Re: On the Sequencing of Observer Moments

2011-05-20 Thread Stephen Paul King
Hi Brent and Bruno, From: meekerdb Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 1:44 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: On the Sequencing of Observer Moments On 5/20/2011 3:54 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 18 May 2011, at 18:54, meekerdb wrote: On 5/18/2011 9:21 AM, Stephen Paul Ki

Re: On the Sequencing of Observer Moments

2011-05-20 Thread meekerdb
On 5/20/2011 3:59 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 18 May 2011, at 19:47, Stephen Paul King wrote: Hi Rex, A very good point! There must be a place for "false memories" in our modal logics. Indeed. and G* proves DBf. Lies and falsities abounds in the mind of the average Löbian machines. An

Re: On the Sequencing of Observer Moments

2011-05-20 Thread meekerdb
On 5/20/2011 3:54 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 18 May 2011, at 18:54, meekerdb wrote: On 5/18/2011 9:21 AM, Stephen Paul King wrote: Hi Brent, Interesting! If we follow this idea, that memory is not necessary for consciousness, then consciousness does not require a persistent structure t

Re: QM and MWI

2011-05-20 Thread Richard Ruquist
Raphael Bousso and Leonard Susskind appear to mix the concepts of the multiverse with the idea of wave collapse, e.g., "For example, we might choose S to be an electron and E to be the inanimate laboratory. The system's wave function collapses when the electron becomes entangled with some detector.

QM and MWI

2011-05-20 Thread ronaldheld
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1105/1105.3796v1.pdf. I am curious what people think of this, not just from the DM Point of view. Ronald -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To pos

Re: On the Sequencing of Observer Moments

2011-05-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 18 May 2011, at 19:47, Stephen Paul King wrote: Hi Rex, A very good point! There must be a place for "false memories" in our modal logics. Indeed. and G* proves DBf. Lies and falsities abounds in the mind of the average Löbian machines. Could these be included in the Bp & p wher

Re: On the Sequencing of Observer Moments

2011-05-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 18 May 2011, at 18:54, meekerdb wrote: On 5/18/2011 9:21 AM, Stephen Paul King wrote: Hi Brent, Interesting! If we follow this idea, that memory is not necessary for consciousness, then consciousness does not require a persistent structure to supervene upon. No? Onward! Stephen

Re: On the Sequencing of Observer Moments

2011-05-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
Dear Stephen, On 18 May 2011, at 18:10, Stephen Paul King wrote: I am interested in more of your thinking on several ideas that you mention in this post. 1) The 8 hypostases as N-OM; N = 1 - 8 I suggest you to read the sane04 paper where they are explained in the part "2", or the "P