Re: [EVDL] Lets discourage hydrogen advocates.

2019-06-27 Thread Willie via EV
On 6/26/19 8:46 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: I'm curious, Willie, when meeting one-on-one with people, did you ever have the chance to breach the question of where the hydrogen comes from ? Some people, once engaged in a question, will at least listen. I came upon the situation

Re: [EVDL] Lets discourage hydrogen advocates. 

2019-06-26 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
https://electrek.co/2017/10/26/toyota-elon-musk-fuel-cell-hydrogen/ This was a story saying Toyota thought Elon Musk was right but they were going to make Fool cells anyway. Lawrence Rhodes ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub

Re: [EVDL] Lets discourage hydrogen advocates.

2019-06-26 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
> From: "EVDL Administrator" > > > I expect that kind of stuff to ooze > out of DC, but we're better than that here. Hey, what's with the attack on DC? It's simpler than AC, and will get you there just as fast. Why, plenty of my friends drive on DC, and my three DC cars get wy

Re: [EVDL] Lets discourage hydrogen advocates.

2019-06-26 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
of where the hydrogen comes from ? Some people, once engaged in a question, will at least listen. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Willie via EV" To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: "Willie" Sent: 26-Jun-19 5:55:08 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Lets discourage hydrogen advocates. I

Re: [EVDL] Lets discourage hydrogen advocates.

2019-06-26 Thread Willie via EV
I offer this anecdote that I deem relevant. Driving my then new Model S in about 2014, I was visiting some cousins near Golden/Denver. At the time, the Texas-Colorado SuperCharger route was up through Wichita; before Trinidad opened. One cousin was a recently retired high school teacher

Re: [EVDL] Lets discourage hydrogen advocates.

2019-06-26 Thread Bill Dube via EV
Actually, H2 fuel cell vehicles are hybrid cars. They have a battery /and/ a fuel cell. The battery provides a boost for acceleration, and stores energy during regen. The fuel cell can then be smaller to only provide just the average power needs. The battery also allows the fuel cell to ramp

Re: [EVDL] Lets discourage hydrogen advocates.

2019-06-26 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Gentlemen, please! This is the electric vehicle *discussion* list; not Facebook, talk radio, or a political campaign rally. People who hold an opposing view aren't idiots, crooks, or liars. Let's skip the emotion, and stick to the facts. May I point out that most H2 fueled vehicles *are* EVs?

Re: [EVDL] Lets discourage hydrogen advocates.

2019-06-26 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
; Lawrence Rhodes Subject: Re: [EVDL] Lets discourage hydrogen advocates. Is there even the most minutiae of evidence of your preposterous assertion? It’s simply not true. False. Kochish. And anti-environmental, to boot. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Jun 25, 2019, at 9

Re: [EVDL] Lets discourage hydrogen advocates.

2019-06-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Citation needed. In this thread I'm seeing too many undocumented claims, and not enough well-supported fact. Also, what's with the personal digs? I expect that kind of stuff to ooze out of DC, but we're better than that here. Let's cool it, please. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL

Re: [EVDL] Lets discourage hydrogen advocates.

2019-06-25 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
, June 25, 2019 9:32 PM To: Lawrence Rhodes Cc: Mark Abramowitz; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Lets discourage hydrogen advocates. Since you end with a flurry of inaccurate and personal attacks, I’ll start there. First of all, the three fuel cell cars in my family run

Re: [EVDL] Lets discourage hydrogen advocates.

2019-06-25 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
cell phone and crawl back under the rock you came from. > Lawrence Rhodes > > -------- > On Tue, 6/25/19, Mark Abramowitz wrote: > > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Lets discourage hydrogen advocates. > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List"

Re: [EVDL] Lets discourage hydrogen advocates.

2019-06-25 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
On Tue, 6/25/19, Mark Abramowitz wrote: Subject: Re: [EVDL] Lets discourage hydrogen advocates. To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "Lawrence Rhodes" Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 3:22 PM Is there even the most minutiae of evidence of your preposterous asser

Re: [EVDL] Lets discourage hydrogen advocates.

2019-06-25 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 25 Jun 2019 at 16:10, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > California tax dollars are being spent to support hydrogen > infrastructure. https://twitter.com/search?q=%40NancySkinnerCA%20hydrogen > c=typd That link gives me a blank page. I don't do Twitter anyway. Could you please quote or