Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-23 Thread Matt Hamilton
On 23 Nov 2009, at 08:07, Dylan Jay wrote: All great points, and agree with you... one point specifically I have been noticing recently... 8) The party line on Acquia is that what's good for Acquia and Dries is good for Drupal. I saw not a hint of discomfort with that. I think this is

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-23 Thread Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.]
Steve, Thanks for the valuable write-up. Following up on Matt's point, why couldn't the 'Plone Foundation' be the organization/vendor rated by the analysts? Let them analyze the staying power of the Foundation, the project, the CMS - that has to be a strength of Plone that we're not

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-23 Thread Scott Paley
Steve - this is fantastic. Thanks! Next Wednesday (12/2) I'll be sitting on a panel at Gilbane Boston entitled Open Source CMS Powwow, as the Plone representative. Others on the panel will include Mitch Pirtle, the founder of Joomla, Jay Batson, a co-founder of Acquia, and Ian Howells, the CMO

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-23 Thread Matt Hamilton
Scott, This is an amazing panel discussion. There was meant to be something similar at IMS this year, but it got dropped, which was a shame. I'm still not entirely sure the organisers themselves 'get' Open Source. Having a quick look at the OSS vendors/projects listed for IMS there will

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-23 Thread Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.]
Hi Scott, I wanted to make sure we linked up at Gilbane; maybe we can discuss in more depth some pros/cons of Plone versus other systems and you can determine the best way to position that in the panel discussion without it being so us-versus-them. We have a small pedestal display area for

[Evangelism] Re: plone t-shirt

2009-11-23 Thread Massimo Azzolini
Hi, as I said, we're going to share the file for printing the t-shirt we ware at the ploneconf: http://bit.ly/6DF8Tj feel free to download them! massimo --- On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Massimo Azzolini massimo.azzol...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, for the last ploneconference, we created

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-23 Thread Scott Paley
This is very helpful - thanks! One can cite that the Royal Bank of Scotland, FBI, CIA and NASA are using Plone, and Plone is on the list of approved and secure platforms for use at NASA. I know one of the questions that will come up is examples of sites where the platform is used in the

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-23 Thread Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.]
Scott, Regarding the different approaches, I think it's worth mentioning and possibly getting some input/material from Chris Johnson at ifPeople on the concept of 'Social Sourcing'. He's made some presentations at Plone conferences on the topic and this is how the PloneGetPaid.com

Re: [Evangelism] Re: plone t-shirt

2009-11-23 Thread Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.]
Massimo, You can see who is at this mostly commercially-dominated CMS conference that has been held for the past 7-8 years here: http://gilbaneboston.com/exhibitors_sponsors.html I think you'd be right in thinking that the typical vendor will either be wearing branded polo or oxford shirts

Re: [Evangelism] Re: plone t-shirt

2009-11-23 Thread Massimo Azzolini
I personally don't know the two conferences you're talking about, but for sure this kind of t-shirt has been thought as a joke/funny thing to be used in a very plone-centric environment. So it can be used in a easy-env. So, for sure, to the bigE-guys it would appear out of context. btw, what do

Re: [Board] Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-23 Thread Matt Hamilton
Scott, Can I please ask you to try and record the audio of the panel discussion. Even if they are doing an official recording, it would be good to get a copy just recorded from laptop/iPhone. -Matt On 23 Nov 2009, at 07:39 PM, Scott Paley sc...@abstractedge.com wrote: This is very

Re: [Evangelism] Re: plone t-shirt

2009-11-23 Thread Nate Aune
Thanks Massimo! These look great! Ken and Scott - do you think we should get some of these t-shirts printed out for Gilbane to hand out as prizes? http://www.redturtle.it/solutions/ploneshirt/plone-t-shirt-with-creative-commons-license/view?set_language=en We can also be wearing them so that as

Re: [Evangelism] plone t-shirt

2009-11-23 Thread ctxlken
Another thought on t-shirts (first of all, I'm not sure if we can have them printed and ready for conference in time, but if we can...): Give one away per hour to the first person each hour on the hour, who is at the conference and who Tweets about Plone and uses some special hashtag. -Ken

Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal

2009-11-23 Thread Dylan Jay
On 23/11/2009, at 11:17 PM, Matt Hamilton wrote: On 23 Nov 2009, at 08:07, Dylan Jay wrote: All great points, and agree with you... one point specifically I have been noticing recently... 8) The party line on Acquia is that what's good for Acquia and Dries is good for Drupal. I saw