On 7/11/21 10:53 AM, Haudy Kazemi via EV wrote:
In the end, if one believes in an EV future, and wants to put their money
where their mouth is, and wants to drive an EV, there are trade-offs to be
made.
Does one go with a home DIY conversion? That may not be maintainable by a
third party.
They can’t make them fast enough. There’s a 3 month wait for a model Y right
now!
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On Saturday, July 10, 2021, 6:51 AM, Jay Summet via EV
wrote:
On 7/9/21 4:43 PM, Willie via EV wrote:
> This "I hate Elon and no level of
> superior performance can
I hope everyone here realizes that he has Asperger’s syndrome, right?
He is socially awkward but I don’t think he has made bad business decisions.
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On Friday, July 9, 2021, 3:43 PM, Willie via EV wrote:
On 7/9/21 12:55 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
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> On 7/10/21 9:43 PM, nathan christiansn via EV wrote:
> >> I think that most Tesla de
Should we bring up EV-1s while we are here! LOL
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On 7/10/21 9:43 PM, nathan
On 7/10/21 9:43 PM, nathan christiansn via EV wrote:
I think that most Tesla devotees are either unaware of or underestimate
the
level of distaste (to put it mildly) for Elon Musk that exists on the
periphery of EV interest.
While Elon may have an impulsive personality, you cannot ignore
> I think that most Tesla devotees are either unaware of or underestimate
the
> level of distaste (to put it mildly) for Elon Musk that exists on the
> periphery of EV interest.
While Elon may have an impulsive personality, you cannot ignore the wonders
he has done for Tesla and EVs in general.
On 7/9/21 4:43 PM, Willie via EV wrote:
This "I hate Elon and no level of
superior performance can overcome that hatred" caught me by complete
surprise.
Plus, Tesla is still very much a luxury brand. Sure, the model 3 can
outperform both of our EV/PHEV vehicles, but since we bought both
On 9 Jul 2021 at 15:43, Willie via EV wrote:
> I thank you for your candidness. This "I hate Elon and no level of
> superior performance can overcome that hatred" caught me by complete
> surprise. But, it explains much that has puzzled me.
I didn't say that.
Tesla's competition has helped
On 7/9/21 12:55 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
I think that most Tesla devotees are either unaware of or underestimate the
level of distaste (to put it mildly) for Elon Musk that exists on the
periphery of EV interest.
I thank you for your candidness. This "I hate Elon and no level
> > I know, the plural of anecdote isn't data, but I see a lot of comments
> > online from thoughtful, reasonable people who'd like to own EVs, but aren't
> > at all keen on handing their money to Musk.
> >
>
> My wife refuses to test drive a Tesla because she hates Elon's "TechBro"
>
I think that most Tesla devotees are either unaware of or underestimate the
level of distaste (to put it mildly) for Elon Musk that exists on the
periphery of EV interest.
I know, the plural of anecdote isn't data, but I see a lot of comments
online from thoughtful, reasonable people who'd
I haven't heard from John Wayland for awhile. Is he still involved with EV's?
Did he ever finish his Honda Insight conversion?
On Friday, July 9, 2021, 02:48:05 PM EDT, Damon Henry via EV
wrote:
>I think that most Tesla devotees are either unaware of or underestimate the
>level
>I think that most Tesla devotees are either unaware of or underestimate the
>level of distaste (to put it mildly) for Elon Musk that exists on the
>periphery of EV interest.
>I know, the plural of anecdote isn't data, but I see a lot of comments
>online from thoughtful, reasonable people
On 9 Jul 2021 at 10:20, Willie via EV wrote:
> Some here just can not accept that it was done by Tesla. I can not
> understand the anti-Tesla bias.
I've said this several times, but once more:
I'm not opposed to, or biased against, Tesla as a company.
They design outstanding vehicles.
On 7/8/21 11:10 PM, paul dove via EV wrote:
This is hearsay! Lots of people said their Toyota’s and Lexus suddenly
accelerated but this too was ruled as operator error or the accelerator getting
stuck in the carpet. Many people try to blame someone else for their mistakes.
After reading
After 40 years in marine navigation and as a private pilot, I’ve learned two
basic rules regarding autopilots:
1) trust your instruments, and
2) YOU are responsible for safe operation - not the instruments.
Seems like autonomous driving promoters would have you believe end to end
autonomous
On 9 Jul 2021 at 4:10, paul dove via EV wrote:
> This is hearsay!
I don't think so.
Paul, are you suggesting that Mark is unreliable, or that his friend is
faking the injuries from the friend's Tesla wrecks?
Let's review the definition of "hearsay." From the Oxford Dictionary:
hearsay
This is hearsay! Lots of people said their Toyota’s and Lexus suddenly
accelerated but this too was ruled as operator error or the accelerator getting
stuck in the carpet. Many people try to blame someone else for their mistakes.
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On Thursday, July 8, 2021,
On 8 Jul 2021 at 20:56, mark hanson via EV wrote:
> A friend's wife totaled a model 3 on a country road ... my friend
> ... totaled a second Tesla-3 ... has some medical issues from the
> accident.
So sorry to hear that. Condolences to your friends, and hopes for an
eventual full recovery.
ark hanson via EV"
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Subject: [EVDL] Tesla's Self Driving Feature
Hi Folks,
I use the base AutoPilot on my Y on long trips (appears to only work on
painted freeways) that relieves fatigue going
Hi Folks,
I use the base AutoPilot on my Y on long trips (appears to only work on
painted freeways) that relieves fatigue going down an extended highway but
*didn't* buy the full self driving feature for an additional $10K. I really
like the car now after the first week in March (steep
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