Re: [EVDL] OEM EV charging on 120V with no ground?

<--The scrubbed HTML attachment from another poster follows--> Has anyone tried to charge a LEAF at greater than 12 amps at 120V? When I was testing my home built EVSE, I did a preliminary test on 120V, but didn't bother changing the pilot to something less than 50A. W

[EVDL] OEM EV charging on 120V with no ground?

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Re: [EVDL] OEM EV charging on 120V with no ground?

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:34 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > > As for charging at 20a on a 20a circuit, don't do it! The maximum sustained > single load allowed on a 20a circuit is 0.8 * 20 == 16 amps. > Just to reiterate, I am not charging at 20A on a 20A circuit. I charge at 12A on a 15A

Re: [EVDL] OEM EV charging on 120V with no ground?

On 7 Oct 2015 at 4:32, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > I had an outlet overheating on the *opposite* side as where I > charge, because that is how the power was coming into the > garage - via wires stabbed into the back of outlets and one of > them was high resistance - already completely blacken

Re: [EVDL] OEM EV charging on 120V with no ground?

ussion List<mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] OEM EV charging on 120V with no ground? Unbalanced current is what is *measured* in a GCFI. And also, it is the unbalanced current that is the cause and the voltage droop is an after effect

Re: [EVDL] OEM EV charging on 120V with no ground?

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > Ah,so the Kia travel charger does not detect 120V input > to set its 12A pilot signal pattern, it detects absence of > voltage between ground and one phase as "this must be 120V". That is not what I said. The Kia _on board charger_

Re: [EVDL] OEM EV charging on 120V with no ground?

Nelson Subject: Re: [EVDL] OEM EV charging on 120V with no ground? Current is the effect, voltage is the cause.  Current cannot flow without voltage. If you have a leakage of the current or another parallel path, the voltage will drop causing increase ampere, there will be a differential of ampere

Re: [EVDL] OEM EV charging on 120V with no ground?

c Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] OEM EV charging on 120V with no ground? On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Michael Ross wrote: > OEM EV is pretty broad. What does their user manual say? > That is true. I'll have to dig through the user manual and the shop manual. I don'

Re: [EVDL] OEM EV charging on 120V with no ground?

- Original Message - From: Robert Bruninga via EV<mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> To: David Nelson<mailto:gizm...@gmail.com> ; Electric Vehicle Discussion List<mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] OEM EV chargi

Re: [EVDL] OEM EV charging on 120V with no ground?

Correction: > If either the Line Wire (Hot) or a color conductor which will be black, red > > or blue has voltage that is different then the Neutral Wire (White), the > the > > GFI will detect this unbalance and will open up the circuit. > No, it is not voltage it is current. If the current is

Re: [EVDL] OEM EV charging on 120V with no ground?

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Michael Ross wrote: > OEM EV is pretty broad. What does their user manual say? > That is true. I'll have to dig through the user manual and the shop manual. I don't expect to find out anything about this in the user manual. Especially when I couldn't get a straigh

Re: [EVDL] OEM EV charging on 120V with no ground?

OEM EV is pretty broad. What does their user manual say? The ground is for your safety. You can buy double insulated hand tools that use no ground on 120VAC. Is your OEMEV "double insulated?" If not it is strcitly at your own risk. If you are going to wing it, then I guess you could poke aroun

Re: [EVDL] OEM EV charging on 120V with no ground?

out to see if you have complete circuit isolation, turn on the > charger to charged the battery and see if you have any voltage between any > of the battery terminals to the body of the vehicle. My is 0 volts. > > Roland > > - Original Message - > From: Peter Gabrielsson via

Re: [EVDL] OEM EV charging on 120V with no ground?

Nelson<mailto:gizm...@gmail.com> ; Electric Vehicle Discussion List<mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] OEM EV charging on 120V with no ground? The safety concern is that you have no protection ground so a ground fault inside the vehicle

Re: [EVDL] OEM EV charging on 120V with no ground?

On Oct 6, 2015, at 10:23 AM, Peter Gabrielsson via EV wrote: > If this is a permanent thing you might want to drive a ground rod next to > the pedestal. Even if not permanent, there're ways of creating grounds -- including driving a rod or looking for something conductive already grounded. But

Re: [EVDL] OEM EV charging on 120V with no ground?

The safety concern is that you have no protection ground so a ground fault inside the vehicle may result in the body of your vehicle becoming live. I've never seen an RV pedestal without ground though? I though that was required for any outdoor outlets. If this is a permanent thing you might want

[EVDL] OEM EV charging on 120V with no ground?

What are the safety issues of charging an OEM EV on 120V without the ground wire connected? I do have an EVSE which will do this if I put 100kohm resistors between hot-ground and neutral-ground which is what I have to do to charge with my portable-inverter generator. I'm not concerned with generato