Re: [Evangelism] Re: plone t-shirt

2009-11-23 Thread Nate Aune
Thanks Massimo! These look great!

Ken and Scott - do you think we should get some of these t-shirts
printed out for Gilbane to hand out as prizes?
http://www.redturtle.it/solutions/ploneshirt/plone-t-shirt-with-creative-commons-license/view?set_language=en

We can also be wearing them so that as people come to the booth, they
can clearly identify who can answer their questions about Plone.

I remember at the NTEN conference, people would come up and it wasn't
clear who was a Plone person and who wasn't, so they would kind of
lurk in the wings.

Nate

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Massimo Azzolini
 wrote:
> Hi,
> as I said, we're going to share the file for printing the t-shirt we ware at
> the ploneconf:
> http://bit.ly/6DF8Tj
> feel free to download them!
> massimo
> ---
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Massimo Azzolini
>  wrote:
>>
>> hi all,
>> for the last ploneconference, we created some t-shirts: "plone is cool" on
>> the front, some lines of code on the back.
>> if someone is interested in, we are thinking about sharing the files, so
>> that you can customize them with your own logo or whatever you want.
>> we'd like to use a creative common license and to put them somewhere.
>> irene, which did the work would like to know:
>>  - which format is better for you? we used adobe illustrator cs4, so any
>> previous version can be extracted
>>  - we have a unique big file with all the parts inside, is it better to
>> have separated files (we have five differente chunks of code)?
>> what do you think?
>> massimo
>> ---
>
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Re: [Evangelism] Re: plone t-shirt

2009-11-23 Thread Massimo Azzolini
I personally don't know the two conferences you're talking about, but for
sure this kind of t-shirt has been thought as a joke/funny thing to be used
in a very plone-centric environment.
So it can be used in a easy-env.

So, for sure, to the bigE-guys it would appear out of context.

btw, what do you think to, when you say "more enterprise"?
I had some IBMLotus or MS t-shirts and polo and they were very simple (one
color - white, yellow, black) with a little logo in the front-upper-left.
Looked better if it was done with coloured wires (don't know how to say in
english: probably the word is needlework) and not just printed.

bye

massimo


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.] <
ken.wase...@contextualcorp.com> wrote:

> Nate,
>
> Personally, I think these t-shirts would work well as prizes, but seem a
> bit weak as a marketing message for Plone, when standing/sitting in a booth
> next to more professional/commercial vendors such as Microsoft, Oracle and
> OpenText.  Instead of Plone coming off as a 'hacker-based volunteer
> project', I'm hoping it has more of a professional brand/feel to those we
> run into at Gilbane.
>
> At an NTEN conference, where I think things are going to be a bit less
> corporate and stuffy than Gilbane, but also where IT is a bit more
> open-source-oriented, I think it would be fine to wear the t-shirts at
> booths, but at Gilbane, I just think we need a bit more
> professional/corporate image at the booths, unless your going for the
> 'something different/hip/cool' angle, but I don't think that plays as well
> to the corporate IT folks.
>
> I think the attendees of Gilbane are more in the 'Enterprise with a big E'
> market, and if Plone seems like just a 'cool' tool/project, that isn't going
> to help it gain adopters and market share away from those considering
> RedDot, Vignette, Sharepoint, etc.
>
> Just my two (if redundant) cents.
> That said, I'd love to have some to give away in drawings/give-aways to
> people who drop off their business cards or who stay awhile to have serious
> conversations, etc.
>
>

massimo
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Re: [Evangelism] Re: plone t-shirt

2009-11-23 Thread Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.]

Massimo,

You can see who is at this mostly commercially-dominated CMS conference 
that has been held for the past 7-8 years here:

http://gilbaneboston.com/exhibitors_sponsors.html

I think you'd be right in thinking that the typical vendor will either 
be wearing branded polo or oxford shirts or will be business casual, 
possibly with a jacket on (say, for the SEO experts trying to market 
their services.)  Since it's in Boston in December, I suspect long 
sleeves could overcome polos on this one :)


-Ken


Massimo Azzolini wrote:
I personally don't know the two conferences you're talking about, but 
for sure this kind of t-shirt has been thought as a joke/funny thing 
to be used in a very plone-centric environment.

So it can be used in a easy-env.

So, for sure, to the bigE-guys it would appear out of context.

btw, what do you think to, when you say "more enterprise"?
I had some IBMLotus or MS t-shirts and polo and they were very simple 
(one color - white, yellow, black) with a little logo in the 
front-upper-left.
Looked better if it was done with coloured wires (don't know how to 
say in english: probably the word is needlework) and not just printed.


bye

massimo


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.] 
> wrote:


Nate,

Personally, I think these t-shirts would work well as prizes, but
seem a bit weak as a marketing message for Plone, when
standing/sitting in a booth next to more professional/commercial
vendors such as Microsoft, Oracle and OpenText.  Instead of Plone
coming off as a 'hacker-based volunteer project', I'm hoping it
has more of a professional brand/feel to those we run into at Gilbane.

At an NTEN conference, where I think things are going to be a bit
less corporate and stuffy than Gilbane, but also where IT is a bit
more open-source-oriented, I think it would be fine to wear the
t-shirts at booths, but at Gilbane, I just think we need a bit
more professional/corporate image at the booths, unless your going
for the 'something different/hip/cool' angle, but I don't think
that plays as well to the corporate IT folks.

I think the attendees of Gilbane are more in the 'Enterprise with
a big E' market, and if Plone seems like just a 'cool'
tool/project, that isn't going to help it gain adopters and market
share away from those considering RedDot, Vignette, Sharepoint, etc.

Just my two (if redundant) cents.
That said, I'd love to have some to give away in
drawings/give-aways to people who drop off their business cards or
who stay awhile to have serious conversations, etc.



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Re: [Evangelism] Re: plone t-shirt

2009-11-23 Thread Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.]

Nate,

Personally, I think these t-shirts would work well as prizes, but seem a 
bit weak as a marketing message for Plone, when standing/sitting in a 
booth next to more professional/commercial vendors such as Microsoft, 
Oracle and OpenText.  Instead of Plone coming off as a 'hacker-based 
volunteer project', I'm hoping it has more of a professional brand/feel 
to those we run into at Gilbane.


At an NTEN conference, where I think things are going to be a bit less 
corporate and stuffy than Gilbane, but also where IT is a bit more 
open-source-oriented, I think it would be fine to wear the t-shirts at 
booths, but at Gilbane, I just think we need a bit more 
professional/corporate image at the booths, unless your going for the 
'something different/hip/cool' angle, but I don't think that plays as 
well to the corporate IT folks.


I think the attendees of Gilbane are more in the 'Enterprise with a big 
E' market, and if Plone seems like just a 'cool' tool/project, that 
isn't going to help it gain adopters and market share away from those 
considering RedDot, Vignette, Sharepoint, etc.


Just my two (if redundant) cents. 

That said, I'd love to have some to give away in drawings/give-aways to 
people who drop off their business cards or who stay awhile to have 
serious conversations, etc.


-Ken



Nate Aune wrote:

Thanks Massimo! These look great!

Ken and Scott - do you think we should get some of these t-shirts
printed out for Gilbane to hand out as prizes?
http://www.redturtle.it/solutions/ploneshirt/plone-t-shirt-with-creative-commons-license/view?set_language=en

We can also be wearing them so that as people come to the booth, they
can clearly identify who can answer their questions about Plone.

I remember at the NTEN conference, people would come up and it wasn't
clear who was a Plone person and who wasn't, so they would kind of
lurk in the wings.

Nate

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Massimo Azzolini
 wrote:
  

Hi,
as I said, we're going to share the file for printing the t-shirt we ware at
the ploneconf:
http://bit.ly/6DF8Tj
feel free to download them!
massimo
---


On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Massimo Azzolini
 wrote:


hi all,
for the last ploneconference, we created some t-shirts: "plone is cool" on
the front, some lines of code on the back.
if someone is interested in, we are thinking about sharing the files, so
that you can customize them with your own logo or whatever you want.
we'd like to use a creative common license and to put them somewhere.
irene, which did the work would like to know:
 - which format is better for you? we used adobe illustrator cs4, so any
previous version can be extracted
 - we have a unique big file with all the parts inside, is it better to
have separated files (we have five differente chunks of code)?
what do you think?
massimo
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