Re: [EVDL] [External] EVLN: Tesla-Y feels like it’s not towing anything

2020-08-20 Thread Lee Hart via EV
paul dove via EV wrote: If your car reports Wh/m then just drive it while towing and record the consumption. The Tesla can do this. Then just divide by the battery capacity to get range. Good point! Most EVs have instrumentation that provides a much easier way to measure power

Re: [EVDL] [External] EVLN: Tesla-Y feels like it’s not towing anything

2020-08-18 Thread paul dove via EV
If your car reports Wh/m then just drive it while towing and record the consumption. The Tesla can do this. Then just divide by the battery capacity to get range. On Tuesday, August 18, 2020, 11:49:14 AM CDT, Luke Scharf via EV wrote: We need a way to rate the trailer's drag, as

Re: [EVDL] [External] EVLN: Tesla-Y feels like it’s not towing anything

2020-08-18 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Won't it also make a large difference overall, depending on the tow vehicle? If the trailer fits in the trailing vacuum, I would think there would be less resistance than if it were punching a new hole. I suspect this could have a larger difference than the frontal

Re: [EVDL] [External] EVLN: Tesla-Y feels like it’s not towing anything

2020-08-18 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
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Re: [EVDL] [External] EVLN: Tesla-Y feels like it’s not towing anything

2020-08-18 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Luke Scharf via EV wrote: We need a way to rate the trailer's drag, as well as its weight. One possibility is a roll-down test. Accellerate the vehicle to speed, put it in neutral, and measure the time and/or distance to coast down to a lower speed. Obviously, do it on flat ground when

Re: [EVDL] [External] EVLN: Tesla-Y feels like it’s not towing anything

2020-08-18 Thread Luke Scharf via EV
We need a way to rate the trailer's drag, as well as its weight. Measuring the cross sectional area of the trailer seems like a good proxy for drag, as the Cd won't very as much for trailers as it does for cars. As many people on this list already know, there are some classic engineering

Re: [EVDL] [External] EVLN: Tesla-Y feels like it’s not towing anything

2020-08-17 Thread Luke Scharf via EV
towed a travel trailer with a GMC Sierra Hybrid this weekend. This is one of the GM 2-Mode Hybrid vehicles. My MPG and driving range fell to about 50% with the trailer attached to the big hybrid -- which is about what people who've towed with the Model X have reported. Thinking through the

Re: [EVDL] [External] EVLN: Tesla-Y feels like it’s not towing anything

2020-08-17 Thread Willie via EV
On 8/16/20 11:24 PM, George Mullineaux via EV wrote: But I never doubted the ability of an EV with 2,000+ pounds of torque towing. It is the manufacturers that will not rate their vehicles with a comparable towing weight. Let me go out on a limb and claim that the reason for this is that

Re: [EVDL] [External] EVLN: Tesla-Y feels like it’s not towing anything

2020-08-17 Thread George Mullineaux via EV
But I never doubted the ability of an EV with 2,000+ pounds of torque towing. It is the manufacturers that will not rate their vehicles with a comparable towing weight. Let me go out on a limb and claim that the reason for this is that towing will greatly impact range. As has been mentioned