John,
You made excellent points, which I'm happy to
reply to ..
John M wrote:
--- James N Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
JR:
...
Make it easier -- a coma patient, inert for decades,
re-wakes alone in
a room, registers its situation and in an instant -
dies. Would that
moment qualify
Bruno Marchal wrote:
OK. Now, if you accept, if only just for the sake of the argument, the
mechanist hypothesis, then you will see there could be an explanation
why you feel necessary to postulate such a personal God. But then I
must agree this explanation is more coherent with
Tom Caylor wrote:
So the solution to the problem of evil *starts* with the theological
solution, as I said above, the solution to the separation between us
and who we really are meant to be. Since we were made in the image of
the personal God, then with the G(Logos) we can be brought into
Le 05-janv.-07, à 05:55, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit :
Bruno: If consciousness supervenes on all physical processes a case
can be made that matter could be relevant for consciousness. (I see
Peter Jones makes a similar remark).
Stathis: Except that you could say the same for the Maudlin
Tom,
It seems you are doing to the arithmetical hypostases what Augustin did
to Plotinus's hypostases, including a relation between the three
primary hypostases and trinity (criticized by many scholars, note).
Roughly speaking, I can agree, except that I cannot put any singular
name in a
Le 04-janv.-07, à 16:37, James N Rose a écrit :
It is -not- complex or human consciousness -- which emerges later.
But it is the primal foundation-presence and qualia on which
emerged forms of consciousness rely - in order for those complex forms
to exist, as they do.
I agree. (if I
Le 04-janv.-07, à 22:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
I am not sure what Hans Moravec's physical mechanism would be for
the 'teddy bear' example of panpsychism? I have read Mind Children and
Robot thoroughly, am cluless, regarding why Moravec should agree with
Spinoza.
Me too.
Bruno
Tom Caylor wrote:
So the solution to the problem of evil *starts* with the theological
solution, as I said above, the solution to the separation between us
and who we really are meant to be. Since we were made in the image of
the personal God, then with the G(Logos) we can be brought
Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
Tom Caylor wrote:
So the solution to the problem of evil *starts* with the theological
solution, as I said above, the solution to the separation between us
and who we really are meant to be. Since we were made in the image of
the personal God, then with the
Brent: 'However, all that is needed for the arguments that appear on
this list is to recreate a rough, functioning copy of the body plus a
detailed reproduction of memory and a brain that functioned
approximately the same. That much might not be too hard. After all, as
Stathis points out,
Bruno, Stathis, Brent, Peter,Brent, Tom, Hal
and others,
I have to be very impertinent here and try to draw your attention to
something you are just not getting.
There is NO ultimate answer to the meaning of life, the universe and
everything except that IT IS, and you are here to take part
Mark Peaty wrote:
Brent: 'However, all that is needed for the arguments that appear on
this list is to recreate a rough, functioning copy of the body plus a
detailed reproduction of memory and a brain that functioned
approximately the same. That much might not be too hard. After all, as
Mark Peaty wrote:
Bruno, Stathis, Brent, Peter,Brent, Tom, Hal and others,
I have to be very impertinent here and try to draw your attention to
something you are just not getting.
There is NO ultimate answer to the meaning of life, the universe and
everything except that IT IS, and you are
Bruno Marchal wrote:
I will take a look once I get enough time. It seems you belong to the
ASSA group, that is you accept some form of bayesianism for fundamental
probability question. Hope you will wake them up ...
(ASSA = absolute self-sampling assumption). You should read Nick
Bostrom and
Tom Caylor wrote:
Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
Tom Caylor wrote:
So the solution to the problem of evil *starts* with the theological
solution, as I said above, the solution to the separation between us
and who we really are meant to be. Since we were made in the image of
the
Bruno Marchal writes:
Bruno: If consciousness supervenes on all physical processes a case
can be made that matter could be relevant for consciousness. (I see
Peter Jones makes a similar remark).
Stathis: Except that you could say the same for the Maudlin example,
in which it is
Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
Tom Caylor wrote:
So the solution to the problem of evil *starts* with the theological
solution, as I said above, the solution to the separation between us
and who we really are meant to be. Since we were made in the image of
the personal God, then
Mark Peaty writes:
Brent: 'However, all that is needed for the arguments that appear on this list
is to recreate a rough, functioning copy of the body plus a detailed
reproduction of memory and a brain that functioned approximately the same.
That much might not be too hard. After all, as
Thanks for this Peter: I am still chewing on this, with a view to
ultimate digestion.
I do get a certain kind of Angels and pinheads impression about some of
it though. Hopefully that is just an illusion! :-)
Regards
Mark Peaty CDES
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.arach.net.au/~mpeaty/
SP: 'So given months or years, you really are like a car in which every
single component has been replaced, the only remaining property of the
original car being the design'
MP: Yes, indeed. For the word design here, I prefer to use 'structure',
with the proviso that the structure/s we are
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