Kim, Right, that can't be done-- maybe such a system exists, but if so then our rationality basically fails to apply to it. So as Gunther says, the broader version of mechanism "can be granted by every scientifically minded person".
--Abram On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Kim Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 26/12/2008, at 5:23 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> >> On 25 Dec 2008, at 08:05, Abram Demski wrote: >> >>> >>> Bruno, >>> >>> I agree with Gunther about the two types of machine. The broader >>> machine is any system that can be logically described-- a system that >>> is governed by rules and has a definite description. >> >> Then Church thesis entails it is not broader, unless you mean that >> the rules are not effective. >> >> >> > > I might be missing something here, but somebody please give an example > of a system that is NOT governed by rules and possesses NO definite > description. > > cheers, > > K > > > > > > -- Abram Demski Public address: [email protected] Public archive: http://groups.google.com/group/abram-demski Private address: [email protected] --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
