Stathis Papaioannou writes:
More generally, if a person has N OM's available to him at time t1 and kN at
time t2, does this mean he is k times as likely to find himself experiencing
t2 as t1? I suggest that this is not the right way to look at it. A person
only experiences one OM at a time,
Le Samedi 28 Mai 2005 07:21, Hal Finney a écrit :
It is the same with all the examples. Causing more experiences of
joy is better than causing more experiences of sadness. Even with
the one person who lives from day to day, it still applies. He is not
subjectively aware of his measure
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To summarize, logic is not a property of universes. It is a tool that
our minds use to understand the world, including possible
Hal Finney writes:
Stathis Papaioannou writes:
More generally, if a person has N OM's available to him at time t1 and
kN at
time t2, does this mean he is k times as likely to find himself
experiencing
t2 as t1? I suggest that this is not the right way to look at it. A
person
only
Le 27-mai-05, à 20:19, Hal Finney a écrit :
Brent Meeker writes:
I doubt that the concept of logically possible has any absolute
meaning. It
is relative to which axioms and predicates are assumed.
I agree but that is the reason why if we want to talk *about* or to
find measure *on*
Le 28-mai-05, à 14:32, Saibal Mitra a écrit :
I'm actually still with the ASSA. I agree that if there is no
cul-de-sac,
you can always redefine an observer moment by including the
information that
he has survived a suicide experiment. But I would consider that
observer
moment to have a
Le 22-mai-05, à 17:03, Stathis Papaioannou wrote (in part):
The response of those who think that consciousness is nothing special
to the above is that it is not surprising that there is a difference
between a description of an object and the object itself, and that
what I have called
Hal:
To summarize, logic is not a property of universes. It is a
tool that our minds use to understand the world, including
possible universes.
We may fail to think clearly or consistently or logically
about what can and cannot exist, but that doesn't change the
world out there.
Brent: I doubt that the concept of logically possible has any
absolute meaning. It is relative to which axioms and
predicates are assumed.
That's rather the million-dollar question, isn't it? But isn't the
multiverse limited in what axioms or predicates can be assumed? For
instance,
Hi Jonathan,
Should we not expect Platonia to be Complete?
Stephen
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Brent: I doubt that the
Stephen: Should we not expect Platonia to be Complete?
I'd like to think that it should not be (by Godel?); or that it is not
completely self-computable in finite meta-time. Or some such. But that's
more of a faith than a theory.
Jonathan Colvin
Brent: I doubt that the concept of
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