backwards to regen and stop. Use the handlebar brake levers if regen is not sufficient. The BMW EVs of a couple years ago had one-pedal-drive in the accelerator. My 1994 US Electricar had this from the beginning where you select the regen level by putting the gear selector in 1,2 or Drive and the Dolphin inverter gets told to either utilize a hard regen, mild regen or light regen. I normally use [1] which gives me hard regen and this allows 1 pedal drive with just the accelerator for all my commute except when there are surprises. As others have said, there are installers of hand-controls to make vehicles suitable for drivers with physical limitations. Cor. On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 6:05 PM Lee Hart via EV wrote: > > Gail Lucas via EV wrote: > > I am seeing that elderly drivers could drive this vehicle on freeways > > without using the steering wheel. What I would prefer is a slow speed > > vehicle with about 40 mile range that would stop itself without the > > driver using the brake pedal. My arms still work but I had to quit > > driving when arthritis prevented my leg from moving fast enough to use > > the brakes. I drove a 38 MPH Citicar for many years, would be happy with > > another like that, with automatic braking. > > Gail, have you ever seen or driven an antique EV, like the Detroit or > Baker Electric? They used a tiller for steering, and a twist-grip for > the throttle on the tiller bar. Rotating the twist-grip forward > accelerated ahead; rotating it backwards used regen to slow down, and > would then even reverse if you turned it back far enough. They could be > driven, steered, and stopped with one hand. > > My very first on-road EV test drive was a Detroit Electric. It was very > easy to control. I've always felt that was a perfectly viable way to > control a car. > > -- > In software development, there are two kinds of error: Conceptual > errors, implementation errors, and off-by-one errors. (anonymous) > -- > Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: HMC Twizy-knockoff> with the elderly in mind
Gail Lucas via EV wrote: I am seeing that elderly drivers could drive this vehicle on freeways without using the steering wheel. What I would prefer is a slow speed vehicle with about 40 mile range that would stop itself without the driver using the brake pedal. My arms still work but I had to quit driving when arthritis prevented my leg from moving fast enough to use the brakes. I drove a 38 MPH Citicar for many years, would be happy with another like that, with automatic braking. Gail, have you ever seen or driven an antique EV, like the Detroit or Baker Electric? They used a tiller for steering, and a twist-grip for the throttle on the tiller bar. Rotating the twist-grip forward accelerated ahead; rotating it backwards used regen to slow down, and would then even reverse if you turned it back far enough. They could be driven, steered, and stopped with one hand. My very first on-road EV test drive was a Detroit Electric. It was very easy to control. I've always felt that was a perfectly viable way to control a car. -- In software development, there are two kinds of error: Conceptual errors, implementation errors, and off-by-one errors. (anonymous) -- Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: HMC Twizy-knockoff> with the elderly in mind
Any shop that sets up motor vehicles with hand controls should be able to set up a Polaris GEM or any other low speed vehicle for braking (and acceleration if also needed) by hand. Al At 03:35 PM 7/18/2019, Gail Lucas via EV wrote: I am seeing that elderly drivers could drive this vehicle on freeways without using the steering wheel. What I would prefer is a slow speed vehicle with about 40 mile range that would stop itself without the driver using the brake pedal. My arms still work but I had to quit driving when arthritis prevented my leg from moving fast enough to use the brakes. I drove a 38 MPH Citicar for many years, would be happy with another like that, with automatic braking. Gail On 7/14/2019 8:30 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/07/05/business/corporate-business/honda-unveils-plan-develop-ultramini-electric-vehicles-elderly-mind/ > Honda unveils plan to develop ultramini electric vehicles with the elderly > in mind > Jul 5, 2019 JIJI > > [image > https://cdn.japantimes.2xx.jp/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/b-honda-a-20190706.jpg > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: HMC Twizy-knockoff> with the elderly in mind
I am seeing that elderly drivers could drive this vehicle on freeways without using the steering wheel. What I would prefer is a slow speed vehicle with about 40 mile range that would stop itself without the driver using the brake pedal. My arms still work but I had to quit driving when arthritis prevented my leg from moving fast enough to use the brakes. I drove a 38 MPH Citicar for many years, would be happy with another like that, with automatic braking. Gail On 7/14/2019 8:30 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/07/05/business/corporate-business/honda-unveils-plan-develop-ultramini-electric-vehicles-elderly-mind/ Honda unveils plan to develop ultramini electric vehicles with the elderly in mind Jul 5, 2019 JIJI [image https://cdn.japantimes.2xx.jp/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/b-honda-a-20190706.jpg Honda Motor Co.'s ultramini electric vehicle MC-?, which was used in a car-sharing experiment in Saitama between 2014 and 2016, is seen in 2014. | KYODO ] Honda Motor Co. on Thursday revealed a plan to develop ultramini electric vehicles that it hopes will become the go-to mode of transportation for the elderly and other people instead of conventional smaller automobiles. The one- or two-seater vehicles will run at low speeds, reducing the chance of causing traffic accidents. The announcement came on the heels of a recent series of major car accidents involving elderly drivers. “We want to help advance mobility and living, and provide all people with the joy of broadened possibilities in their everyday lives,” Honda President Takahiro Hachigo said. Among the vehicles being developed by Honda is a three-wheeled electric vehicle suitable for short- and middle-distance travel. Honda has yet to decide when to release the vehicles. In the field of self-driving technology, Honda aims to develop an automobile that can be driven hands free on expressways, except for in emergency situations. The vehicle will automatically maintain an appropriate position in traffic lanes and a proper distance from automobiles around it, and will be able to switch lanes without the driver holding the steering wheel. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: HMC Twizy-knockoff> with the elderly in mind
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/07/05/business/corporate-business/honda-unveils-plan-develop-ultramini-electric-vehicles-elderly-mind/ Honda unveils plan to develop ultramini electric vehicles with the elderly in mind Jul 5, 2019 JIJI [image https://cdn.japantimes.2xx.jp/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/b-honda-a-20190706.jpg Honda Motor Co.'s ultramini electric vehicle MC-?, which was used in a car-sharing experiment in Saitama between 2014 and 2016, is seen in 2014. | KYODO ] Honda Motor Co. on Thursday revealed a plan to develop ultramini electric vehicles that it hopes will become the go-to mode of transportation for the elderly and other people instead of conventional smaller automobiles. The one- or two-seater vehicles will run at low speeds, reducing the chance of causing traffic accidents. The announcement came on the heels of a recent series of major car accidents involving elderly drivers. “We want to help advance mobility and living, and provide all people with the joy of broadened possibilities in their everyday lives,” Honda President Takahiro Hachigo said. Among the vehicles being developed by Honda is a three-wheeled electric vehicle suitable for short- and middle-distance travel. Honda has yet to decide when to release the vehicles. In the field of self-driving technology, Honda aims to develop an automobile that can be driven hands free on expressways, except for in emergency situations. The vehicle will automatically maintain an appropriate position in traffic lanes and a proper distance from automobiles around it, and will be able to switch lanes without the driver holding the steering wheel. In emergency situations, the vehicle will prompt the driver to take manual control of it using alarms, warnings on the monitor screen and a vibrating driver’s seatbelt. Honda also plans to add a feature that will guide the vehicle to park automatically at the side of the road if the driver is detected to be falling asleep. [© japantimes.co.jp] http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=search_page&node=413529&query=Honda+urban&days=0 search Honda urban EVLN: Honda-e (son of Urban) 2seat Sports EV (prototype) + https://www.hotcars.com/honda-e-prototype-urban-electric-car/ Honda Reveals E Prototype As The Sensible Electric Car Jul 05, 2019 ... small car for urban commuting. There's a certain underserved segment of the population ... https://static2.hotcarsimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/185276_HONDA_E_THE_PERFECT_BALANCE_OF_EFFICIENCY_AND_PERFORMANCE_FOR_URBAN.jpg For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/archive/ {brucedp.neocities.org} -- Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)