Bruno et al.:
I don't feel comfortable with the view reality *OF* something. Reality IMO
is the
unfathomable existence (whatever that may be) and *WE - machines, mind,* you
name it are having access to portions that we interpret (realize?) in ways *we
can.*
This portion (part, view, ensemble,
On 25 Dec 2008, at 08:05, Abram Demski wrote:
Bruno,
I agree with Gunther about the two types of machine. The broader
machine is any system that can be logically described-- a system that
is governed by rules and has a definite description.
Then Church thesis entails it is not broader,
Bruno,
This conception can, I think, be indeed taken for granted by every
scientifically minded person.
Why ? It is an assumption too. What could we taken it for granted?
Yes, it is an assumption - that is why is wrote scientifically minded
- if you are in any way naturalist (and all the
Bruno,
But no weakening of comp based on nature is
known to escape the replicability. Even the non cloning theorem in QM
cannot be used to escape the UDA conclusion.
I already wanted to ask you on this one: you have said before on the
list that quantum-no cloning does not make a problem
On 26/12/2008, at 5:23 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 25 Dec 2008, at 08:05, Abram Demski wrote:
Bruno,
I agree with Gunther about the two types of machine. The broader
machine is any system that can be logically described-- a system that
is governed by rules and has a definite
Hi Kim,
On 25 Dec 2008, at 06:21, Kim Jones wrote:
A bit of an end-of-year ramble. For the multi-lingual, illogically-
minded, lateral thinkers:
My last post was a bit self-destructive ramble as I am able to do once
a time. But that's ok. (I hope I am not shocking).
It is rather kind of
Kim,
Right, that can't be done-- maybe such a system exists, but if so then
our rationality basically fails to apply to it. So as Gunther says,
the broader version of mechanism can be granted by every
scientifically minded person.
--Abram
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Kim Jones
The Day The Earth Stood Still - remake version in cinemas now
Just saw it - at the very first session at 9.30 AM.
This film is a whole lot better than the reviews make out and a whole
lot better than I expected.
Keanu Reeves is Keanu as usual and only acts with his left eyebrow,
but this
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